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PatWheeler

PatWheeler

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I'm looking at an AAS price list and have a question. All of the injectibles are listed as being 10ml vials. For example:

Test E 300 - $55

I'm familiar with sarms where one ml = one serving, is this the same? If so, $165 for a month of test seems nuts. It's my first time with injectibles so please be gentle.

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Depends on the dosage you wanna run, and how long you wanna run it. Lets say you wanna run 600mg a week for say 16 weeks. You would need 4 bottles so $220. In other words that would work out to 13.75 a week over the course of your cycle or just around 6.87 per shot. 1cc=1ml=300mg of Test E 300
 
PatWheeler said:
I'm looking at an AAS price list and have a question. All of the injectibles are listed as being 10ml vials. For example:

Test E 300 - $55

I'm familiar with sarms where one ml = one serving, is this the same? If so, $165 for a month of test seems nuts. It's my first time with injectibles so please be gentle.

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Yes. 1ml = 300mg (in your example).
 
You know, it also helps when you flip the mental switch from "eod" to "1/week".

Suddenly makes so much more sense now. Lol sorry my bad.
 
PatWheeler said:
You know, it also helps when you flip the mental switch from "eod" to "1/week".

Suddenly makes so much more sense now. Lol sorry my bad.
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:) I was looking and thinking HOLY CRAP he wants to run over 2000mg a week of test on his first cycle.....
 
With what you are planning to purchase you have a good 12-14 week beginner cycle that should produce very nice results!

Don't forgot to have your SERM on hand before you start your cycle.
 
What's up with that GH....you know anybody who's tried.
(Asking for myself, I fck with generic GH from random undergound labs)
 
Their price point is right on track for a small but efficient lab with email lists and no website.
So each is a 10ml vial. Just to reiterate what everyone is already saying. Making, say, their Test 300 vial about 3000milligrams of Test.
600mg a week would give you 5 weeks per vial.
 
Somebody should tell that lab Tren A is brand name Finajet, since he wrote PARABOLAN next to tren Hex.
 
It's remarkably cheaper for must people here compared to what I pay. This isn't the cheapest but it's not that bad. Primo is completely out of the question for me because I'd have to pay a redicilous amount.
 
Alchemist11 said:
South-east, Balkans... Here, legit Test 300 you can get for almost half of the price from this list
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These US Ugl’s do very well. There’s a highly regarded source here that guarantees highest quality but you’re going to pay $80 for almost any vial of oil. Almost worth the piece of mind sometimes. But I’m always looking for a new domestic that charges $55 or less for good gear. I remember Big D got arrested out of Florida and he’d made millions and millions of dollars selling his ugl gear. Black market is even worse. Guys that don’t buy online will pay $100 per vial easy.
 
I mean, there is quality differences, but it's not that drastic. High quality vial is maybe 5-7€ more than less quality vial...
 
Well doesnt this list look familiar lol

Test E has a half life of 8 days, you'll want to inject either once or twice a week (I do e4d). For a 10 week cycle at 600mg/wk you'll just need 2 vials of test and you'll be solid
 
Chados said:
Are you telling me that's too high?
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LMAO!!! I know better with you Sir! You are very reasonable when it comes to dosing from everything I have seen. I can tell you I won't ever approach that much test in a week. Pretty sure i would be a bloated, and volatile pain in the ass with high BP at that dose.

Shiznitzz said:
Well doesnt this list look familiar lol

Test E has a half life of 8 days, you'll want to inject either once or twice a week (I do e4d). For a 10 week cycle at 600mg/wk you'll just need 2 vials of test and you'll be solid
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I was pretty sure that Test E has a half life of 6 days from everything I have read, where did you get that information from? Not saying you are wrong, I have just never seen 8 days from anyone else or read it anywhere. Not that it matters too much.

I take my shots on Mondays and Thursdays normally Monday morning and Thursday evening. So about 3.5 days apart. For me it is just easier for it to always be on the same days, or doing an EOD set up. However for my TRT or a test e or c cycle it is as listed above.
 
MrKleen73 said:
:) I was looking and thinking HOLY CRAP he wants to run over 2000mg a week of test on his first cycle.....
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So you’re saying that’s too much??

Yeah I’m stocking up right now and plan to start in December. Just picked up some extra clomid and nolva. I’ll probably do final checkup thread before I start, being that this will be my first real cycle.
 
MrKleen73 said:
LMAO!!! I know better with you Sir! You are very reasonable when it comes to dosing from everything I have seen. I can tell you I won't ever approach that much test in a week. Pretty sure i would be a bloated, and volatile pain in the ass with high BP at that dose.



I was pretty sure that Test E has a half life of 6 days from everything I have read, where did you get that information from? Not saying you are wrong, I have just never seen 8 days from anyone else or read it anywhere. Not that it matters too much.

I take my shots on Mondays and Thursdays normally Monday morning and Thursday evening. So about 3.5 days apart. For me it is just easier for it to always be on the same days, or doing an EOD set up. However for my TRT or a test e or c cycle it is as listed above.
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This article says 10 days, other people may say 6 days with others saying 7 or 8, just looking at different articles on different websites. I think its safe to say 8 days but you may be right
 
The pharmacokinetic studies Ive read show the half life of enanthate and cyp as nigh on identical, at 4.5 days. And interestingly enough, thats close to most peoples Goldilocks pin schedule.
 
Nac said:
The pharmacokinetic studies Ive read show the half life of enanthate and cyp as nigh on identical, at 4.5 days. And interestingly enough, thats close to most peoples Goldilocks pin schedule.
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Hmm, well if thats the case then e4d is good enough

Plus I've noticed my test cyp and tren e peak between days 3 and 4 then peter off from there
 
Shiznitzz said:
Hmm, well if thats the case then e4d is good enough

Plus I've noticed my test cyp and tren e peak between days 3 and 4 then peter off from there
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Thing Ive learnt is that those half life numbers are averages over populations of tested users, ie they are not physical laws. So, you may tend to produce much less of the esterase that breaks down enanthate than I do, giving us both quite different halflifes of the drug in our bodies. Some guys can get by fine on every-10 day pins of testE, true story.
 
MrKleen73 said:
LMAO!!! I know better with you Sir! You are very reasonable when it comes to dosing from everything I have seen. I can tell you I won't ever approach that much test in a week. Pretty sure i would be a bloated, and volatile pain in the ass with high BP at that dose.
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2000mg is like catching me on a low day haha..

Jokes aside I've only really had one cycle that was a bit too much and that was the only cycle I didn't feel good on so lesson learned.
 
Chados said:
2000mg is like catching me on a low day haha..

Jokes aside I've only really had one cycle that was a bit too much and that was the only cycle I didn't feel good on so lesson learned.
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The stuff I see on some of these forums when I simply use Google(almost never here on AM though) just makes no sense to me.
I saw zero increase in LBM @50 Dbol a day over 40. None. What I did see was more lethargy, less appetite and less controllable water retention. If anything I’ll be using less gear next run of most orals. I haven’t ran over 300 Test a week since 2015. Been toying around with a high test cycle in the next few months. And when I say high, I mean 750.
I suck at this. And I grow like a weed on the low end of an intermediate cycle dosage.
All I see is more side effects, blood pressure increases and more irritability on high doses.

It looks like the guys that use their “minds” more hang around here.
 
Matthersby said:
The stuff I see on some of these forums when I simply use Google(almost never here on AM though) just makes no sense to me.
I saw zero increase in LBM @50 Dbol a day over 40. None. What I did see was more lethargy, less appetite and less controllable water retention. If anything I’ll be using less gear next run of most orals. I haven’t ran over 300 Test a week since 2015. Been toying around with a high test cycle in the next few months. And when I say high, I mean 750.
I suck at this. And I grow like a weed on the low end of an intermediate cycle dosage.
All I see is more side effects, blood pressure increases and more irritability on high doses.

It looks like the guys that use their “minds” more hang around here.
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Well you know how ego lifting is rampant in the gym. I have definitely seen the same with people carelessly pushing the limits on doses just out of ego. I want to be running what the big boys run... I want to run the high dose that I see all the loud braggadocios people who get lots of attention run... It is so much cooler to see someone running high dose stuff.

I mean look at Boston Loyd his entire schtick is high doses and shock value. He has a below average body for a bodybuilder, but everyone wants to try what he is trying because he is being the loudest and focusing on being sensational with his doses or practices to get more hits and more money.

Does he need all of that to build his body, not even close unless his receptors just suck...

Look at the low doses that John Meadows runs, hell he only used 25mcg of T3 during his prep where he won his procard... Boston would have probably been running 10x that amount.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well you know how ego lifting is rampant in the gym. I have definitely seen the same with people carelessly pushing the limits on doses just out of ego. I want to be running what the big boys run... I want to run the high dose that I see all the loud braggadocios people who get lots of attention run... It is so much cooler to see someone running high dose stuff.

I mean look at Boston Loyd his entire schtick is high doses and shock value. He has a below average body for a bodybuilder, but everyone wants to try what he is trying because he is being the loudest and focusing on being sensational with his doses or practices to get more hits and more money.

Does he need all of that to build his body, not even close unless his receptors just suck...

Look at the low doses that John Meadows runs, hell he only used 25mcg of T3 during his prep where he won his procard... Boston would have probably been running 10x that amount.
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I've read that an average person wont respond to more than 3.5 gr of gear. Maybe this changed from compound to compound but that's what I've read. Makes sense though cause I respond even at 300 and taking 3000 can't possible give me 10 times the gains if 600 doesn't even double it.
 
Chados said:
I've read that an average person wont respond to more than 3.5 gr of gear. Maybe this changed from compound to compound but that's what I've read. Makes sense though cause I respond even at 300 and taking 3000 can't possible give me 10 times the gains if 600 doesn't even double it.
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Exactly. You can only put on so much muscle in a period of time. When I start increasing doses and calories beyond reason, it’s just water and fat past a certain point.
 
Matthersby said:
Exactly. You can only put on so much muscle in a period of time. When I start increasing doses and calories beyond reason, it’s just water and fat past a certain point.
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Lets not forget the sides... they increase exponentially as doses increase over what is ideal for you while positive effects increase less and less per mg with higher doses.
 
I'm a believer in slowly upping your dose each cycle if you haven't seen gains.

From all my research 1.5-2 grams is the maximum for a cycle.

as far as trt, Iv been doing it over four years now, and Ive tried a lot of stuff, once every seven days, and had bloodwork, that didnt work well, on 100-mgs on day five my test went down to 275. 150 not much different. Ive done sub-q quite a bit and had bloodwork, and thats a timing thing , it drops off considerably after about 12 hours.

currently IM twice a week, every 3.5 days or so seems to work for me, feeling the best. so I last injected wednesday at around noon, actually before noon. today is saturday, three days later, and ill inject this evening, maybe ten to twleve before bed. That's almost exactly 3.5 days later.
 
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