Higenamine HCL safe?

[Zariph]

Hello.

First off, Im NOT stating anything, its just a question....

How come higenamine is used in that many supps? When I tr y to read about whether its safe or not it seems to be possibly unsafe?

HIGENAMINE: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings - WebMD

Just asking since I may have missed something, and there seems to be ALOT of nice pre workouts that I wanna try out, but havent tried them yet cause of the higenamine

 

[carmaf]

I don't know about the safety of it, but I personally have used 4-5 Alphamine scoops in a single day, which I'm assuming is quite a bit of Higenamine, and never had an issue.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

You will be fine, i have tested obscene amounts bolus and live to tell the tale.

 

[kboxer7]

You will be fine, i have tested obscene amounts bolus and live to tell the tale.

#TRUTH

 

[The_Old_Guy]

A study cited in this paper[11] but otherwise inaccessible, from the journal Zhongguo Lin Chuang Yao Li Xue Za Zhi (Y.R Du et al.) suggests that the highest safe/recommended dose in humans is 24mcg/kg bodyweight as higenamine hydrochloride. Rabbit studies appear to use 50mg/kg acutely with no harm acutely (correlates to 11mg/kg[32]) but no long term studies have been conducted.

http://examine.com/supplements/Higenamine/

 

[Zariph]

okay thx, so as with anything else - its just a question about dosing right I guess

 

[VaughnTrue]

the truth is very few stimulants(and any ingredients for that matter) have long term safety data. That said, higenamine is one stim I take without any pause for concern.

 

[carmaf]

the truth is very few stimulants(and any ingredients for that matter) have long term safety data. That said, higenamine is one stim I take without any pause for concern.

I think a relevant question is not only if a lot of stims are safe, but are they even effective? That's a topic for another thread I guess.

 

[VaughnTrue]

I think a relevant question is not only if a lot of stims are safe, but are they even effective? That's a topic for another thread I guess.

well effective in terms of providing energy or effective in burning fat? two very different beasts IMO

 

[carmaf]

well effective in terms of providing energy or effective in burning fat? two very different beasts IMO

Energy. Once I'm used to the caffeine kick, I find very few stims do anything to give me energy personally.

 

[VaughnTrue]

Energy. Once I'm used to the caffeine kick, I find very few stims do anything to give me energy personally.

well once tolerance is raised, its hard to feel anything. while many stims work through unique mechanisms, if you're downing a ton of caffeine each day, you probably won't feel stims unless you take a very large dose

 

[carmaf]

well once tolerance is raised, its hard to feel anything. while many stims work through unique mechanisms, if you're downing a ton of caffeine each day, you probably won't feel stims unless you take a very large dose

Yeah that is true. Yohimbe always gives a bit of a kick though...and sometimes not in a good way...

 

[jp_x_type]

with regards to sides
i guess it could cause gi issues in some, above certain doses

 

[Woody]

Energy. Once I'm used to the caffeine kick, I find very few stims do anything to give me energy personally.

Try Conqu3r Unleashed or Ferox.

 

[carmaf]

Try Conqu3r Unleashed or Ferox.

Hahahah Ferox looks like too much, I'm not about that crazy stim life, but I've been interested in Conqu3r since the original. Now that OL has better availability I may give it a shot. As of right now FocusXT is my new ****.

 

[kboxer7]

Hahahah Ferox looks like too much, I'm not about that crazy stim life, but I've been interested in Conqu3r since the original. Now that OL has better availability I may give it a shot. As of right now FocusXT is my new ****.

You won't be disappointed with Conqu3r Unleashed.

 

[carmaf]

You won't be disappointed with Conqu3r Unleashed.

This is what I'm hearing. Conqu3r and Hypermax are on my list of strong pres to try for sure.

 

[totalpackage]

This is what I'm hearing. Conqu3r and Hypermax are on my list of strong pres to try for sure.

I think you'll like the stimulant blend in Hyper Max cause I tried their thermogenic which has a very similar stimulant blend
and I loved the mood and long lasting energy that I got from it and it only has 200mg of caffeine per cap and 1 cap was
all I needed for my early a.m. iron workout and I experienced no bad sides from it.

 

[carmaf]

I think you'll like the stimulant blend in Hyper Max cause I tried their thermogenic which has a very similar stimulant blend
and I loved the mood and long lasting energy that I got from it and it only has 200mg of caffeine per cap and 1 cap was
all I needed for my early a.m. iron workout and I experienced no bad sides from it.

I'm interested in trying Eria Jarensis in Hypermax mainly

 

[Woody]

Hypermax energy is solid. It's different from CU but still great

 

[Woody]

I think you'll like the stimulant blend in Hyper Max cause I tried their thermogenic which has a very similar stimulant blend
and I loved the mood and long lasting energy that I got from it and it only has 200mg of caffeine per cap and 1 cap was
all I needed for my early a.m. iron workout and I experienced no bad sides from it.

Per scoop you mean? OxyMax is caps. Hypermax is powder

 

[totalpackage]

Per scoop you mean? OxyMax is caps. Hypermax is powder

Actually 200mg per cap for Oxy Max XT is exactly correct as confirmed by Price Plow.

 

[Woody]

Actually 200mg per cap for Oxy Max XT is exactly correct as confirmed by Price Plow.

Yeah misread your original post like you misread mine . I got what you're saying now.

And I agree. The energy on OxyMax was solid. Having tried Hypermax, I can say the energy is also solid