Howdy, first post + Test supps

J-Test

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Hey all, J-Test from Florida here. Been lurking on this board for a month now when I stumbled across M-Test in my quest for test improvement.

I'm currently taking Fadogia 600mg (cycled), TongKat 400mg, and Maca. Also using Agmatine and Boron as of recent. And cold showers in the AM, best free supplement so far.

I'm about "there" with respect to getting on TRT; due to lifestyle decisions [extreme substance abuse] I made in my 20s, I think I may have torched my Test. Last year 2022 I checked and it was 246. Some days I don't wake up with morning wood and feel like a shell of my former self. My responsibility, though.

Anyhoo, I took another blood test specific to Test and Free Test last Friday, so we'll see what comes back; definitely interested as I've been taking the Fadogia/LongJack stack for a bit now.

Trying to avoid TRT but I'm feeling it's inevitable. I feel like I have 'hormone belly', if that makes sense at all. Keto has been the only way I can make a dent in my body fat; I haven't made low-carb sustainable for me.

In the meanwhile - what are recommended anabolic supplements people trust here? M-Test has good reviews and seems like a solid all around. I saw another - Diesel Test - but it's out everywhere I've looked. I'm looking for max legal anabolic effect. I understand I may need to cycle whatever is recommended. Non-stimulant (ie no caffeine, no alcohol) is what I'm looking for. There are way too many supplements on Amazon, so I'm posting here for help.

My goal is to build muscle easier, more mental clarity, and beasty/caveman boost in the sack.

Long first post, and a little bit of everything going on shared; I feel 'understood' here based some of the posts I've read.

Any anabolic/testosterone upward sloping recommendations would be helpful, thank you in advance. If there are any suggestions as well as to how I can give back, please share!


Thanks,


J-Test
 
brother, have a look at APEX Arimahex, it's got real human data showing significant boost in test and DHT while keeping estrogen at a healthy level.
Also Hyperion is great to get your free test up with a second to none Divinil extract.

www.apex-alchemy.com
 
If the supplements mentioned above dont work then probably nothing will, other then that I don't have any input on the supplements but remember, carbs don't make you fat, eating too much makes you fat. A keto diet won't work any better then a high carb diet if calories are equal. It's the law of thermodynamics. Keto is not a sustainable diet for the large majority of ppl and that's why ppl who keto tend to yoyo back and forth.

Substance abuse does have a negative effect on hormones and of course so does aging. With testosterone levels at 240 I have to guess that trt is going to become a must very soon. They make creams and patches if yiur trying to avoid needles.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
brother, have a look at APEX Arimahex, it's got real human data showing significant boost in test and DHT while keeping estrogen at a healthy level.
Also Hyperion is great to get your free test up with a second to none Divinil extract.

www.apex-alchemy.com
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Sounds good brother, I'm rolling with something off of here for sure. Looks good.

Questions:

1) Can the Arimahex be stacked with Hyperion and/or TRT? Or is it one or the other? I was about edit: to order both and figured I should ask first.

2) Does it/should it be cycled? I'm seeing a subscription option but if it needs to be cycled, I'd like to know that. Not seeing info on the website or Google. Edit: I found an "ask question feature" on the Apex website, wanted to get my order into to get it by Saturday.
Thanks again @
xR1pp3Rx
 
@Smont I think I should have a good response, I do respond to TongKat, Fadogia, Maca, etc.

Yeah, trying to avoid TRT but I agree; based on what I've researched I may as well get on and stay on. Needles don't bother me for the purpose of optimizing my health.

Thank you for the reply!
 
J-Test said:
Sounds good brother, I'm rolling with something off of here for sure. Looks good.

Questions:

1) Can the Arimahex be stacked with Hyperion and/or TRT? Or is it one or the other? I was about edit: to order both and figured I should ask first.

2) Does it/should it be cycled? I'm seeing a subscription option but if it needs to be cycled, I'd like to know that. Not seeing info on the website or Google. Edit: I found an "ask question feature" on the Apex website, wanted to get my order into to get it by Saturday.
Thanks again @
xR1pp3Rx
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yes they can be stacked and you can use them long term however it never hurts to take a break from time to time when using test boosters. also ... Hyperion is actually designed to be used with TRT in mind.
 
Tunza_Muscle said:
You're right. It's not on that level. It's high above that level. I defy anyone to take AX for three days and not feel 100 times more alpha.
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If I only had time to argue with trolls. I know far more about that product than you'll ever admit, and further, I was an OG tester of several DS launches including AX, TZ, and the real OG CRAZE... so blow.
maybe try to spam something other than AX in every post. admin dont like that chit.

love to see an assay on their divinil come anywhere close to our ultra pure high percentage extract. like I said ours is second to none.
 
+1for APEX supps
also, look into SNS and CEL for the best natural test-boosting supps. M Test, Anabolic Effect etc.
 
Tunza_Muscle said:
Not true. I also like Triazole, Cellucor P6, Nutrex T UP, Biotest Alpha Male. Knowing how to cycle them is the key. And in terms of telling me to "f off", you're safely positioned behind a computer.
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now i realize why you like AX so much.. enjoy your last generation supplements!
 
Ordered Arimahex and Hyperion yesterday; I'd already ran across Apex site in the last couple weeks but I didn't know what to make of the liquid vs the normal capsules I've been taking.

Looking forward to see what this brings. And funny enough, one of my broskis (the highest level of bro) hit me up yesterday asking me if I was still looking for a TRT doctor.. everything is falling into place.

One concern I didn't think of until after I ordered was facial acne with increased test, but I'll take the trade off and figure it out, hopefully it's not too gnarly.

Thanks for the suggestions - I'll let y'all know how it works out!


J-Test
 
J-Test said:
Hey all, J-Test from Florida here. Been lurking on this board for a month now when I stumbled across M-Test in my quest for test improvement.

I'm currently taking Fadogia 600mg (cycled), TongKat 400mg, and Maca. Also using Agmatine and Boron as of recent. And cold showers in the AM, best free supplement so far.

I'm about "there" with respect to getting on TRT; due to lifestyle decisions [extreme substance abuse] I made in my 20s, I think I may have torched my Test. Last year 2022 I checked and it was 246. Some days I don't wake up with morning wood and feel like a shell of my former self. My responsibility, though.

Anyhoo, I took another blood test specific to Test and Free Test last Friday, so we'll see what comes back; definitely interested as I've been taking the Fadogia/LongJack stack for a bit now.

Trying to avoid TRT but I'm feeling it's inevitable. I feel like I have 'hormone belly', if that makes sense at all. Keto has been the only way I can make a dent in my body fat; I haven't made low-carb sustainable for me.

In the meanwhile - what are recommended anabolic supplements people trust here? M-Test has good reviews and seems like a solid all around. I saw another - Diesel Test - but it's out everywhere I've looked. I'm looking for max legal anabolic effect. I understand I may need to cycle whatever is recommended. Non-stimulant (ie no caffeine, no alcohol) is what I'm looking for. There are way too many supplements on Amazon, so I'm posting here for help.

My goal is to build muscle easier, more mental clarity, and beasty/caveman boost in the sack.

Long first post, and a little bit of everything going on shared; I feel 'understood' here based some of the posts I've read.

Any anabolic/testosterone upward sloping recommendations would be helpful, thank you in advance. If there are any suggestions as well as to how I can give back, please share!

Thanks,

J-Test
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M-Test is a great option for helping increase both free and total natural testosterone levels. It has a ton of great feedback and has long been one of the most popular test boosters here on AM, and its one that I've used consistently for a long time and it has helped me a lot.

Cloma-Plex is a newer product and hasn't been out long enough to have a ton of feedback like M-Test, but the feedback that there is on it has been excellent. It is a great product for helping increase natural testosterone levels while also helping modulate estrogen and having natural anabolic properties to help gain lean muscle, strength, and a lot of people also report increases in positive mood and motivation on it.

Optimize-T is another great natural testosterone booster that has a lot of positive feedback. It is intentionally designed differently than M-Test in keeping in mind that some people like certain ingredients better while other people like and respond to others better.

Here are some links for anyone reading now or in the future that would like to read more information on these:

M-Test - Product link and write-up:

https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/optimize-t-120-veg-caps/

Cloma-Plex - Product link and write-up:

https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/m-test/

Cloma-Plex - Intro thread:

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Optimize-T - Product link and write-up:

https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/cloma-plex/
 
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