I highly doubt that mk is responsible for such a high igf 1. I guess you just have high natural levels.
One dose of mk is not going to do that. After about 2 weeks at that dose it should top out there but to take one dose and test 4 days later there would be no link between the 2. Also testosterone increases igf1
It's from your cycle
My mistake, I read that it was after 4 caps.
That is one interesting thing i used to come across when reading through material comparing test to nandrolone. Seems like test increases igf 1 while nandrolone doesnt, so nandrolone is a more pure form of androgen receptor activator while test provides you with multiple paths for growth (ar activation, increased igf 1, lowered cortisol).
Tbh i have never seen anyone higher than high 300s on mk. It seems that 40% increase is pretty standard.
I would be very interested to see your igf1 levels after a month of being off from mk and test. Would tell us something about the igf 1 elevation potential of these compounds.
He wasn't on mk. Just test
Then i guess he has high natural igf 1 levels. No way can test increase them by THAT much.
you say test can't make it increase by that much, how much? He never said a baseline number so there is zero way for someone to say how much it increased. taking testosterone "can" make your igf 1 score in the 500s, 100% possible. Taking estrogen can also raise your igf1 levels significantly as well. I don't know how much his levels increased or what caused it. There's also things that temporarily spike igf 1 and 50 other variables we don't know here.
He quoted the normal range up to 228, i am saying i dont believe test has taken him from normal range to 500s, implying that his levels are above normal range without test at play.
Ok I understand, but it is possible for the increase in test and estradiol to raise your igf 1 that high
You mean from normal range (less than 228 in this case) to 500s? Just from test?
It can drastically increase your igf 1 levels. I don't think anyone knows a limit to how high. Do you think it's more likely that his natural igf1 production is higher and someone on anabolic steroids? Probably not
I just never saw evidence that test can double your igf 1. Always thought the increase was modest.
All aas increase igf 1, some more, some less, it's part of it's anabolic action
Also igf1 levels are elevated for like 24 hours after intense weight training. There's a million reasons his igf could be so elevated and it's probably a combination of many
328?? What kind of side effects did you have? How did you feel wtf
I felt good, no difference between natural mode, for muscle growth it is better to have higher estrogen
Yeah higher estrogen as in 60-80.... a LITTLE out of range.. omfg I hope you’re joking
Im not joking bro
i feel great nothing negatives, but i had ready anastrazole ,but I didn't use itYeah it is a different range. Form what i see, your e2 is roughly equivalent to 80-100 pg/ml (it is a little bit over double the top of reference).
Yeah you’re using a different range than ours. These levels are okay I agree with you. For our range it 358 is crazy elevated it’s like if you were at 1200 or something. Really nothing healthy about that. But for your actual estrogen I agree it’s a great environment for muscle growth.Im not joking bro
That would explain some things lol
Idk how correct this is I know nandrolone lowers igf binding protein which means more igf becomes effective. Not to mention my sleep and skin color etc is slightly on par with a smaller dose of mk but who knows I never got it tested I know nandrolone definitely effects igf though as Does test. Also nandrolone is the strongest steroid at promoting nitrogen retention over test which makes it a great anti catabolic
Live in Czech Republic
Local brand, magnus pharmaceuticals, but idk if it works, in a month will se
