Holding too much water from MK677

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Need some suggestions or advice. I'm currently taking a growth hormone based SARM and getting fantastic results from it! I'm eating clean and training hard, but my stomach is holding a lot of water :( Let me know anyone
 
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What is your dosage at and how long have you been on it?
 
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25 mg and it's been 8 weeks, I've been a lot and I mean a lot !!! And sleep like a bear, and I get freakin veiny like crazy. I'm able to hold a great physique with this bulk, just my stomach and upper thigh hold water and bloat
 
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25 mg and it's been 8 weeks, I've been a lot and I mean a lot !!! And sleep like a bear, and I get freakin veiny like crazy. I'm able to hold a great physique with this bulk, just my stomach and upper thigh hold water and bloat
Yeah, whenever I used 20 and 30 mg I retained a lot of water on the same areas. Diet and water manipulation didn't really help either. My only solution was to taper back to 10 mg where the bloat was minimal but the other benefits stayed appreciable. Hopefully your caps aren't 25 mg so you can lower the dose. If not, the water retention goes away within a week or so after you discontinue.
 
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As a personal question, were you able to achieve the same results and feeling with 10mg daily ??
 
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Cool cool yeah I was actually thinking dropping the dosage, just feared of losing the effects. But this bloat isn't worth it. Lastly, what time of the day do you take it ?? Before bed ??
 
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25 mg and it's been 8 weeks, I've been a lot and I mean a lot !!! And sleep like a bear, and I get freakin veiny like crazy. I'm able to hold a great physique with this bulk, just my stomach and upper thigh hold water and bloat
300-400 mg of androvar (epiandro) was the only thing that worked to get rid of the bloat, unfortunately my hair was falling out like crazy so i stopped but if you have no hair problems i would recomend trying a well dosed epiandro supplement
 
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i was taking 20 mg as well right before bed if i took a dose after a workout or early in the morning i ate like crazy which made me even more bloated.
 

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You can't eradicate the bloat. The bloat occurs via a very similar mechanism as Dnp.
 
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guys- late to this and please dont call me crazy, but doesnt the bloat will indicate increase in muscle size/strength? I read that a few places, if that is the case that is good. But why in the hell are some getting in the midsection? it doesnt seem to affect everyone as bad.

im taking a wild stab here, but could it be affecting glucose/insulin in some way?
 
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italianboi949 curious how much veggies you eat in a day this can attribute to it. You can try dandelion root caps as they have been known to help cheap and effective. Hope this help. Ill do a lil more digging from my notes when I get back home tonight.
 
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italianboi949 curious how much veggies you eat in a day this can attribute to it. You can try dandelion root caps as they have been known to help cheap and effective. Hope this help. Ill do a lil more digging from my notes when I get back home tonight.
how much on the d caps WAF ? good info bro
 
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Well I eat a lot of veggies and fiber, I'm going low carb high protein, almost Keto. But I eat a lot !!! And I can't control my appetite, 6000-8000 calories a day!!!! But everything is clean! But have an extended gut and bloat, but arms and legs look veiny as **** haha
 
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I didn't get any bloat from mk. Wonder if mine was bunk :/
 
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I didn't get any bloat from mk. Wonder if mine was bunk :/
not nes bro- thats whats weird. some say they have it some dont. some get it and it resides others have to reduce the intake. there has to be something that is causing one to get more bloat vs another WAF was looking into some info, he might have some
 
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Well I eat a lot of veggies and fiber, I'm going low carb high protein, almost Keto. But I eat a lot !!! And I can't control my appetite, 6000-8000 calories a day!!!! But everything is clean! But have an extended gut and bloat, but arms and legs look veiny as **** haha
ok as i said, im throwing darts here, but do you ever back load or front load on carbs?

if you do either, is the bloat more noticeable during those days ?
 
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Yes the moment I put in carbs I bloat, usually from starchy carbs. I don't know man, I might have to cut back on the dosage :/
 
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Yes the moment I put in carbs I bloat, usually from starchy carbs. I don't know man, I might have to cut back on the dosage :/
insulin - that bastard i knew it- ok how much- this is going to help, if you dont have it off hand, start the next day - what time you took it, the amount of mk- then how long until the carb was ingested and how much through out the day. i have a theory - and no im not batman, lol
 
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Yeah I didn't think arm would work cuz it's non hormonal. But I'll give it a shot. Mk677 is an amazing compound, just wish my body doesn't react like **** with it
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I've been on MK-677 (ghar1ne) for about 4 months now. The bloat went down considerably after about 6 weeks of steady 20mg/ed, and now that I've reduced it to 10mg/day, it's virtually non-existent.
 
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Well I eat a lot of veggies and fiber, I'm going low carb high protein, almost Keto. But I eat a lot !!! And I can't control my appetite, 6000-8000 calories a day!!!! But everything is clean! But have an extended gut and bloat, but arms and legs look veiny as **** haha
First I would cut back on your veggies as they will cause alot of bloat, some bloating will be reduced if they cooked not raw. Change out some of the carbs for different ones. Arimidex can hamper you gains but will reduce some bloating , personally id adjust your diet and see what exactly is bloating you and adjust from there and find out what the actual issue is rather than adding other compounds. Reducing you dosage should help but effectiveness wont be as good......6000-8000cals your pretty much going to bloat thats a lot of food especially if your really eat clean . Can you give an example of your daily intake. Were you on the same diet before MK-677 if so how was your bloat? Personally i've never had an issue even at 25mg, but everyone is different and you always need to find your sweet spot with anything your putting in your body be it nutrition or AAS etc.
 
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Yeah I didn't think arm would work cuz it's non hormonal. But I'll give it a shot. Mk677 is an amazing compound, just wish my body doesn't react like **** with it
Love hate relationship -_-
at least were getting somewhere
 
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First I would cut back on your veggies as they will cause alot of bloat, some bloating will be reduced if they cooked not raw. Change out some of the carbs for different ones. Arimidex can hamper you gains but will reduce some bloating , personally id adjust your diet and see what exactly is bloating you and adjust from there and find out what the actual issue is rather than adding other compounds. Reducing you dosage should help but effectiveness wont be as good......6000-8000cals your pretty much going to bloat thats a lot of food especially if your really eat clean . Can you give an example of your daily intake. Were you on the same diet before MK-677 if so how was your bloat? Personally i've never had an issue even at 25mg, but everyone is different and you always need to find your sweet spot with anything your putting in your body be it nutrition or AAS etc.
and now were moving along- nice info
 
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and now were moving along- nice info

Thanks, here trying to help. Another thing you can try is Taurine or Cranberry juice. I spoke to a few of my buddies who compete and they usually like a low dose of clen with it also. Clen is a touchy subject i know, so that's totally up to you if it's a viable source youd consider. Ill look around and ask a few other guys once they get back to me. Honestly try natural remedies and adjusting your diet is the safest way before add any compounds just IMHO. All to their own and best of luck.
 
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Thanks, here trying to help. Another thing you can try is Taurine. I spoke to a few of my buddies who compete and they usually like a low dose of clen with it also. Clen is a touchy subject i know, so that's totally up to you if it's a viable source youd consider. Ill look around and ask a few other guys once they get back to me. Honestly try natural remedies and adjusting your diet is the safest way before add any compounds just IMHO. All to their own and best of luck.
^^^Late for the discussion but I agree. I would be hesitant to use Adex for controlling bloating. It's drying out properties caused by estrogen elimination are more than likely not the same MOA of MK-677 which is causing the bloating in the first place. Plus estrogen modulation with a heavy duty AI is risky without evidence of elevated estrogen levels. I haven't had a lot of luck with diet manipulation, but then again, I didn't try that hard. I was bulking over the winter so I just owned it. Lol. Now that it is spring, I've tapered down the MK and began cutting the way I normally would. True, the effects are reduced some, but I still get what I want without major bloating. The dandelion root is an interesting suggestion.
 
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You guys have been a great help and I appreciate all of the support and help !!! My diet before the MK677 was 2800-3200 calories a day being Keto for my show prep in February. Now since I'm aiming to put on size, I'm like a garbage can just eating endlessly and sleeping like a bear !!! I'm eating Keto and very clean at 8000 calories because I know it would control my hunger a bit more since insulin is minimized. I fear of eating carbs because I know it will make me bloat even more and result to more calories at the end of the day. I've gained about 50 Ibs in the last 6 weeks being muscle, fat, and lots of water !!!! But I know if I took out the MK677 things will go back to normal. I just want to know if theirs light at the end of the tunnel for my body composition will be the same as it was before with the amount of food I'm eating or maybe hoping the hunger will finally go away since I'm on my 9th week on this compound. Thanks again you guys
 
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You guys have been a great help and I appreciate all of the support and help !!! My diet before the MK677 was 2800-3200 calories a day being Keto for my show prep in February. Now since I'm aiming to put on size, I'm like a garbage can just eating endlessly and sleeping like a bear !!! I'm eating Keto and very clean at 8000 calories because I know it would control my hunger a bit more since insulin is minimized. I fear of eating carbs because I know it will make me bloat even more and result to more calories at the end of the day. I've gained about 50 Ibs in the last 6 weeks being muscle, fat, and lots of water !!!! But I know if I took out the MK677 things will go back to normal. I just want to know if theirs light at the end of the tunnel for my body composition will be the same as it was before with the amount of food I'm eating or maybe hoping the hunger will finally go away since I'm on my 9th week on this compound. Thanks again you guys
yes there is a light, just make sure its not connected to a freight train (yes i stole that from Metallica!) meaning, not sticking with the hard work etc. Just keep a good log so if you decide to run this again, you will know how to adjust based on your bodies reactions.

Anything else, dont hesitate to ask and keep us posted bro
 

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You guys have been a great help and I appreciate all of the support and help !!! My diet before the MK677 was 2800-3200 calories a day being Keto for my show prep in February. Now since I'm aiming to put on size, I'm like a garbage can just eating endlessly and sleeping like a bear !!! I'm eating Keto and very clean at 8000 calories because I know it would control my hunger a bit more since insulin is minimized. I fear of eating carbs because I know it will make me bloat even more and result to more calories at the end of the day. I've gained about 50 Ibs in the last 6 weeks being muscle, fat, and lots of water !!!! But I know if I took out the MK677 things will go back to normal. I just want to know if theirs light at the end of the tunnel for my body composition will be the same as it was before with the amount of food I'm eating or maybe hoping the hunger will finally go away since I'm on my 9th week on this compound. Thanks again you guys
What brand are you using? I want what you're having lol
 
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What brand are you using? I want what you're having lol
do you work for the cia, fbi, nsa, nwo, abc, cbs, nbc, espn, golf network, tbn, tnn, sas, double "oo" agency or green peace
 

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I didn't get any bloat from mk. Wonder if mine was bunk :/
Everyone I see in real life taking it bloats in the midsection like crazy.. even with a 6 pack, turtle shell stomach type bloat.. From how i understand it, it is nearly impossible not to bloat on legit MK since it causes retention same as DNP.. you cant not bloat on dnp lol but I could have read wrong.
 
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Should I stop taking it then ?? What do you think ??
 
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Should I stop taking it then ?? What do you think ??
stick it out for a lot of people the bloat dissipates after a couple months, you could take my advice and add epiandro it cant hurt if hair loss is no issue.
summer is around the corner though so i dont take it anymore but i just finished a 3month run.
 
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I appreciate it man, I'll give it another few weeks and see how it plays out, thanks
 
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Everyone I see in real life taking it bloats in the midsection like crazy.. even with a 6 pack, turtle shell stomach type bloat.. From how i understand it, it is nearly impossible not to bloat on legit MK since it causes retention same as DNP.. you cant not bloat on dnp lol but I could have read wrong.
Damn. Might have to try it again then. Got it from a goelogical site.
 
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8,000 calories? Why are you even questioning where the bloat is coming from.
 

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