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help w/weight loss advice for chubby friend

cubsfan815 said:
I wouldn't say it's always placebo. I am extremely overweight, and suffer from what I believe to be a food addiction. Before I ever started working out I was 325lbs roughly. I started taking the old ephedra based products which would keep my from giving into my cravings. I used low carb/calorie restricted diets and went from 325-175 in a little over year and a half. Granted I was also unemployed, and going through a divorce, so I had all day to work out.

Once I hit 175, I wanted to bulk up. I started taking lots of supps/prohormones and worked my way to 240lbs. Then came stressful job, new relationship, eating all the foods I missed out on, and I found myself back at 320+. Only difference is I have a lot more muscle mass now.

I use supplements like Alphamine/Alpha T2 all the time. I know they won't magically make the fat disappear, but they do help curb my appetite/cravings, put me in good/relaxed mood, and keep me sweating.

In March I was 320, by end of May I was down to 298. I have just started restricting calories again this week, and will be keeping Alphamine/Alpha T2 in my system lol.
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I WHOLLY agree with you here on appetite suppression. In that case, supplements that can effectively suppress appetite are very useful. However, I was mainly referring to the notion that the supplements would directly make the fat disappear :P In that case, they don't do much especially if one is notably tubby ;)

I have personally found that a week or so of change in diet and food intake is equally as effective at adjusting appetite, but I can see how if one has a food addiction, that would not change their appetite since food addiction would be a psychological issue rather than a appetite issue.
 
kissdadookie said:
I WHOLLY agree with you here on appetite suppression. In that case, supplements that can effectively suppress appetite are very useful. However, I was mainly referring to the notion that the supplements would directly make the fat disappear :P In that case, they don't do much especially if one is notably tubby ;)

I have personally found that a week or so of change in diet and food intake is equally as effective at adjusting appetite, but I can see how if one has a food addiction, that would not change their appetite since food addiction would be a psychological issue rather than a appetite issue.
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What'd you call me. LMAO

That should be my new screen name.. Notable Tubby... Yeah I come from a family of alcohol/prescription pill addicts. I watched a lot of bad things happen, and I was too young to do drugs/drink, so I turned to food. When I got older I knew when to drink and when not to. I am very careful to not fall into that trap. I still like to party and get a lil f'ed up haha. I'm just cautious.
 
cubsfan815 said:
What'd you call me. LMAO

That should be my new screen name.. Notable Tubby... Yeah I come from a family of alcohol/prescription pill addicts. I watched a lot of bad things happen, and I was too young to do drugs/drink, so I turned to food. When I got older I knew when to drink and when not to. I am very careful to not fall into that trap. I still like to party and get a lil f'ed up haha. I'm just cautious.
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You get my utmost respect :D
 
All about the proper ratio of macro-nutrients and activity levels. Supplements can only do so much, but a good bet would be iForce's DexaprineXR. It is more important to keep caloric intake at a minimum in order to reduce excess body fat.
 
Supps will not cure the problem, but they can certainly play a role through many different mechanisms to help this guy. Working out is a must, but he seems to be moving in this area. Control over diet is a must, at least implementing healthier choices and being aware of Kcal intake. If he will just make small steps in his diet, commit to working out and being active, supps can certainly aid him in the process.

They are one set of means to his desired end. Otherwise, yes, its just a waste of money. Noone is foolish enough tp believe you can lie in bed, drink Budweiser and Mountain Dew, eat Big Macs and doritos and expect to win a physique competition by simply taking a fat burner and t booster.

Also, not all overweight people are sedintary or lack for physical activity. Such a notion gives off the air of arrogance and prejudicial stereotyping.
 
If you make absolutely no change to your diet but introduce things like forskolin, chlorogenic acid, or yohimbine (in ISOLATION), you will lose fat mass. So yes, these ingredients actually do burn fat completely irrespective of appetite suppression. In all the studies, no significant differences in energy intake were noted between such ingredients vs placebo groups
 
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