Help! No more Craze :( Need new PWO

ok, atm I'm trying to decide between PES Enhanced and Stimul8.

Leaning towards Stimul8 tbh just cause the ingredients list looks better to me, only downside both of them do not contain creatine.

I am probably going to stack them with hemavol, any good creatine product I should stack with them as well ?
 
wizard12 said:
ok, atm I'm trying to decide between PES Enhanced and Stimul8.

Leaning towards Stimul8 tbh just cause the ingredients list looks better to me, only downside both of them do not contain creatine.

I am probably going to stack them with hemavol, any good creatine product I should stack with them as well ?
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I like stimul8. Haven't tried enhanced yet. But just ad some creatine mono. Cheap and effective.
 
wizard12 said:
ok, atm I'm trying to decide between PES Enhanced and Stimul8.

Leaning towards Stimul8 tbh just cause the ingredients list looks better to me, only downside both of them do not contain creatine.

I am probably going to stack them with hemavol, any good creatine product I should stack with them as well ?
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just grab something like creaplex....just grab a quality mono thats micronized or creapure
 
wizard12 said:
ok, atm I'm trying to decide between PES Enhanced and Stimul8.

Leaning towards Stimul8 tbh just cause the ingredients list looks better to me, only downside both of them do not contain creatine.

I am probably going to stack them with hemavol, any good creatine product I should stack with them as well ?
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Check out this deal on Nutraplanet.

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The stack comes with our Crea Trona creatine in a sample size as well as Max Pump. This is a great stack for strength and endurance and has enough of the samples there for you to gauge how you like all three products together.
 
I made an order for that stack, hope I wont be disappointed.

Also, I keep in mind all other PWO that won most of your votes which are Enhanced, New Assault , Alphamine , Conquer and Muscle Marinade.

Thank you guys for your help, much appreciated.
 
T-Bone said:
I have around 6 more sample packs.
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The big fat liar part was a joke :) seriously though try half a scoop. Stimul8 isn't designed to make you feel jittery so I think it might have been just a bit too much brother.
 
Montego1 said:
The big fat liar part was a joke :) seriously though try half a scoop. Stimul8 isn't designed to make you feel jittery so I think it might have been just a bit too much brother.
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I have a pretty high stim tolerance, so I don't know. It was a strange feeling because I was tired and jittery at the same time. Did cardio, and usually I can get my heart rate up to target with 10-15 minutes. It took me 50 minutes of 60 minute session to finally hit my target HR....
 
T-Bone said:
I have a pretty high stim tolerance, so I don't know. It was a strange feeling because I was tired and jittery at the same time. Did cardio, and usually I can get my heart rate up to target with 10-15 minutes. It took me 50 minutes of 60 minute session to finally hit my target HR....
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I'm a stim junkie too and a full scoop is almost too much for me. This coming from a guy who loved a full scoop of Muscle Marinade and two scoops of Condense.
 
T-Bone said:
Two scoops enhanced pre workout and one to sip during my workout.
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Wish I could enjoy that with you but Enhanced didn't agree with me (most likely the yohimbine). This actually made me very sceptical about Stimul8 since its a pretty powerful thermo. So far I haven't had the same experience at all. I actually sweat very little on Stimul8 compared to other users.
 
I know its not sold on nutraplanet but I've been stuck on ANS Stimfactor or ANS Axiom for awhile both have good doses of dmaa and your usual preworkout ingredients, agmatine, beta alanine, betaine caffeine. The stimfactor is the stronger of the 2 as far as stims go
 
Hey bro,
Sorry if I'm too late but I would go with Alpha Rage by MGN. It's really one of my personal favorite pre workouts. I always get increased focus and intense pump!
 
The Solution said:
No anavar.. no care.....

MesoMorph, Enhanced blows this away.....
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the mesomorph of a few years ago was probably my favorite all time pre!!!

it's a shame greed has to drive companies to change formulas in an attempt to boost profits!!!

fortunately this backfired and now mesomorph is no longer at the top of anyones list!!!

hopefully other companies will learn from this mistake!!!
 
thebigt said:
the mesomorph of a few years ago was probably my favorite all time pre!!!

it's a shame greed has to drive companies to change formulas in an attempt to boost profits!!!

fortunately this backfired and now mesomorph is no longer at the top of anyones list!!!

hopefully other companies will learn from this mistake!!!
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You and I both! I remember those Mesomorph days, when we'd trade info on stims. Lol.
 
southpaw23 said:
You and I both! I remember those Mesomorph days, when we'd trade info on stims. Lol.
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i've got 2 sample packs of ritual i am gonna try out tomorrow!!!

but yeah, mesomorph was more talked about than any other supp on this forum before formula change....look what it got them, lol.
 
thebigt said:
i've got 2 sample packs of ritual i am gonna try out tomorrow!!! but yeah, mesomorph was more talked about than any other supp on this forum before formula change....look what it got them, lol.
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Original Mesomorph was popular but yah....
 
I said this in another Craze thread but how does Craze even compare to Enhanced?
Craze made me feel stoned. Completely ruined my workouts.
Enhanced is the new (better version) of Mesomorph IMO.
Throw in some micro GMS and a scoop or two of High Volume and see if you can get your earbud out of your ear after back or arms day lol.
I can't even reach close with a pump like that.
I have to either bend down or just yank on the cord.
Can't even reach my shaker cup to my mouth lol.
 
Couldn't stand craze, made me feel like a tweeked out zombie same for anything with dendrobium that's some nasty sh!t
 
Oscar said:
Couldn't stand craze, made me feel like a tweeked out zombie same for anything with dendrobium that's some nasty sh!t
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and this from the 'SWOLE STONER', lol............
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I said this in another Craze thread but how does Craze even compare to Enhanced?
Craze made me feel stoned. Completely ruined my workouts.
Enhanced is the new (better version) of Mesomorph IMO.
Throw in some micro GMS and a scoop or two of High Volume and see if you can get your earbud out of your ear after back or arms day lol.
I can't even reach close with a pump like that.
I have to either bend down or just yank on the cord.
Can't even reach my shaker cup to my mouth lol.
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I have seen photo evidence of your pump lol. :)
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I said this in another Craze thread but how does Craze even compare to Enhanced?
Craze made me feel stoned. Completely ruined my workouts.
Enhanced is the new (better version) of Mesomorph IMO.
Throw in some micro GMS and a scoop or two of High Volume and see if you can get your earbud out of your ear after back or arms day lol.
I can't even reach close with a pump like that.
I have to either bend down or just yank on the cord.
Can't even reach my shaker cup to my mouth lol.
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if you think enhanced is the new[better formula of mesomorph i might have to give it a try, i value your opinion!!!
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I said this in another Craze thread but how does Craze even compare to Enhanced?
Craze made me feel stoned. Completely ruined my workouts.
Enhanced is the new (better version) of Mesomorph IMO.
Throw in some micro GMS and a scoop or two of High Volume and see if you can get your earbud out of your ear after back or arms day lol.
I can't even reach close with a pump like that.
I have to either bend down or just yank on the cord.
Can't even reach my shaker cup to my mouth lol.
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And I've seen posts where enhanced made people sick to there stomach. I think it depends on the person. Crazed is total energy but not so great of pumps and enhanced is not quite as much energy but much better pumps IMO. I love both of them now that craze is gone enhanced is my goto.
 
snyderd1972 said:
And I've seen posts where enhanced made people sick to there stomach. I think it depends on the person. Crazed is total energy but not so great of pumps and enhanced is not quite as much energy but much better pumps IMO. I love both of them now that craze is gone enhanced is my goto.
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I'm sure some people do get sick. Everyone thinks they're a stim badass and goes the full two scoops.
Some people just don't like fruit punch lol.
I remember the original Beast Mode. I gagged with every sip.
 
thebigt said:
if you think enhanced is the new[better formula of mesomorph i might have to give it a try, i value your opinion!!!
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I remember how wet Mesomorph used to make you lol.
One thing you might notice is you won't get that skin tingle though. Just add some beta alanine.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I remember how wet Mesomorph used to make you lol.
One thing you might notice is you won't get that skin tingle though. Just add some beta alanine.
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lol...yeah, i was a real fan of meso, no doubt!!!
 
Awray08 said:
Noxipro Original w/ 1,3 or Noxipro Chrome.... ooooorrrrrrr I personally like the Stimul8 if I'm not using my own companies products! Props to the Finaflex guys on that product!
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Saw this on sale for 23.99 in all kinds of flavors at a certain misters supplement shop.
 
Can't believe no one talked about condense.

That shiit is awesome!

White flood reborn is amazing as well.

Focus xt is well, a legend of its own, can't ever go wrong, unless you were unlucky enough to get a tub of black cherry.
 
jbryand101b said:
Can't believe no one talked about condense. That shiit is awesome! White flood reborn is amazing as well. Focus xt is well, a legend of its own, can't ever go wrong, unless you were unlucky enough to get a tub of black cherry.
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You right. I love condense! Using it now too :-) mix some gms wit it too
 
PrepNwa23 said:
Enhanced is my go to preworkout when I need the boost. Add in the GMS and it's gonna be a good day in the gym.
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Tried 1.5 scoops on leg day
My heart felt like it was ready to jump out of my chest.. Stuff is Potent...
Could not imagine someone stacking hemavol the pumps would be deadly hurt.
 
T-Bone said:
No need to get all hostile. From what I've read online most people just mix up their pres in a shaker cup, drink it right down and then head to the gym.
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I never was hostile, maybe your assuming that?
Thats what most people do (key word), but that does not pertain to everyone.
 
jbryand101b said:
I slam my pre workout, an post workout shakes all down at once like when I drink a liquid cocaine baby!
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Heck yea I do too, def depending on the PWO used tho!
 
The Solution said:
Tried 1.5 scoops on leg day
My heart felt like it was ready to jump out of my chest.. Stuff is Potent...
Could not imagine someone stacking hemavol the pumps would be deadly hurt.
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T-Bone said:
Ever try just sipping it slowly over say a 45 minute period, instead of drinking it all down at once?.
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Please show me where i state i Slam my pre-workout or drink it down all at once from above ^^^^


Thanks.

xhrr said:
Ehh no your coming off like a dick he wasn't the only one to get that vibe
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jbryand101b said:
Liquid cocaine is a mix of 3 shots from different 100+ proof liqueurs.

1 shot of Bacardi 151
1 shot of rumplemintz
1 shot of goldschogers (sp)

All poured into one glass and slammed down.
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there was a time when that would have really sounded good, lol


ENJOY!!!:beerchug:
 
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