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I see why prohormones got banned

Zero Tolerance

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I see a family member got freaking huge... He showed me a bottle of his "Beast Plex" that he got from his brother - who is in the Marines - who also got HUGE - but since shrank back down to normal size. He said "all the guys in the Marines are taking it".

Over the years I always heard it was a bad idea to stack two methylated compounds. BeastPlex (I know, not the only one) has THREE. So you have some pretty strong stuff here - basically:

1. Halodrol
2. Methylstenbolone
3. Max-LMG
4. Epistane

So we're just jumping the ladder here and instead of stacking TWO methylated compounds, we're stacking THREE! Why not?! The more, the merrier! Right?

Not only that, these guys (you'd think with the internet people would be better informed) were just told to take "Cycle Support" - that's it. No PCT.

Wait. Not only that, they were never told they can't drink alcohol...

So we have people from 18 and a little older taking three methylated substances, drinking alcohol (getting bombed) and doing no PCT. I can see why there are problems popping up and how the industry has been put under a microscope...

But the kid got massively huge. Gained 30 pounds in one month...

I know there are a fair bunch of these products out there. But why?
 
Honestly pro hormones like anything taken properly are completely safe. Not all are banned. Head over to mind and muscle there is extensive knowledge and pro hormones. Based on all sorts of science!
 
People die of the daily use of asprin, ciggs, and alcohol daily all by itself. Anything in moderation can be very beneficial but anything in excess can kill you. Even over comsuming water kills people every year. We should ban water too. :grouphug:
 
I don't believe prohormones should be banned either but these ridiculously strong versions were, in my opinion, what got them banned.
 
Zero Tolerance said:
Thanks. I'm as pissed off as everyone. I don't even use PHs anymore but I don't like how testosterone is public enemy number one.
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I am on the same page but the only way its going to change is if we get this guy as president
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McCrew530 said:
I am on the same page but the only way its going to change is if we get this guy as president
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LMAO

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion!!!! A great man, a great american. He will serve up a can of whoop ass if you cross him.
 
Zero Tolerance said:
I don't believe prohormones should be banned either but these ridiculously strong versions were, in my opinion, what got them banned.
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That may be true. But it is also a shame on the distribution or sup company's that allow it. They could have also tried and regulated the customer base a lil more than they did as well.
 
JayMaximus said:
Just because a few people cant take them responsibly doesnt mean they should be banned. If thats the case so should alcohol, or nicotine. Or cars, because some people drive them wrong and cause accidents. I agree some PHs are really strong, but if you take the right support you should be okay.
But I also have a friend in the military who uses PH and no support. Even after I told him. Oh well, its his body.
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Or grow some balls do a 5 weeker of test prop with hcg never loose your balls and get doubble the gains
 
I think they should make you read this page at Strong Supplement Shop and other info sites and then take a test before you can buy them haha. I would think the marines would get tested or something so they wouldnt be able to take them. ha. But yea we still have msten and dmz over at strong supplement shop.
 
Zero Tolerance said:
I see a family member got freaking huge... He showed me a bottle of his "Beast Plex" that he got from his brother - who is in the Marines - who also got HUGE - but since shrank back down to normal size. He said "all the guys in the Marines are taking it".

Over the years I always heard it was a bad idea to stack two methylated compounds. BeastPlex (I know, not the only one) has THREE. So you have some pretty strong stuff here - basically:

1. Halodrol
2. Methylstenbolone
3. Max-LMG
4. Epistane

So we're just jumping the ladder here and instead of stacking TWO methylated compounds, we're stacking THREE! Why not?! The more, the merrier! Right?

Not only that, these guys (you'd think with the internet people would be better informed) were just told to take "Cycle Support" - that's it. No PCT.

Wait. Not only that, they were never told they can't drink alcohol...

So we have people from 18 and a little older taking three methylated substances, drinking alcohol (getting bombed) and doing no PCT. I can see why there are problems popping up and how the industry has been put under a microscope...

But the kid got massively huge. Gained 30 pounds in one month...

I know there are a fair bunch of these products out there. But why?
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Correction, it has 4 methylated.compounds.
Max lmg is 18methyl=13b ethyl
 
NurseGray said:
Head over to mind and muscle there is extensive knowledge and pro hormones. Based on all sorts of science!
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Why? Cause we're all a bunch of idiots that just makes shiit up?
One can't learn extensively about androgenic hormones based off "all sorts of science" here?
 
The ban hasn't affected me here in the UK as its legal to use them and buy them, also injectable a are legal... Just not able to purchase (bit weird I know)

But it's like anything, if people abuse it and get seriously ill or die then it's going to raise awareness and the easiest thing to do is ban it... Kind of like DMAA, if people were actually sensible and careful things like prohormones can be used safely, same as injectable a and even DMAA. I still use DMAA now and again, I so far have had no side effects or damage because I'm not stupid. Just think about all the people taking pre workouts when they had DMAA in them.... Yet only a few decided to ruin it for others by not knowing what it did and what abuse is.

Alcohol, cigarettes, cigars, all of that is deadly if abused enough.
 
Ok being young and stupid happens to all of us at some point. If my marines wanted to do something like that I wish they would just ask me. A Corpsman would at least educate them. Otherwise it's Doc I can't get it up.......
 
Volvo140G said:
LMAO President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion!!!! A great man, a great american. He will serve up a can of whoop ass if you cross him.
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welcome to Costco, I love you
 
I have friends in the marines who cycle, use their AI's, SERMs for PCTs, etc.. do their research... Knowledge is very accessible nowadays.
 
jbryand101b said:
Why? Cause we're all a bunch of idiots that just makes shiit up? One can't learn extensively about androgenic hormones based off "all sorts of science" here?
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I guess you took that wrong
 
Rhadam said:
*looks around for science*
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this isn't meant to be a battle. I was just trying to give some advice to someone looking for it
 
Zero Tolerance said:
I don't believe prohormones should be banned either but these ridiculously strong versions were, in my opinion, what got them banned.
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Without seeing the mg's and breakdown of "Beast plex", you can't exactly compare 1 capsule that has 3 compounds in it to stacking 3 separate methylated PHs.

That said, the government would have you believe this ban is solving problems. Except, as usual in the drug war, it's a problem they themselves created. If test, deca, and dbol were legal (and they were until 1990), do you think anyone would have bothered digging through ancient papers to find, manufacture, and sell "superdrol" or some other dubious anabolic that was accidently discovered 50 years ago?

Nope. We'd all have never heard of any of these "PHs".

So the government created the problem and then wants to take credit for fixing it. What a joke.
 
NurseGray said:
Honestly pro hormones like anything taken properly are completely safe. Not all are banned. Head over to mind and muscle there is extensive knowledge and pro hormones. Based on all sorts of science!
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R1187 said:
Without seeing the mg's and breakdown of "Beast plex", you can't exactly compare 1 capsule that has 3 compounds in it to stacking 3 separate methylated PHs.

That said, the government would have you believe this ban is solving problems. Except, as usual in the drug war, it's a problem they themselves created. If test, deca, and dbol were legal (and they were until 1990), do you think anyone would have bothered digging through ancient papers to find, manufacture, and sell "superdrol" or some other dubious anabolic that was accidently discovered 50 years ago?

Nope. We'd all have never heard of any of these "PHs".

So the government created the problem and then wants to take credit for fixing it. What a joke.
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This.
 
You guys are silly. Thanks for all the love AM fam
 
Your thread makes no sense. Kid took juice, got huge. Did I miss something? Sounds like a successful run.

Now, the rest of it..
kid stupid enough to follow others like a monkey? Not steroids fault.
kid too stupid to follow cycle with proper pct? Not steroids fault.
kid too stupid to research what he put in his own body? Not steroids fault
kid too stupid to know how to keep gains after cycle? Not steroids fault
kid too stupid to know he was on something if he gained a pound a day for a month straight and still not research? Not steroids fault.


In summary, I cannot see how your brother did not get banned? Thanks for trying to blame steroids on his ignorance.
 
I like how people think that 16 year olds have the maturity and intelligence of adults. They don't. And it's funny how as soon as people grow up they want to hold kids accountable for things they themselves weren't accountable for.

Am i saying that young adults should be held blameless? No. But let's be realistic here. A 16 year old wanting to get an edge in football is going to hear about a magic pill and take it. They will assume that anything produced should be safe. It's not heroine or crack, it's a pill from a bottle that has a legit label on it. How could it be harmful?

As someone who works with high school and college athletes i see this frequently.
 
i never heard ANY talk of adverse health consequences in the latest ban or the one in 04, or even the sd ban.
the supporters of the latest bill were the big herbal and nutraceutical companies. health had nothing to do with it. surely only the naive could believe that the government is concerned with their health or well being. i want to laugh just thinking about it.
 
you may smoke pot get lazy and dumb, but you may not take steroids and be healthy and strong. bad citizens
 
protrester said:
i never heard ANY talk of adverse health consequences in the latest ban or the one in 04, or even the sd ban.
the supporters of the latest bill were the big herbal and nutraceutical companies. health had nothing to do with it. surely only the naive could believe that the government is concerned with their health or well being. i want to laugh just thinking about it.
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SD was suposedly linked to cancer. There has also been numerous people suposedly die from cardiac arrest and liver failure or they get jaundice... you need to do a bit more research. Sorry about spelling I'm in my phone
 
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