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ZachH -

Have you ever run a "Cut" on *just* a caloric deficit and maybe Caffeine? You may want to do that for a month, and take meticulous measurements (Scale, Caliper, Tape Measure in Millimeters). That way you can get an average "weight loss per week". Then when you add a supplement, you'll know if it works, how much, and if the cost is worth it (as opposed to just dieting for a couple more weeks).
 
The_Old_Guy said:
ZachH -

Have you ever run a "Cut" on *just* a caloric deficit and maybe Caffeine? You may want to do that for a month, and take meticulous measurements (Scale, Caliper, Tape Measure in Millimeters). That way you can get an average "weight loss per week". Then when you add a supplement, you'll know if it works, how much, and if the cost is worth it (as opposed to just dieting for a couple more weeks).
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Oh yeah many times. Im a former fatty i lost over 90 lbs my first ever cut. 6 years later ive built about 40 lbs of lean muscle on since my first cut
 
ZachH said:
Oh yeah many times. Im a former fatty i lost over 90 lbs my first ever cut. 6 years later ive built about 40 lbs of lean muscle on since my first cut
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Cool. What are your average per week losses on the scale/caliper-tape? Say a "normal" 500-750 deficit.
 
Just so you know where im coming from... Here is a few years back vs. a year ago. Picture on the left i was about 245 picture on the right im at about 180. Im up to about 200 now, with way more lean mass than my leaner picture on the right.

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The_Old_Guy said:
Cool. What are your average per week losses on the scale/caliper-tape? Say a "normal" 500-750 deficit.
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Whenever i cut i like to take it slow. I aim for 1.5 to 2 lbs per week and adjust caloric intake if im not meeting those numbers. I always gain weight and lose weight super easy too as long as i just stick to my diet my fat usually melts off. And thats without all these crazy supplements. This will be my first ever cut with the addition of so many unnecessary extras, but im still excited!
 
ZachH said:
Just so you know where im coming from... Here is a few years back vs. a year ago. Picture on the left i was about 245 picture on the right im at about 180. Im up to about 200 now, with way more lean mass than my leaner picture on the right.

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Your transformation tho!!!! ????
 
Ricky10 said:
Yeah, I know but they expect it to be in at some point this week and available to ship. It is usually pretty safe to assume that won't happen. If Sparta has it in stock already, I would rather just purchase it directly from them and be done with it. I hate the waiting game..
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mine actually shipped out yesterday
 
The_Old_Guy said:
In the US, and depending on state of residence - we can get Ephedrine HCL behind the Pharmacy counter for about $10/30 doses (or less for Sulfate).
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Give me prices please..
Kaizen hcl in canada its 5$ for 50tabs
For 24mg x 100 dose about 300tabs also 30$
And without shipping, just for the Eph. .
But its the best price, that s very expansive if you import, shipping kill this game
I dont speak about restrictions....

The otc ephedrine in us, not good source, guaifenesin,,not hcl,,,
 
boulon said:
Give me prices please..
Kaizen hcl in canada its 5$ for 50tabs
For 24mg x 100 dose about 300tabs also 30$
And without shipping, just for the Eph. .
But its the best price, that s very expansive if you import, shipping kill this game
I dont speak about restrictions....

The otc ephedrine in us, not good source, guaifenesin,,not hcl,,,
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Primatene in the US *is* Hydrochloride. Bronkaid is Sulfate. I've taken 1000 kilos of Guifenison, but if you don't want it, fair enough. You can't import our Medications because they are semi-controlled. But if you somehow can, its about $10 for thirty, 25mg doses. Yea, not great, but its all we have that is legit. Canada won't ship here, and you need a Eph Test Kit if you order from the UK.
 
boulon said:
Why???? So difficult, i am french nothing here for us...
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Time to break out the guillotines again and show those *******s who think they have the right to control what you put into your own body how you feel about that.

They fancy themselves your "rulers" rather than your representatives.
 
ZachH said:
Just so you know where im coming from... Here is a few years back vs. a year ago. Picture on the left i was about 245 picture on the right im at about 180. Im up to about 200 now, with way more lean mass than my leaner picture on the right.

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Great work bro!!
 
ZachH said:
I read somewhere not to take ignite and assassinate at the same time? Or am i mistaken on that? CAN they be combined at same time and IF SO at what maximum dosage of each? Jebrook GNO

Also Diesel, thats why i said im not planning on taking it all at the same time. Definitely going to space it out snd possibly even save some for another cut.

What order should i run the topicals BLR exotherm, supernova and smolder? Or stack any of the three together/have an overlap period?
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I don;t know about the exotherm carrier but if its not specifically localized then you will block the other from absorbing.

You would want to revers it 0 SUPERNOVA, since it has ingredients that need to penetrate very deep to knock out 11b-HSD, THEN smolder, since it only needs to reach SUB-Q FAT, AND THEN exotherm, which is likely systemic and doesn;t even need to penetrate deep dermal layers,
 
dsade said:
I don;t know about the exotherm carrier but if its not specifically localized then you will block the other from absorbing.

You would want to revers it 0 SUPERNOVA, since it has ingredients that need to penetrate very deep to knock out 11b-HSD, THEN smolder, since it only needs to reach SUB-Q FAT, AND THEN exotherm, which is likely systemic and doesn;t even need to penetrate deep dermal layers,
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Youre the man appreciate it.


Also just picked up a good bit from chaos and pain line! Carnage, inferno, and cannibal claw. Lots of others too but that's it for fat burning
 
ZachH said:
Just so you know where im coming from... Here is a few years back vs. a year ago. Picture on the left i was about 245 picture on the right im at about 180. Im up to about 200 now, with way more lean mass than my leaner picture on the right.

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Dude. This is amazing. Just a question. How did you get rid of those M-b@@bs. Reason I ask is coz I have a friend struggling with it. He's considering surgery. I am keeping him away from surgery. Any tips?
 
jtmass said:
Dude. This is amazing. Just a question. How did you get rid of those M-b@@bs. Reason I ask is coz I have a friend struggling with it. He's considering surgery. I am keeping him away from surgery. Any tips?
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I was thinking the same thing. This usually requires some skin reduction surgery as well in these scenarios..

Not that there is anything wrong with that...
 
Ricky10 said:
HTGduck
Hey man....what is your feedback on the Hydra-Shred? I never actually bought it just because I have been spending way too much money on supplements. Would love to hear some feedback!
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Odd would be the best way to describe it. If I take it on the way to the gym I go into beast mode and really zone in. If I take it and sit down for a while I wanna take a nap. Doesnt make too much sense really.
 
HTGduck said:
Odd would be the best way to describe it. If I take it on the way to the gym I go into beast mode and really zone in. If I take it and sit down for a while I wanna take a nap. Doesnt make too much sense really.
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Wow...that is quite odd. What stim products have you taken in the past or recently. How would you rate your stim tolerance?
 
jtmass said:
Dude. This is amazing. Just a question. How did you get rid of those M-b@@bs. Reason I ask is coz I have a friend struggling with it. He's considering surgery. I am keeping him away from surgery. Any tips?
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Keep BF low, clean dieting and all my focus into incline chest training to really bring up those pecs. If i get above 15% BF you can still tell to this day im just prone to having fat in my lower chest. But staying lean with a huge upper chest has helped me tremendously and finally after years of training feel super confident in any tight fitting shirt style because my upper chest sticks out way further than my nipple area, so the whole man boob issue is non existent
 
Ricky10 said:
Wow...that is quite odd. What stim products have you taken in the past or recently. How would you rate your stim tolerance?
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Im pretty sensitive to stims. Also this is my first DMHA product
 
Ricky10 said:
Hmm...even more odd since you should be sensitive to it..
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But I have AMAZING workouts if I take it on the way to thw gym. Set a new PR on bench ... While in PCT. My buddy took a scoop and fell in love and ordered a tub
 
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