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hi, today i got bloodwork results, my igf is high 505nl / ml, normal is 97-228 ng / ml..i took one pill mk677 25mg 4 days before bloodwork, finished my first cycle tst e 250mg e5d + proviron 50mg ed, could one pill mk677 increase my igf 1? is my igf leves dangerous for prostate and other? im 25 years old.
 

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hi, today i got bloodwork results, my igf is high 505nl / ml, normal is 97-228 ng / ml..i took one pill mk677 25mg 4 days before bloodwork, finished my first cycle tst e 250mg e5d + proviron 50mg ed, could one pill mk677 increase my igf 1? is my igf leves dangerous for prostate and other? im 25 years old.
I highly doubt that mk is responsible for such a high igf 1. I guess you just have high natural levels.

Btw if only i had that level.
 
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I'm ectomorph, narrow shoulders, bones, little muscle ... If my igf was naturally tall, I would have big muscles and bones, I think?
 
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Why you doubt it shouldn't do that? Mk greatly increases igf-1
 
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because I only had one tablet in my life, my igf levels = 4iu real hgh, but I don't feel any benefits, I don't know why my levels it's so high
 
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Why you doubt it shouldn't do that? Mk greatly increases igf-1
One dose of mk is not going to do that. After about 2 weeks at that dose it should top out there but to take one dose and test 4 days later there would be no link between the 2. Also testosterone increases igf1
 
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hi, today i got bloodwork results, my igf is high 505nl / ml, normal is 97-228 ng / ml..i took one pill mk677 25mg 4 days before bloodwork, finished my first cycle tst e 250mg e5d + proviron 50mg ed, could one pill mk677 increase my igf 1? is my igf leves dangerous for prostate and other? im 25 years old.
It's from your cycle
 
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One dose of mk is not going to do that. After about 2 weeks at that dose it should top out there but to take one dose and test 4 days later there would be no link between the 2. Also testosterone increases igf1
My mistake, I read that it was after 4 caps.
Yeah, it's probably from cycle
 

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My mistake, I read that it was after 4 caps.
Yeah, it's probably from cycle
That is one interesting thing i used to come across when reading through material comparing test to nandrolone. Seems like test increases igf 1 while nandrolone doesnt, so nandrolone is a more pure form of androgen receptor activator while test provides you with multiple paths for growth (ar activation, increased igf 1, lowered cortisol).
 
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thanks guys, I think it's also testosterone, it can't be anything else, but the study shows only a slight increase.
 

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Why you doubt it shouldn't do that? Mk greatly increases igf-1
Tbh i have never seen anyone higher than high 300s on mk. It seems that 40% increase is pretty standard.

I wish it was more though.
 
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Also no, I have seen the results here + - 250, is that normal for mk, we will see what levels will be in a month
 

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Also no, I have seen the results here + - 250, is that normal for mk, we will see what levels will be in a month
I would be very interested to see your igf1 levels after a month of being off from mk and test. Would tell us something about the igf 1 elevation potential of these compounds.
 
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I would be very interested to see your igf1 levels after a month of being off from mk and test. Would tell us something about the igf 1 elevation potential of these compounds.
He wasn't on mk. Just test
 
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Then i guess he has high natural igf 1 levels. No way can test increase them by THAT much.
you say test can't make it increase by that much, how much? He never said a baseline number so there is zero way for someone to say how much it increased. taking testosterone "can" make your igf 1 score in the 500s, 100% possible. Taking estrogen can also raise your igf1 levels significantly as well. I don't know how much his levels increased or what caused it. There's also things that temporarily spike igf 1 and 50 other variables we don't know here.
 

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you say test can't make it increase by that much, how much? He never said a baseline number so there is zero way for someone to say how much it increased. taking testosterone "can" make your igf 1 score in the 500s, 100% possible. Taking estrogen can also raise your igf1 levels significantly as well. I don't know how much his levels increased or what caused it. There's also things that temporarily spike igf 1 and 50 other variables we don't know here.
He quoted the normal range up to 228, i am saying i dont believe test has taken him from normal range to 500s, implying that his levels are above normal range without test at play.
 
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He quoted the normal range up to 228, i am saying i dont believe test has taken him from normal range to 500s, implying that his levels are above normal range without test at play.
Ok I understand, but it is possible for the increase in test and estradiol to raise your igf 1 that high
 

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Ok I understand, but it is possible for the increase in test and estradiol to raise your igf 1 that high
You mean from normal range (less than 228 in this case) to 500s? Just from test?
 
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You mean from normal range (less than 228 in this case) to 500s? Just from test?
It can drastically increase your igf 1 levels. I don't think anyone knows a limit to how high. Do you think it's more likely that his natural igf1 production is higher and someone on anabolic steroids? Probably not
 

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It can drastically increase your igf 1 levels. I don't think anyone knows a limit to how high. Do you think it's more likely that his natural igf1 production is higher and someone on anabolic steroids? Probably not
I just never saw evidence that test can double your igf 1. Always thought the increase was modest.

That would put test more effective at raising igf1 than secretagogues. Hell, mk wont double your igf 1.
 
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I just never saw evidence that test can double your igf 1. Always thought the increase was modest.

That would put test more effective at raising igf1 than secretagogues. Hell, mk wont double your igf 1.
All aas increase igf 1, some more, some less, it's part of it's anabolic action
 
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All aas increase igf 1, some more, some less, it's part of it's anabolic action
Also igf1 levels are elevated for like 24 hours after intense weight training. There's a million reasons his igf could be so elevated and it's probably a combination of many
 
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my estradiol after the cycle is 328 high, now im six days on pct 100clomid ed, exemestan 25 e2d, but this could not do i think, today start mk, we will see after month
 
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my estradiol after the cycle is 328 high, now im six days on pct 100clomid ed, exemestan 25 e2d, but this could not do i think, today start mk, we will see after month
328?? What kind of side effects did you have? How did you feel wtf
 
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I felt good, no difference between natural mode, for muscle growth it is better to have higher estrogen
Yeah higher estrogen as in 60-80.... a LITTLE out of range.. omfg I hope you’re joking
 
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Yeah higher estrogen as in 60-80.... a LITTLE out of range.. omfg I hope you’re joking
Im not joking bro :D i feel great nothing negatives, but i had ready anastrazole ,but I didn't use it
 

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I felt good, no difference between natural mode, for muscle growth it is better to have higher estrogen
Yeah it is a different range. Form what i see, your e2 is roughly equivalent to 80-100 pg/ml (it is a little bit over double the top of reference).

I agree with you. Trying to keep e2 within reference when test is 3+ times above reference may not be the smartest idea, considering that our body likes to keep a certain ratio.

if you got no sides, no need to use drugs to cure the non-existing sides.
 
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Your estrogen is not that crazy, If I was you I'd take 25mg exemestane eod for a week or so and then 12.5 eod for another 2 weeks and check it again
 
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Im not joking bro :D i feel great nothing negatives, but i had ready anastrazole ,but I didn't use it
Yeah you’re using a different range than ours. These levels are okay I agree with you. For our range it 358 is crazy elevated it’s like if you were at 1200 or something. Really nothing healthy about that. But for your actual estrogen I agree it’s a great environment for muscle growth.
 
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Yeah you’re using a different range than ours. These levels are okay I agree with you. For our range it 358 is crazy elevated it’s like if you were at 1200 or something. Really nothing healthy about that. But for your actual estrogen I agree it’s a great environment for muscle growth.
His IGF1 range is almost certainly different too.
 

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That is one interesting thing i used to come across when reading through material comparing test to nandrolone. Seems like test increases igf 1 while nandrolone doesnt, so nandrolone is a more pure form of androgen receptor activator while test provides you with multiple paths for growth (ar activation, increased igf 1, lowered cortisol).
Idk how correct this is I know nandrolone lowers igf binding protein which means more igf becomes effective. Not to mention my sleep and skin color etc is slightly on par with a smaller dose of mk but who knows I never got it tested I know nandrolone definitely effects igf though as Does test. Also nandrolone is the strongest steroid at promoting nitrogen retention over test which makes it a great anti catabolic
 
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such levels igf on cycle can have each of you, we do not know, it would like to see the levels of others on the cycle
 
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such levels igf on cycle can have each of you, we do not know, it would like to see the levels of others on the cycle
What country do you live in?
 

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