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HiTech and IGF-1

I would love for someone to get baseline IGF-1 levels done on this, and again 4 or 8 weeks into a run.. who wants to be a guinea pig??


Vaughn.. maybe we can compensate someone with some bottles to do this?? :D I'd love to see numbers..
 
criticalbench said:
I would love for someone to get baseline IGF-1 levels done on this, and again 4 or 8 weeks into a run.. who wants to be a guinea pig??


Vaughn.. maybe we can compensate someone with some bottles to do this?? :D I'd love to see numbers..
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I am doing this very thing

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user567 said:
I am doing this very thing

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My excitement knows no bounds currently.

user567 said:
I said i wasnt going to do this anecdotal crap but tonights pumps for chest were unreal. I did take cialis which usually creates a crazy pump but chest is hard to get a good pump with. Doing cable flys there was a huge pump. Tomorrow is arms so lets see how that goes
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criticalbench said:
I would love for someone to get baseline IGF-1 levels done on this, and again 4 or 8 weeks into a run.. who wants to be a guinea pig??


Vaughn.. maybe we can compensate someone with some bottles to do this?? :D I'd love to see numbers..
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I'd be willing to do this for some bottles. I work at a lab so it'd be easy to get tests done every 4 weeks
 
So only on workout day it would last longer, so in order to reps the best increase number of days per week training should be good with it
 
alvin1 said:
does people that use real IGF-1 use it every day or only pre or peri workout?
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IGF is so so so confusing, NOBODY and I mean NOBODY understands it. Not even those that use it, no wtf there doing, trust me.

Some use it workout days only, some use it only on non-workout days. Some use it only post workout, somd use it only pre-workout. Some only shoot in subq before bed. Some only shoot it subq pre or post workout.

Some only use DES, some only LR3, some alternate it with 100mcg of MGF, and some alternating days with 250-500mcg of PEG MGF.. some shoot it immediately PWO followed by gh 15 mins later, followed by insulin 15 mins later in a GK protocol.. some say you need insulin for IGF to work..

the list goes on and on and on lol..

Injectable IGF is a gamble.. that is why IMO we made an oral version with a specific delivery system to get around mumbo jumbo. IGF is far to complicated for anyone. Injectable.. you spend more money trialing and erroring and find yourself burried under ground of old age before you figure it out. I can't tell you how much money ive spend on inject IGF, it was never worth it.. invest which is a serious commitment in legit growth hormone, or stick to alternative measures and save up.

This is a much more simplistic route to take, far less confusing, and you will waste far far far less money on a trial and error period. I am really excited for this product to shine! I don't expect massive explosives, I expect slow and steady solidified gains like anything that boosts igf levels.
 
criticalbench said:
IGF is so so so confusing, NOBODY and I mean NOBODY understands it. Not even those that use it, no wtf there doing, trust me.

Some use it workout days only, some use it only on non-workout days. Some use it only post workout, somd use it only pre-workout. Some only shoot in subq before bed. Some only shoot it subq pre or post workout.

Some only use DES, some only LR3, some alternate it with 100mcg of MGF, and some alternating days with 250-500mcg of PEG MGF.. some shoot it immediately PWO followed by gh 15 mins later, followed by insulin 15 mins later in a GK protocol.. some say you need insulin for IGF to work..

the list goes on and on and on lol..

Injectable IGF is a gamble.. that is why IMO we made an oral version with a specific delivery system to get around mumbo jumbo. IGF is far to complicated for anyone. Injectable.. you spend more money trialing and erroring and find yourself burried under ground of old age before you figure it out. I can't tell you how much money ive spend on inject IGF, it was never worth it.. invest which is a serious commitment in legit growth hormone, or stick to alternative measures and save up.

This is a much more simplistic route to take, far less confusing, and you will waste far far far less money on a trial and error period. I am really excited for this product to shine! I don't expect massive explosives, I expect slow and steady solidified gains like anything that boosts igf levels.
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Lots of good info right there.
 
criticalbench said:
IGF is so so so confusing, NOBODY and I mean NOBODY understands it. Not even those that use it, no wtf there doing, trust me.

Some use it workout days only, some use it only on non-workout days. Some use it only post workout, somd use it only pre-workout. Some only shoot in subq before bed. Some only shoot it subq pre or post workout.

Some only use DES, some only LR3, some alternate it with 100mcg of MGF, and some alternating days with 250-500mcg of PEG MGF.. some shoot it immediately PWO followed by gh 15 mins later, followed by insulin 15 mins later in a GK protocol.. some say you need insulin for IGF to work..

the list goes on and on and on lol..

Injectable IGF is a gamble.. that is why IMO we made an oral version with a specific delivery system to get around mumbo jumbo. IGF is far to complicated for anyone. Injectable.. you spend more money trialing and erroring and find yourself burried under ground of old age before you figure it out. I can't tell you how much money ive spend on inject IGF, it was never worth it.. invest which is a serious commitment in legit growth hormone, or stick to alternative measures and save up.

This is a much more simplistic route to take, far less confusing, and you will waste far far far less money on a trial and error period. I am really excited for this product to shine! I don't expect massive explosives, I expect slow and steady solidified gains like anything that boosts igf levels.
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Never cared for LR3 or DES..but I do like the original RH-IGF 1, IF you can even find the legit stuff these days..so yeah Ill give Hi-Tech's version a go. :-)
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
Never cared for LR3 or DES..but I do like the original RH-IGF 1, IF you can even find the legit stuff these days..so yeah Ill give Hi-Tech's version a go. :-)
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Def.. very hard to come by. Not going to lie on that one! You no it right away when you find good Igf.. its like, woah wtf was that!
 
Getting 6 bottles next week.
Will double dose it (10 tabs at day) and will be taking every single day.
My workout routine is good and I have solid diet too. So it will be fun to see if it does anything.
 
Danes said:
Getting 6 bottles next week.
Will double dose it (10 tabs at day) and will be taking every single day.
My workout routine is good and I have solid diet too. So it will be fun to see if it does anything.
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I suspect even better long term results with your protocol...20mcg a day is a bit.."mild".
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
I suspect even better long term results with your protocol...20mcg a day is a bit.."mild".
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Yea 40mcg would be better for my weight (108kg/238lb).
I have never tried hormones,peptides etc. So if this product works, I should definitely see some size, strength and even fatloss.
 
Danes said:
Yea 40mcg would be better for my weight (108kg/238lb).
I have never tried hormones,peptides etc. So if this product works, I should definitely see some size, strength and even fatloss.
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I will be following if you log!
 
Danes said:
Yea 40mcg would be better for my weight (108kg/238lb).
I have never tried hormones,peptides etc. So if this product works, I should definitely see some size, strength and even fatloss.
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Some effects you should notice soon..if it works for hyperplasia which is what rh-IGF is known to do, then you should notice results for that by your 3rd bottle.
 
Danes said:
Getting 6 bottles next week.
Will double dose it (10 tabs at day) and will be taking every single day.
My workout routine is good and I have solid diet too. So it will be fun to see if it does anything.
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I hope it works out well for you, I know you're not an easy guy to impress :)
 
JahCure said:
We are so fortunate to have our rich boy Danes who can research for us!

You are crazy brother! Hope you get up to 2fitty on day IGF!!!
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Will definitely be fun to see how it works. It is not cheap product but if it works, its definitely worth spending 94$ on a bottle lasting 25 days while double dosing it than spending plenty of $ on different stack which do nothing :)
 
Danes said:
Will definitely be fun to see how it works. It is not cheap product but if it works, its definitely worth spending 94$ on a bottle lasting 25 days while double dosing it than spending plenty of $ on different stack which do nothing :)
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Lol true, lord knows I've spent countless amounts of money on products throughout the years which I have noticed absolutely zero from.

Keep us updated with your experiment bro, and thanks for passing along your feedback.
 
JahCure said:
Lol true, lord knows I've spent countless amounts of money on products throughout the years which I have noticed absolutely zero from.

Keep us updated with your experiment bro, and thanks for passing along your feedback.
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Believe me bro, you are not the only one haha. :)
Sure, I will let you guys know how it works ! I will be honest as always :)
 
JahCure said:
Lol true, lord knows I've spent countless amounts of money on products throughout the years which I have noticed absolutely zero from.

Keep us updated with your experiment bro, and thanks for passing along your feedback.
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Im also part of the "no results" from anything natural club...but I just ordered a bottle of this pro IGF today..fingers crossed.
 
I'm going to be following suit with Danes and double dosing this I believe (well let me know what you guys would LIKE to see me do actually) ... right now I have one bottle in hand an another bottle on the way. I want to start my run/log next Monday.

I thought about 5 caps pre-workout (4 AM) and 5 caps pre-bed (approx. 9 PM) if I run just 5 caps per day (standard cycle) I will take them all at pre-workout.

The reason I'm thinking about double-dosing is my size. I'm only 5'6" (as most of you know) but about 240+ lbs. right now. And bodyfat is right around 10% I believe, maybe 12% because I really do love Koffee Kakes by Tastykake :) but honestly I'm fairly lean (look just like my avatar right now). Almost a visible six pack without flexing all that hard. But still could afford to lean out even more right now.


Soooooo ... thoughts on what you would like to see my run end up being on IGF-1. And no matter what my dosing is, I'm going to run it for at least 3 months.




-Spaz
 
Big_Spaz said:
I'm going to be following suit with Danes and double dosing this I believe (well let me know what you guys would LIKE to see me do actually) ... right now I have one bottle in hand an another bottle on the way. I want to start my run/log next Monday.

I thought about 5 caps pre-workout (4 AM) and 5 caps pre-bed (approx. 9 PM) if I run just 5 caps per day (standard cycle) I will take them all at pre-workout.

The reason I'm thinking about double-dosing is my size. I'm only 5'6" (as most of you know) but about 240+ lbs. right now. And bodyfat is right around 10% I believe, maybe 12% because I really do love Koffee Kakes by Tastykake :) but honestly I'm fairly lean (look just like my avatar right now). Almost a visible six pack without flexing all that hard. But still could afford to lean out even more right now.


Soooooo ... thoughts on what you would like to see my run end up being on IGF-1. And no matter what my dosing is, I'm going to run it for at least 3 months.




-Spaz
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Doubledosing is absolutely a good idea and for your size you also could triple dose it too :)
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
Im also part of the "no results" from anything natural club...but I just ordered a bottle of this pro IGF today..fingers crossed.
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Hope it goes well for you
 
Big_Spaz said:
I'm going to be following suit with Danes and double dosing this I believe (well let me know what you guys would LIKE to see me do actually) ... right now I have one bottle in hand an another bottle on the way. I want to start my run/log next Monday.

I thought about 5 caps pre-workout (4 AM) and 5 caps pre-bed (approx. 9 PM) if I run just 5 caps per day (standard cycle) I will take them all at pre-workout.

The reason I'm thinking about double-dosing is my size. I'm only 5'6" (as most of you know) but about 240+ lbs. right now. And bodyfat is right around 10% I believe, maybe 12% because I really do love Koffee Kakes by Tastykake :) but honestly I'm fairly lean (look just like my avatar right now). Almost a visible six pack without flexing all that hard. But still could afford to lean out even more right now.


Soooooo ... thoughts on what you would like to see my run end up being on IGF-1. And no matter what my dosing is, I'm going to run it for at least 3 months.




-Spaz
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Based on those stats, I think you should be sending me both of your bottles. Along with anything else you may see fit..
 
I know it is still relatively early, but I am beginning to feel that the skeptics (many of us) are going to end up being rightfully skeptical based on the logs. I would at least expect to hear some reports of increased muscle fullness, hypoglycemia, or improved sleep by the loggers by this point in the game.

Just sayin...
 
Ricky10 said:
I know it is still relatively early, but I am beginning to feel that the skeptics (many of us) are going to end up being rightfully skeptical based on the logs. I would at least expect to hear some reports of increased muscle fullness, hypoglycemia, or improved sleep by the loggers by this point in the game.

Just sayin...
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I bought 6 bottles of my own money and I need to say I am skeptic to this.
But its fun to try new stuff and if this works, it will deliver nice results. If it does not bring any IGF1 effects it means its just expensive whey tabs. I dont want to hear like " well you are non responder to this". There are no non responders to IGF1 :)
 
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