I also had heard only good things about MA, but the bloodwork doesn’t lie...
OK, I am not addressing this to Luomo88 in particular, but its time for a lesson here, guys. However, before I get to that, I want to point out that the OP and I had a nice phone conversation last night and he now underatands what I am about to tell you here.
First of all, two things were mentioned in this thread--results and bloodwork. I will address both. Let's address results first, as it will only take but a second. Aside from the fact that muscle growth is NEVER a reliable indicator of a product's legitimacy (for obvious reasons, which any semi-educated individual is aware of), results with RAD are MILD AT best. Out of ALL the various SARMs, RAD is at the bottom of the pack when it comes to muscle building potency. It is a step above Osta, but less potent than basically everything else. S23 sits at the top of the heap followed by something like LGD, etc. Keep going down the list and you get to RAD. This is not disputable. It is a fact that can be easily verified by viewing the clinical research. Aside from all that, the OP said he DID see results. He just hopped to gain more, but his progress was right in line with what is normally seen with RAD. I consider 20 mg/day to be the BARE MINIMUM to even see resullts with RAD. Unless someone is a steroid/SARM novice, most people gain little to nothing with 10 mg/day. Heck, we even see people on the boards (who bought from many different companies) saying they barely gained anything with LGD, which is significantly more potent than RAD...and no one bats an eye..yet the OP doesn't blow up and suddenly it is an indicator of illegimacy? The lesson here is--don't expect steroid-like results from SARMs, especially the weaker ones. You may be able to garner moderate sterid-like results from the more powerful SARM cycles, such as 20 mg LGD/day + 20 mg S23/day (reviews of those cycle are posted on this board, along with the sponsor used.
), but using single compounds like RAD or Osta--forget about it.
Moving on...
You want to talk about bloodwork? Yes, let's do that...because a couple of you guys are aren't seeing what is actually going on here. The OP got bloods before and after, in which he tested many things. Let's look at his T levels, LH levels and lipids--3 of the most commonly affected markers in steroid/SARM users. When it comes to testosterone and LH from a lab testing standpoint, do you know what the main difference is between the two? Testosterone levels fluctuate significantly through the day and can be affected by many different factors (time of day, training, sleep, diet, etc), while LH levels do not flucuate to the same degree, nor do they necessarily fluctuate in tandem with testosterone levels. In other words, you could have your T levels tested twice in the same day and one reading could be 500, while the other might be 300. This is VERY common...and is even MORE likely to hapoen in those who engage in hard weight training, as a single training session can cause T levels to plummit! Therefore, it is easily possible, depending on the circumstances, to see relatively little variance in one's T levels after a SARM cycle, especially with RAD or Osta...and even more so when they already have a low T level to begin with. It doesn't mean that suppression didn't occur, it just means that one round of bloodwork may have been drawn when T levels were at their peak...and the other round may have been taken during a trough. Again, when dealing with T levels in the 300 range, this is easily possible and happens all the time.
Fortunately, we don't have to rely on just one blood marker to test for HPTA suppression. Look at his LH levels! LH is the FIRST pituitary hormone to be impacted during HPTA suppression...and is responsible for the testes producing testosterone. According to his lab work, his LH levels decreased from 5.3 to 2.6! That's a HUGE decrease--comparable to many moderate steroid cycles and well below normal for someone his age. This is a CLEAR, undeniable sign of significant HPTA suppression! There is no getting around this. No bullshiting. It is what it is. He is significantly suppressed, period. The fact that his T levels only decreased a little bit, in light of his signifciantly suppressed LH levels, does not indicate a lack of suppression. What it indicates is that his T levels were simply fluctuating when he took his test. Otherwise, his LH would not have decreased by 50%! You could test your T levels 4 times in a single day and they would be different every time. Other factors, such as whether or not you trained that day, how much sleep you got, what your diet has been like, etc., will ALL have a dramatic impact on your T reading at that time.
Let's move onto his lipids. Look at his LDL and HDL. Do you know what the most common change in lipids is when someone is using steroids or SARMs? it's the ratio of LDL to HDL, not total lipid levels! This is because steroids/SARM typically cause HDL to go down and LDL levels to rise, leaving the individual at roughly the same total cholesterol level, but with a very differnet LDL to HDL ratio...and that's EXACTLY what happened here!. His HDL went down 10 points and his LDL went up 10 points!
In conclusion, everything we're seeing here is right in line with what we have come to expect from these substances. Nothing is out of the ordinary and his blood work clearly indicates both signifcant HPTA suppression AND the type of lipid alteration that should be occurring.
As far as the product being what it is supposed to be, it was tested at over 98% purity. I go out of my way (and spend a LOT of extra money) to have everything tested...and when I get my next batch of RAD-140 in, the OP was invited to be a co-participant in the next round of lab testing. He has been invited to sit in as a 3rd party, so that he can directly speak to the lab technician regarding the purity results. As always, it will be exactly what it is supposed to be...just like the last batch was. There is a reason my company has such a good reputation for quality all over the Net...and this is it. Unfortunately, when people speak about things they are not educated about there is little I can do other than inform you. Look how many reviews I have right here on this board from various respectable members...with SARMs and other research chems...and you will see nothing but positive reviews everywhere.
On another note, I once had a guy tell me the T3 he bought from me was fake...and that he had bloodwork to prove it (he said this through an email). I am sitting here thinking "Ok, great. I just got this batch in (100's of bottles worth) and am looking at the lab results showing 99%+ purity, yet this guy tells me he has lab work to prove it and is going to make a public issue out of it if I don't refund his money". So, as usual, the only way to get to the bottom of it was to call him, so I did. As it turns out, after reviewing the lab work he forwarded me, the guy didn't even have his T3 levels tested! I am NOT kidding. He didn't even test them. He only tested his T4 levels...and what did they show? Suppression of his T4 levels, which is exactly what one should expect to happen with T3. Even after he realized he was wrong, he offered no apology. He was clearly angry about being wrong and instead of admitting it, he took it out on me (despite kissing this guy's ass for 60 minutes) and actually told me that if the T3 was real, his T4 levels should have went up...and then demanded that I send him more T3 or he as going to publicly out me! LOL. Of course, I told him he was wrong about his T4 levels...and then he hung up on me. Obviously, he never posted anything publicly because he knew he was wrong, but ....
...what if I hadn't taken an hour out of my day to call this guy an get the full story? He would have put up a public thread bad-mouthing me on the boards. It would have went something like this... "I bought T3 from Mike Arnold and it was bunk. I have bloods to prove it". End thread. Then I would have had who knows how many people questioning whether or not my T3 is actually real. This is why there is a protocol in place for questions like this. I have a company email for a reason. I should have been contacted at my company email (which I check daily, except the weekends, although I usually check on Saturday and sometimes even Sunday) and had the situation addressed BEFORE a thread like this was posted...because all it takes is a couple ignorant people to make people question a company's product legitimacy. It doesn't matter if the company has a million awesome reviews and no bad reviews (like me); they will hang on that one bad review without even knowing if it was a legitimate gripe or not. Why? Because so many companies HAVE ripped people off--PURPOSELY! This places every other comoany at a disadvantage. As a result, it takes a long time for a company to prove themselves to the communith and gain their trust. As evidenced by the overwhelmingly positive response I have received over the last 3 years of running MA Labs and MA Research, I believe I have accomplished that. Product quality is EXTREMELY important to me...and I have gone to great lengths in an effort to place myself in front of the pack. So, it bothers me to see a thread like this (the first one I have enocuntered since I opened), especially when this question wasn't even brought to me first.
In closing, when I spoke to the OP on the phone, he was a very cool and respectful guy. All I ask is that in the future, if anyone doesn't understand something or has a question of any kind, please just ask me--at my company email, which can be found on the website (click the contact us tab). Thank you. --Mike Arnold.