Higenamine HCL safe?

Zariph

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Hello.

First off, Im NOT stating anything, its just a question....

How come higenamine is used in that many supps? When I tr y to read about whether its safe or not it seems to be possibly unsafe?

HIGENAMINE: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings - WebMD

Just asking since I may have missed something, and there seems to be ALOT of nice pre workouts that I wanna try out, but havent tried them yet cause of the higenamine
 
I don't know about the safety of it, but I personally have used 4-5 Alphamine scoops in a single day, which I'm assuming is quite a bit of Higenamine, and never had an issue.
 
You will be fine, i have tested obscene amounts bolus and live to tell the tale.
 
A study cited in this paper[11] but otherwise inaccessible, from the journal Zhongguo Lin Chuang Yao Li Xue Za Zhi (Y.R Du et al.) suggests that the highest safe/recommended dose in humans is 24mcg/kg bodyweight as higenamine hydrochloride. Rabbit studies appear to use 50mg/kg acutely with no harm acutely (correlates to 11mg/kg[32]) but no long term studies have been conducted.
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http://examine.com/supplements/Higenamine/
 
okay thx, so as with anything else - its just a question about dosing right I guess
 
the truth is very few stimulants(and any ingredients for that matter) have long term safety data. That said, higenamine is one stim I take without any pause for concern.
 
VaughnTrue said:
the truth is very few stimulants(and any ingredients for that matter) have long term safety data. That said, higenamine is one stim I take without any pause for concern.
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I think a relevant question is not only if a lot of stims are safe, but are they even effective? That's a topic for another thread I guess.
 
carmaf said:
I think a relevant question is not only if a lot of stims are safe, but are they even effective? That's a topic for another thread I guess.
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well effective in terms of providing energy or effective in burning fat? two very different beasts IMO
 
VaughnTrue said:
well effective in terms of providing energy or effective in burning fat? two very different beasts IMO
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Energy. Once I'm used to the caffeine kick, I find very few stims do anything to give me energy personally.
 
carmaf said:
Energy. Once I'm used to the caffeine kick, I find very few stims do anything to give me energy personally.
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well once tolerance is raised, its hard to feel anything. while many stims work through unique mechanisms, if you're downing a ton of caffeine each day, you probably won't feel stims unless you take a very large dose
 
VaughnTrue said:
well once tolerance is raised, its hard to feel anything. while many stims work through unique mechanisms, if you're downing a ton of caffeine each day, you probably won't feel stims unless you take a very large dose
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Yeah that is true. Yohimbe always gives a bit of a kick though...and sometimes not in a good way...
 
with regards to sides
i guess it could cause gi issues in some, above certain doses
 
Woody said:
Try Conqu3r Unleashed or Ferox.
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Hahahah Ferox looks like too much, I'm not about that crazy stim life, but I've been interested in Conqu3r since the original. Now that OL has better availability I may give it a shot. As of right now FocusXT is my new ****.
 
carmaf said:
Hahahah Ferox looks like too much, I'm not about that crazy stim life, but I've been interested in Conqu3r since the original. Now that OL has better availability I may give it a shot. As of right now FocusXT is my new ****.
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You won't be disappointed with Conqu3r Unleashed.
 
kboxer7 said:
You won't be disappointed with Conqu3r Unleashed.
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This is what I'm hearing. Conqu3r and Hypermax are on my list of strong pres to try for sure.
 
carmaf said:
This is what I'm hearing. Conqu3r and Hypermax are on my list of strong pres to try for sure.
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I think you'll like the stimulant blend in Hyper Max cause I tried their thermogenic which has a very similar stimulant blend
and I loved the mood and long lasting energy that I got from it and it only has 200mg of caffeine per cap and 1 cap was
all I needed for my early a.m. iron workout and I experienced no bad sides from it.
 
totalpackage said:
I think you'll like the stimulant blend in Hyper Max cause I tried their thermogenic which has a very similar stimulant blend
and I loved the mood and long lasting energy that I got from it and it only has 200mg of caffeine per cap and 1 cap was
all I needed for my early a.m. iron workout and I experienced no bad sides from it.
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I'm interested in trying Eria Jarensis in Hypermax mainly
 
Hypermax energy is solid. It's different from CU but still great
 
totalpackage said:
I think you'll like the stimulant blend in Hyper Max cause I tried their thermogenic which has a very similar stimulant blend
and I loved the mood and long lasting energy that I got from it and it only has 200mg of caffeine per cap and 1 cap was
all I needed for my early a.m. iron workout and I experienced no bad sides from it.
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Per scoop you mean? OxyMax is caps. Hypermax is powder
 
totalpackage said:
Actually 200mg per cap for Oxy Max XT is exactly correct as confirmed by Price Plow.
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Yeah misread your original post like you misread mine . I got what you're saying now.

And I agree. The energy on OxyMax was solid. Having tried Hypermax, I can say the energy is also solid
 
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