Conan looks turrible
I’m starting a true cutting cycle today. I am ready to lean out some - I need a better spot to grow from than 25% bf.
8 weeks
-OL’s 11kt @ 2 full pumps/day divided
-Var 20mg/day
-S23 15mg/day last 6 weeks
-Toremifene 30mg/day
-Boladiol 4-8mg preWO whenever I feel I need an androgen/estrogen bump
Muscle Gelz Androhard (estered androsterone & epiandro) perhaps as well if I want more DHT power. Clen could get incorporated, as could any dry oral at the end, but the plan is to stay mild for now - fat loss with strength retention is the goal, and all 3 compounds directly support that. Bloods will be pulled at the end to see how much Torem can help maintain LH, if at all, while on.
Sweet, looking forward to your progress. I have been thinking about S23 lately too.

Mmmmmm cheeeeeesecake!!S23 is allegedly the most suppressive SARM there is, and the supreme cutter.
This is my 4th day on the vertical diet, & only deviation has been Jason’s Deli salad bar for dinner Wednesday. Last night we saw Infinity Wars (which is the best Marvel movie ever btw) and I didn’t have trouble passing on the deep-fried cheesecake chimi w/ berry sauce & cream cheese frosting my gf had ordered - that’s how I know I’m ready to do this![]()
Mmmmmm cheeeeeesecake!!
Nice, that is where I am right now too. Just keep doing the right things avoid the wrong and progress happens...
What are the specifics of the vertical diet?
Awesome, was there some of the strongman group there too or just the PL guys? They both have their big group mornings Saturdays but sometimes Sundays some guys will come in either if they missed the Saturday or just want more. With all the shît they have there it's pretty damn easy to spend too much time there lol. Good place, I miss it. Its too bad Eric, Tim and some of the other high level Strongman guys left.

Stan Efferding’s steak & rice protocol.!
Yeah both groups were going, plus the general machine area was reasonably poppin too, so it was quite the environment for a bit! I wanted to jump in on the power crew’s cambered bar chain squats in between the event work, but I’ve only got so much to give in a session and I knew it would tax me hard.
Yeah having a few heavyweight guys around can really raise the level of the environment. This guy Chris lifting with us hit a 400 stone to 54” with no tape or tacky, and the car deadlift I hit for a top single he pulled for 10 reps![]()
You lift?


Recovery for days!!!! Gotta love it!
Dude im really hungry right now and just reading that made it worse lolI’m looking forward to the progression! Been too long since I’ve been on any gas.
Fasted for about 22 hours - man that cuts my energy. Did manage a nice 25 min walk today at lunch. Dinner was 8oz top sirloin & 3oz teriyaki chicken breast fresh off the grill and then 3 different burritos from Tbell - 2k calories even, and it was all delicious ?
Man that sounds tasty. I have been craving TB lately. I havent had it in probably nearly a year and driving past one regularly has been giving me the itch lately. Any personal favorites or new menu items youve tried and thought were good? I'm thinking im gonna get myself some this weekend.
I fasted about the same but I am having a heck of a time getting it in but about to do a mini carb up. Can’t eat much else right now. Stomach is too tight from the preworkout and I need some easy calories.


4 pumps Androhard yesterday. Already seeing effects.
My stash is getting out of hand so I’m gonna have some fun with this run. Got enough orals to kill a bull elephant.
Is Androhard similar to what Sustain Alpha was or Dermatr3st, as a test base?
I hear ya.
Is Androhard similar to what Sustain Alpha was or Dermatr3st, as a test base?
I hear ya.
Androhard is basically transdermal DHT if I remember correctly. Great for trying to cut as well as strength and performance.
Never liked Black Label Society til i saw them live. Great showAlso joints have been creaky last couple days so took 8mg Vitality Boladiol preWO for some aromatization and intensity. Between that and some Black Label Society I was really feeling the fire today!
So that's a cool dose.Also joints have been creaky last couple days so took 8mg Vitality Boladiol preWO for some aromatization and intensity. Between that and some Black Label Society I was really feeling the fire today!
Never liked Black Label Society til i saw them live. Great show
So that's a cool dose.
Looks like I need a few more bottles because the caps I got are 2mg each.
Does it work fast enough for preworkoout
SweetThey have a ton of material, some lousy and some is gold. Been A Long Time has always been a favorite deadlift song of mine:
https://youtu.be/2liryRs15uI
I have the same Vitality Labs stuff - I specifically bought it as a preWO; half life is supposed to be like 4 hours. Think like Mentabolan or oral Trest dosing. I’m not running it as a cycle.
Gf has started working with new coaches closer to us now that Chad doesn’t live in the area. It’s remote but they will still be more accessible to us.
Her split is much more of a bro split as far as movement organization (vs nearly full body every session) and it’s way more likely I could recover from it than what she was doing with Chad, so I will be trying to follow her structure for now. 5 days a week so that will be harder, but should keep me more active for this cut and honestly it looks fun (4 days based around the bench dead press squat and then bodybuilding accessories, plus a 5th events only day).
Excited!
That sounds like a good workout.