Hydrolyzed Collagen

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I received these protein liquid enhancer drops today. Per serving, there is 20 grams of protein. Here is the label though:

Proprietary Protein Matrix (Hydrolyzed Collagen and Whey Protein Isolate), Purified Water, Malic Acid, Natural Flavors, Propylene Glycol (to preserve freshness), Sucralose, L-Tryptophan, Potassium Sorbate (to preserve freshness), Sodium Benzoate (to preserve freshness), FD&C Red #40 and FD&C Blue #1.

From what I have read, hydrolyzed collagen is made up of a couple of different amino acids. My question essentially is, is this product really 20 grams of protein per serving or is it spiked and less than that?
 
AntM1564 said:
I received these protein liquid enhancer drops today. Per serving, there is 20 grams of protein. Here is the label though:

Proprietary Protein Matrix (Hydrolyzed Collagen and Whey Protein Isolate), Purified Water, Malic Acid, Natural Flavors, Propylene Glycol (to preserve freshness), Sucralose, L-Tryptophan, Potassium Sorbate (to preserve freshness), Sodium Benzoate (to preserve freshness), FD&C Red #40 and FD&C Blue #1.

From what I have read, hydrolyzed collagen is made up of a couple of different amino acids. My question essentially is, is this product really 20 grams of protein per serving or is it spiked and less than that?
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I don't trust anything that says "Proprietary blend". That means there could be any ratio of the ingredients listed. That's why they're listed in aggregate.
Collagen protein has a very poor biological value. Biological value is a somewhat outdated term, though. The protein digestibility corrected amino acid score is more trustworthy. Even then it still sucks.

If you're thinking of using the collagen for joint/connector repair, the human body is generally pretty good at synthesizing it. I know that some studies showed the coenzyme Q 10 aided in that synthesis.

Not sure why it's hydrolyzed, either. That simply means some of the peptide bonds have been broken with water. I can see that being a plus for a post workout why, but not sure why you'd need collagen that quickly.

Forgive me if you know everything I've just said. I see you're far from a newb :-)
 
I wouldn't consider it 20 grams of protein personally, as collagen is an incomplete protein if I recall.

Edit: Pretty much what Synapsis said in his thread above ;)
 
I can't say that I would try this. I saw it online and really did not impress me.
 
Very incomplete. Gelatin protein is probably the only protein with a worse amino acid profile (for humans).
 
Misfit28 said:
I wouldn't consider it 20 grams of protein personally, as collagen is an incomplete protein if I recall.

Edit: Pretty much what Synapsis said in his thread above ;)
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Its amino acid profile is so poor that the protein itself contains no essential amino acids, though threonine is required for collagen synthesis.
 
GreekTheBrick said:
The great debate man, is a calorie a calorie? Since a protein is not a protein and a fat is not a fat and a carb is not a carb then a calorie is NOT a calorie IMO
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One gram of hydrolyzed collagen is still 4 calories, its amino acid profile notwithstanding...
 
GreekTheBrick said:
The great debate man, is a calorie a calorie? Since a protein is not a protein and a fat is not a fat and a carb is not a carb then a calorie is NOT a calorie IMO
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Mind blown
 
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