IBE Epistane

Xapt3r2ooX

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hey im planning on running a cycle of epistane by next week when i come back from my vacation. Mainly i want to use it to reduce my gyno that i got from when i was a younger boy but of course i want the muscle gains as well. I was skinny but ended up getting overweight. I have excess chest fat and big puffy nipples. My chest looks decent with the nipples hard but when there regular my chest looks really bad and i hate it. Ive been working out for two years in hope for it to disappear but nothing. I heard the perfect dosage for gyno reduction is 20 mg everyday. How many pounds of muscle can i expect with this dosage? Also should i stack it with vitamin b6 and creatine? And for PCT should i run nolva 40/40/20/20? This will be my first steroid cycle and i only messed around with my hormones once if Jungle Warfare counts and i ran 6-oxo as my PCT for JW. All responses are welcome.

Thanks for the help :)
 
Xapt3r2ooX said:
hey im planning on running a cycle of epistane by next week when i come back from my vacation. Mainly i want to use it to reduce my gyno that i got from when i was a younger boy but of course i want the muscle gains as well. I was skinny but ended up getting overweight. I have excess chest fat and big puffy nipples. My chest looks decent with the nipples hard but when there regular my chest looks really bad and i hate it. Ive been working out for two years in hope for it to disappear but nothing. I heard the perfect dosage for gyno reduction is 20 mg everyday. How many pounds of muscle can i expect with this dosage? Also should i stack it with vitamin b6 and creatine? And for PCT should i run nolva 40/40/20/20? This will be my first steroid cycle and i only messed around with my hormones once if Jungle Warfare counts and i ran 6-oxo as my PCT for JW. All responses are welcome.

Thanks for the help :)
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This is a roid and your post is on the sup section. You will get more of a response in the right section. Also i believe its possible for the epi to make the gyno worse (remember i said possible not likely) and you may want to save the creatine for pct. Cant help with nolva sorry.
 
Big BAMA said:
Wow, If we only had a Steroid forum where people could go to ask these questions.
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Now i feel stupid because I say the same thing below you. Damn my typing skills!!!lol
 
Well with epi being anti estrogenic, gyno reduction has been reported and is very possible. But if that is what you are trying to gain from this cycle, as in your main goal I would try something else. If it is just a fat chest, and not true gyno, then yes epi will help you out for sure, gaining LBM will help reduce the look of a fat chest. All in all if you are wanting to use it for TRUE gyno, I am not sure I would go that route, but if it is a fat chest give it a true shot. Dial in your diet for a caloric deficit and get to work. Though if you go for the latter I would up the dose to 30mgs.

Adams
 
Truthfully, a lot of people do not know that EPI is a steroid. So to be fair, assumptions should cease, and a nice, "Hey man, maybe post this in another section, because..." would be better. ;)

Xapt, if you go to the IBE sub-forum and post it there, chances are a rep from IBE will fill you in with more exact details.
 
Iron Lungz said:
Truthfully, a lot of people do not know that EPI is a steroid. So to be fair, assumptions should cease, and a nice, "Hey man, maybe post this in another section, because..." would be better. ;)

Xapt, if you go to the IBE sub-forum and post it there, chances are a rep from IBE will fill you in with more exact details.
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Bro if they dont know its a roid should they really be asking how to cycle it???:think:
 
Are they asking questions? Yes they are. Which means that they are not blindly going about it. It's up to us to help this guy out; assumming he should know everything about it is wrong. There are a ton of people that have come here that started their cycles without asking questions first and are now screwed for doing so. So the OP atleast is showing some smarts about it.
See my point, bro?

pantherdude63 said:
Bro if they dont know its a roid should they really be asking how to cycle it???:think:
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Iron Lungz said:
Are they asking questions? Yes they are. Which means that they are not blindly going about it. It's up to us to help this guy out; assumming he should know everything about it is wrong. There are a ton of people that have come here that started their cycles without asking questions first and are now screwed for doing so. So the OP atleast is showing some smarts about it.
See my point, bro?
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I agree with you 100% but My view is that if he doesn't know we have a Steroid forum nor has he read that PH talk does not go on here. He probably hasn't done any research other than what he heard in the gym. I do believe we should help the new people and I try to but I also believe that they should read the stickies like I did before they go posting asking questions in the wrong forum.
 
But Bama, your post was condescending and was not helpful to him. That's my point.
Did you read all the rules and stickies before you posted here?
 
Sorry guys I didnt know you had a steroid forum. My fault. I should have posted it there. Yes I know Epistane is a steroid and not a PH or natural test booster. I said this was going to be my first steroid cycle on my first post. And i have done my research in forums and i Know how to run a cycle. Nah i really havent heard anything in my gym + the people there are stupid. They dont run any SERMs after using thier roids.

And to BAMA.... If you see my post count I am new to AM i just have an account created for a while but i never really check it. and i do read all the posts before i ask questions.... I ust didnt kno u had a section for steroids.

Sorry for the inconvenience guys.
 
I see the topic was moved already. Good. Well i read that 20 mgs is the sweet spot for gyno reduction but i would like to ask someone who has tried this product. Yeah creatine should be saved for PCT but would it be ok to run the creatine on cycle and for PCT? The gains would be better. Well i want the product to gain muscle of course and to reduce gyno. Does any one know of any picture logs with gyno reduction that used IBE epistane. I tried looking and couldnt find anything.

To DAdams: Yeah when i run the cycle of Epi i am cutting my calories and i am doing cardio 5 times a week to burn as much fat as i can. Yeah it is psuedo gyno. I just have some extra chest fat and puffy nipples but its still ugly. I would bump it mto 30 mg i have no problem with that but would the gyno reduction properties still work? BTW if epi does work for me will my nipples still be puffy?

Thanks guys
 
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol, nor any other steroid, should never be used for reduction of gynocemastia. Truthfully there is not even any science that backs up the claims by the various manufacturers. The closest thing to this were some older studies using a similar, non-methylated compound, which did in fact reduce gyno. There is no proof that the methylated version retained these beneficial properties.

That being said its a kick arsh steroid ;)
 
Use creatine only in PCT and, for me, for the better PCT use nolva or torem. I don't know the effects about gyno but i think your dosage is good for first 2 weeks, after you increase your epistane at 30mg.
With a good diet and WO some people gains 15-17 lb in one month
 
17 pounds in 1 month of Epi isn't likely. Maybe 17 fatass pounds.
 
zlatan8 said:
Use creatine only in PCT and, for me, for the better PCT use nolva or torem. I don't know the effects about gyno but i think your dosage is good for first 2 weeks, after you increase your epistane at 30mg.
With a good diet and WO some people gains 15-17 lb in one month
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bull. that is all.
 
i know 17 pounds isnt likely with epi. im not really that concern with the gains. i would say 8-9 pounds with good diet and excersise and creatine right
 
Just got off a six week cycle of EPI and I gained 8 pounds. Starting my third week of PCT I've lost 2 of thous 8 pounds. I trimmed up and lost body fat more then I gained lean muscle. It's a good cycle but 20mg was weak for me I didn't really get any kick in till I was at 40mg. I would listen to your body and if at 20mg you wanted to try 30mg I would do so.
 
mr2lizard said:
Just got off a six week cycle of EPI and I gained 8 pounds. Starting my third week of PCT I've lost 2 of thous 8 pounds. I trimmed up and lost body fat more then I gained lean muscle. It's a good cycle but 20mg was weak for me I didn't really get any kick in till I was at 40mg. I would listen to your body and if at 20mg you wanted to try 30mg I would do so.
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I am on Epi right now, i wasted the first 4 weeks at 30-40 mg range. 50 is my sweet spot and im not gaining nicely.
 
I agree, I was just under 200 pounds and didn't really get any kick till 40mg and last 2 weeks at 50mg, is when I really enjoyed the cycle. I wouldn't recommend this as a good gainer cycle but more of a cut/hardness cycle. I have always had a small puffy/bloat look just in general. Family trait and on this cycle it deff took it down a few notches. Usf what have you gained so far, I would like to see how much you retain after PCT. I have actually still been going up on my weights. Don't get me wrong thou I really liked my cycle and have pos things about it. I just must have had higher expectations then what was truer to reality.
 
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