how did you decide it was time?

2k1s

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I've experimented for awhile with ph/ds(19-nor and epi) for a few years now. Never done more than one cycle in a year, never wanted to be huge and for some reason I couldn't keep myself motivated to keep going to the gym. Now I don't see myself stopping any time soon.

Reading this forum makes me want to do superdrol. I have no idea why I want to do it(read irrational desire), most of the time when I was doing research I said I wouldn't do it b/c I am not a big guy and the toxicity somewhat scares me. I'm 6 foot at 185 lbs but you would probably guess that I weigh 160. I'm planning on doing a 6 week cycle of h-drol in august, hopefully I'll get closer to 200 than I am right now.

I guess my question is how did those that have done superdrol decide to do it? Like at what point are you not a noob enough to do it? I have no idea if that makes any sense. I'm personally not planning on doing it any time soon but I bought a bottle of mastavol recently.

side question: are there any products similar to 19-nor anymore? I bought a few bottles of it around the time of the ban. I've found that my old stuff doesn't do anything anymore. But when I was on it I slept for like 14 hours a day, it was great. The last cycle I did of epi gave me insomnia to the point where I wondered if the gains were worth it.
 
When your natural gains slow down to a slow and painful crawl, that's when. And that doesn't happen when you're 6' 185.

If you dont want to be big and you aren't motivated enough to make any long-term progress, why the **** subject your body to this? Cycling again and again and staying under 200 pounds, that's stupid.
 
I get that. Admittedly I did my first cycle for all the wrong reasons, but it was somewhat successful because I had so much muscle memory. I just was wondering why people decide to do harsh cycles in general. or I guess just for people who don't compete.

When I was 18 I squatted 605 and weighed 240 lbs. I have no desire to be that big again but I also have no intentions of letting myself go again.
 
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