I need some info plz.....Guys on Depression meds, what are you taking?

[Mr.50]

My mood is much worse when I drink nowadays. It sucks that he drinks with his meds. I personally feel that it does effect the efficacy of the meds but of course sometime I do it. Whenever I do I really guage myself and still regret it often. The next day I usually feel really depressed 9even if not hungover) as alcohol is a depressant. Remember he may be drinking because he is depressed or he may be more depressed because he is drinking. I know its tough but try to get him to stop (I am sure you have already tried). If he won't though remember all of this info for yourself in case you have a time period in your life that you are depressed and also your relationship with alcohol.


Mr.50

 

[kwyckemynd00]

His skull is a anti-reason bomb shelter that prohibits him from taking or giving an form of good advice. I love the guy, he's a hard worker and would give anything for his wife and kids, but he's a jackass unfortunately.

He drinks because he's an alcoholic. I think that has more to do with his depression that his depression does with alcoholism.

Bummer, really.

 

[DR.D]

Zoloft...my dad takes that. I'm starting to think he needs a gram a day rofl: he gets horrible! turns into an asshole, too).

Does drinking really effect the efficacy of the drug? I mean, it says not to drink while on zoloft, and he takes his pills with a beer To make a long story short, it doesn't seem to be helping him too much and I think it's from the drinking. is it the drinking or does he just need a higher dose???

It's hard to say bud, I personally do good with a few drinks every night. Makes me easier to get along with and more relaxed, but I do know people like your dad that take it too far. Maybe for alcoholics it has the opposite effect at some point. I know guys that get mean and start **** when they get drunk too, the worst kind of drinkers, they can't even stand up straight, but they wanna talk big **** too. Sorry about your dad. I'd guess that he should increase his dose on the zoloft. He may need something different too like a benzo. Xanax for example. There are so many drugs available, just keep trying them till you find one that works, that's what it takes. Just trial and error. Like M50 said, drinking probably does hurt efficacy, the PDR suggests that it will.

 

[jjjd]

it's been said that alcohol is the poor man's anti-depressant.

works for many. goes horribly wrong for others

 

[kwyckemynd00]

It's hard to say bud, I personally do good with a few drinks every night. Makes me easier to get along with and more relaxed, but I do know people like your dad that take it too far. Maybe for alcoholics it has the opposite effect at some point. I know guys that get mean and start **** when they get drunk too, the worst kind of drinkers, they can't even stand up straight, but they wanna talk big **** too. Sorry about your dad. I'd guess that he should increase his dose on the zoloft. He may need something different too like a benzo. Xanax for example. There are so many drugs available, just keep trying them till you find one that works, that's what it takes. Just trial and error. Like M50 said, drinking probably does hurt efficacy, the PDR suggests that it will.

he's not a total asshole...he's just acts like a kid. he doesn't get all drunk either, he just won't stop drinking beer...

however, i believe he's be much better off just smoking pot that drinking. IMHO, he should get stoned and take his zoloft with water from now on

thx for the reply!

 

[kwyckemynd00]

it's been said that alcohol is the poor man's anti-depressant.

works for many. goes horribly wrong for others

I rearranged the above "saying for you"

"goes horribly wrong for many, works for others"

he, he, he

 

[MF210]

Amphetamines are superior for deppression IMO over serotonergic drugs. Norepinephrine is the neurochemical that activates you when depressed. Dopamine enhances intrest and exploratory activity. Serotonin is a mellowing substance. Even drugs like Effector and Serzone, which have mixed activity, were to mellowing for me. There are some new SNEI's out there now I think that would work great. I have also tried every tricyclic too, they're not a good solution either. Wellbuterin is an amphetamine derivative, but it's cardiotoxic and depersonalizing, at least for me. There are much cleaner sympathomimetics out there. Ask your doc for Dexedrine, Adderal, Adipex, Prelu-2, Tenuate or Pemoline. The effectiveness of each of these is that order. This class of drug also has good residual. The longer you take it, the more likely the benefit is to stick and be permenant when you stop. Otherwise, pray and never give up, no matter what.

Question for the doc: I was just wondering what you think of adderal over ritalin? I currently take ritalin for ADD problems. It works great for concentration, alertness, and depression, but may consider adderal if it works better.

 

[Knowbull]

Actually, if ritalin is working for you, why switch? As far as antidepressants the greatest one is called trimethoxyphenethylamine at a dose of 500 mgs it will work for years after a single dose, now thats what I call effective! There are some minor sides though.

 

[DR.D]

Question for the doc: I was just wondering what you think of adderal over ritalin? I currently take ritalin for ADD problems. It works great for concentration, alertness, and depression, but may consider adderal if it works better.

The only prob w/ Ritilan is that it made me wired. Adderall is more soothing and much cleaner and potent. Also, Ritilan played out at about the 3month mark. It just stopped working, but Adderall keeps going year after year.

Knowbull, your suggesting mescaline! It has it's place for sure, but I think he's looking for a daily med.

 

[Knowbull]

I think that the safest OTC is Prozac at 10mgs a day for 90 days or so, the older you get the less you want to play around with brain chemistry IMO. Short term use is the way to go the brain usually always wants to fix itself, and it will if you allow it

 

[OSPdoug]

Over the course of the last ten years I have suffered from and been treated for depression and anxiety with marginal effectiveness. I have taken paxil, remeron, buspar, wellbutrin and prosac. I began researching nootropics and mood enhancing supplements recently and I began taking choline and pericetam about a month ago. These two supplements literally gave me a new lease on life. All of my symptoms have virtually disappeared and I quit taking my antidepressants about three weeks ago. I also don't feel sedated and jaded like I did on antidepressants either. Choline and pericetam may not work as well for others as it did for me, however I would reccomend everybody to do their own research and experimentation on natural remedies instead of leaving your fate in the hands of the shrinks and pharmaceutical companies. Natural remedies are cheaper and safer. Just my two cents.

 

[DR.D]

...however I would reccomend everybody to do their own research and experimentation on natural remedies instead of leaving your fate in the hands of the shrinks and pharmaceutical companies. Natural remedies are cheaper and safer. Just my two cents.

Amen brother! Don't count on any doc to cure you, they may or may not help, but it's basically up to you to figure it out.

 

[Mr.50]

OSPDoug,

What antidepressant were you on before you started the nootropics?

Mr.50

Over the course of the last ten years I have suffered from and been treated for depression and anxiety with marginal effectiveness. I have taken paxil, remeron, buspar, wellbutrin and prosac. I began researching nootropics and mood enhancing supplements recently and I began taking choline and pericetam about a month ago. These two supplements literally gave me a new lease on life. All of my symptoms have virtually disappeared and I quit taking my antidepressants about three weeks ago. I also don't feel sedated and jaded like I did on antidepressants either. Choline and pericetam may not work as well for others as it did for me, however I would reccomend everybody to do their own research and experimentation on natural remedies instead of leaving your fate in the hands of the shrinks and pharmaceutical companies. Natural remedies are cheaper and safer. Just my two cents.