honest discussion about the drawbacks of SARMs

Ostarine shuts me down (20mg) mild gains at best no other sides
s4-not ever come on im not playing around with my vision just dumb
lgd- gave me chest pains had to stop and i her from a number or people hair loss very possible on it
cardarine- made my blood pressure great no noticeable changes in anything else though, not rebuying
MK- great for bulking, better hair, skin, more watery pump decent gains, bloat is real though


all in all, these new generation PED's arent very great but thats just my opinion
 
Ostarine shuts me down (20mg) mild gains at best no other sides
s4-not ever come on im not playing around with my vision just dumb
lgd- gave me chest pains had to stop and i her from a number or people hair loss very possible on it
cardarine- made my blood pressure great no noticeable changes in anything else though, not rebuying
MK- great for bulking, better hair, skin, more watery pump decent gains, bloat is real though


all in all, these new generation PED's arent very great but thats just my opinion

Gonna second this, LGD is the only one close to worthwhile, MK-677 is good for GH though it just messes with my cortisol so dropped that too.
 
Taking the discontinued Primeval Labs Tri-Sarm Ostarine 10mg, S4 (Ostarine) 10mg and LGD-4033 5mg, I'm 3 weeks into the cycle and had taken it a cycle earlier in the spring. I am in my mid 40's and here is what I am experiencing:

Pros:

1. During the first couple of weeks I get power and feel no burning pain when doing a set to failure. It is amazing to work out without the burning pain. I can be on the 14th rep and I can feel the muscles starting to fail but there is no burning pain. This happened in my first cycle as well. In my 3rd week I am feeling a bit of burning when deep into a set.

2. Gained some strength although not as much as I did in the first cycle when I also took creatine

3. Weight did not change in the first 3 weeks although the body feels a bit tighter around the waist which is good. Was hoping to loose some weight but I haven't changed my diet. I think that some fat has been replaced by muscle so I am keeping this point in the pros.

4. I am not experiencing hair loss, sex drive changes or even impaired vision.

5. Back pain from a herniated disk in my mid back has gone down to a negligible level. This is a big positive for me as I've been dealing with this pain for 10 years. It is at a low enough level to be able to live with and not have surgery. I found that this tri-sarm almost makes it go away.


Cons:

1. Lethargic, lazy, brain and body shuts down, all I want to do is sleep. Worth noting is that if I work up the nerve to get to the gym I feel pretty good in the workouts, not sleepy then. But by the time I get home at 6PM I can go crash for the whole night. And by 10am the next day I am sleepy again.

2. Others mentioned that they recoup faster, I haven't found that to be the case. I find that the tri-sarm helps with bones/joints but not with muscle pain. I pulled my right bicep in the first week of this cycle and it is still bothering me. I had hoped it would heal faster. I've been really careful with it so as to not make it worse and luckily I haven't damaged it even though I've started training arms and triceps. I do extended warm-ups on the arms, stretching and so on but I am disappointed that I haven't seen a quicker healing.


I think I will stop my cycle because of being sleepy and lethargic. I basically can't think at work and my weekends kinda go to waste. I think I'll get back on a creatine cycle and maybe take a tri-sarm occasionally with lower doses.
 
Taking the discontinued Primeval Labs Tri-Sarm Ostarine 10mg, S4 (Ostarine) 10mg and LGD-4033 5mg, I'm 3 weeks into the cycle and had taken it a cycle earlier in the spring. I am in my mid 40's and here is what I am experiencing:

Pros:

1. During the first couple of weeks I get power and feel no burning pain when doing a set to failure. It is amazing to work out without the burning pain. I can be on the 14th rep and I can feel the muscles starting to fail but there is no burning pain. This happened in my first cycle as well. In my 3rd week I am feeling a bit of burning when deep into a set.

2. Gained some strength although not as much as I did in the first cycle when I also took creatine

3. Weight did not change in the first 3 weeks although the body feels a bit tighter around the waist which is good. Was hoping to loose some weight but I haven't changed my diet. I think that some fat has been replaced by muscle so I am keeping this point in the pros.

4. I am not experiencing hair loss, sex drive changes or even impaired vision.

5. Back pain from a herniated disk in my mid back has gone down to a negligible level. This is a big positive for me as I've been dealing with this pain for 10 years. It is at a low enough level to be able to live with and not have surgery. I found that this tri-sarm almost makes it go away.


Cons:

1. Lethargic, lazy, brain and body shuts down, all I want to do is sleep. Worth noting is that if I work up the nerve to get to the gym I feel pretty good in the workouts, not sleepy then. But by the time I get home at 6PM I can go crash for the whole night. And by 10am the next day I am sleepy again.

2. Others mentioned that they recoup faster, I haven't found that to be the case. I find that the tri-sarm helps with bones/joints but not with muscle pain. I pulled my right bicep in the first week of this cycle and it is still bothering me. I had hoped it would heal faster. I've been really careful with it so as to not make it worse and luckily I haven't damaged it even though I've started training arms and triceps. I do extended warm-ups on the arms, stretching and so on but I am disappointed that I haven't seen a quicker healing.


I think I will stop my cycle because of being sleepy and lethargic. I basically can't think at work and my weekends kinda go to waste. I think I'll get back on a creatine cycle and maybe take a tri-sarm occasionally with lower doses.

What do you mean take occasionally? Are you running a pct after your cycle? These are not creatine, you can't just casually take them whenever you want to and expect no long term consequences.
 
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