HELP! I'm a dumbass

bulkmuscle

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Long story short, I accidentally used my dbol powder when I was making my test. so now I've got dbol powder sitting in oil ba and bb.

I feel like a retard. Is there anyway I can salvage the dbol from this liquid?
 
i've heard of injectable dbol. i suppose you could still measure out the amount of drink it. what concentration is the dbol in? 250mg/ml? :rasp:
 
goddamn, that's some potent ****. i'm out of suggestions. the only injectable dbol i've seen was 50mg/ml. the chemical nerds might be able to help more.
 
the concentration is at 75mg/ml since its 3000mg in 39.5ml

but will it disolve? and do i even wanna inject this **** every day? :(

edit: i've been doing research on the toxicity of ingesting BA and BB. here's what i've got, anyone got any opinions?

ba toxicity:
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so doing the math, 2.25ml of BA in 150ml is 0.015ml of BA per ml? Correct?

and heres the BB:
Ingestion:
Considered relatively non-toxic to humans - but information on the human health effects from ingestion is limited. Animal studies indicate moderate toxicity from ingestion. Should be handled as a potential health hazard.
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It is widely used as a food preservative, normally as the sodium, potassium, or calcium salts and their derivatives especially in acid foods. Benzoate preservatives applications in foods, drugs and personal products are well established.
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i'd be ingesting 0.045ml of BA per ml.

these are really insignificant amounts
 
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I already posted in reply to this thread on another board.
The general idea is not to consume BA and BB as it melts plastic. So go ahead if u want, but no one here with a brain would recommend it, reguardless if u can show its not harmful in that dose. Why would u dot it..Its so cheap to get powders..
Lock this so everyone doesnt find reasons why its not harmful then go ahead and drink BA and BB everyday :)
 
its not cheap to get powders for me actually. dont be so ignorant to my evidence.

BA is a relatively non-toxic and non-corrosive liquid.

and BB is actually used as a flavorant and has extremely low toxicity to humans
 
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You sure you just cant evaporate the ba and bb? In the oven at 150 for a few hours? Obviously I'm no expert though.
 
bulkmuscle said:
its not cheap to get powders for me actually. dont be so ignorant to my evidence.

BA is a relatively non-toxic and non-corrosive liquid.

and BB is actually used as a flavorant and has extremely low toxicity to humans
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Your evidence, you said urself, has no real backing with humans, and showed damage in rats. Plus, ive watched it melt plastic filters. Thats not corrosive?
Dont be dumb and give this more plublicity then it already has. People like this end up in the doc's complaining then it makes it harder on us all in the long run.
Go ahead, I told u 2 different ways to solve your problem, and im the ignorant one?
Go ahead, drink up..
 
I know I told u this on the other forum as well, but for everyone else..
The combo of BA and BB, in 1ml of solution, is a very small amount as you said, however that 1ml sits in a filter during the filtering process. SO you have that same amount of BA and BB, that you would be ingesting everyday, MELT the filter it was in.
Im talking a matter of min's with this millipore filter. Whatmans didnt give me a problem, but I filtered 45mls, and transfered it into 2 small 20ml vials. Buy the time I was done, that filter smelt nasty, and left my finger print in it after it hardened up again. Once I washed it with water to check it out, it had ripples in it and my finger print was hardened into the melted plastic.
It wasnt SITTING inside ba and BB, and it wasnt overnight, so thats enough for me not to want to put that in my stomach everyday. Its more of the combo of BA and BB I think rather then the BA or BB itself. As the guy at sterile soultions told me that the BA and BB combo melts the plastic on the vaccuum filters. However they say it hasnt been a problem, but it does happen.
JUst use some common sense everyone, please..
 
thanks for your concern, BA has a reactivity with plastics, thats why it melted them, my stomach aint made of plastic so its okay :)
 
indeed. oh well, its still salvageable.

jason i dont know why you think ba/bb is so bad, you keep emphasizing how BA melts plastic, so why are you injecting it? surely it would MELT YOUR LEG since it melts plastic!!! come on man, you're arguements make no sense.
 
LOL...good point there bulk. Personally, I don't see why you can't use it orally. But then, I'm no propeller head either.
 
well the ba/bb/oil separated itself from the 151 so i just drained pretty much all of it out. it was a little cloudy so i imagine there was dbol powder in there, so im left with about 143ml and the concentration is somewhere in the 15-20mg/ml range.

gonna go with 2ml/day and if i feel its weak i'll try 3ml
 
bulkmuscle said:
indeed. oh well, its still salvageable.

jason i dont know why you think ba/bb is so bad, you keep emphasizing how BA melts plastic, so why are you injecting it? surely it would MELT YOUR LEG since it melts plastic!!! come on man, you're arguements make no sense.
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There is a difference. It is used widly in pharmacuticals.
Look at the bottle of BA from LeMelenge, read the label moron..
Just because you can find transdermals that dont cause skin damage, and contain BA, doesnt mean u can ingest it without having problems.
Im done talking to u because your too ignorant to see past your own view. U can pore ISO Alchohol on a open wound, and have no problems, try drinking it without getting a sick stomach. Same principle.
Woud u ever drink Clorophorm? No...But you can use it to purify out things like fillers in a tablet, to isolate the molecule u want, so when it evaporates your fine to mix it with water and drink it, rather then take a pill. THis is a method of extraction widely used. That doesnt mean Chlorophorm is fucking safe, jesus christ man..I cant beleive your mindset on something like this.
I make a big deal as to not have every person new to the scence drinking BA and BB without thinking about it because of ur stupid post. If you cant see thats the point, then you should even be doing what your doing. You PM me for help after telling me im ignorant, and make no sense..How stupid is that bro?? CMon now people, use your sense.
Anyone wanna drink chlorophorm be my guest, that doesnt mean u cant use it with somthing in another matter thats entering ur body and be safe.
 
Lemme make it clear for you. Look past what im saying to you, and your stupidity and lack of consideration for un-educated reading this post, and realize the point. Its not a very good practice, and it clearly says on countless labels, not to be ingested, sure u might get off fine with it a few times. WHo knows what your actually doing, as your studies themselves said that its toxic effects on humans is not very well studied.
You think doctors/companies label it not to be ingested for a reason?
Again, Just because taking it once or twice is fine, doesnt mean u can just do it whenever. My point was to steer everyone who doesnt take the time, or hasnt yet to think to educate themselves on the matter, clear from doing this. Which your doing nothing to help by saying its fine, and arguing with me. I personally dont care what you do, but id like to set it straight for everyone who doesnt know what they are doing..
 
my view? its scientific research. im not being ignorant, i read through the statements you've made and i've presented you with all the information you need to realize why your argument fails.

what does chlorophorm have to do with this? stay on topic. BA is used in food flavourings, pharmaceuticals(ointments, cough syrups). BB is used as a food preservative. why would they use, as you are implying, an EXTREMELY toxic chemical for these purposes?

im not trying to be a dick about it man, you've helped me a fair bit. you're just really emphasizing an arguement that holds no water. the extremely minimal amounts of these non-toxic chemicals is harmless.

you wanna argue with a toxicologist?

you have yet to present any evidence to argue against the facts i gave you. and that i restated again above in this post.

unless you have anything intelligent to say, i suggest you stop posting. your insults show your lack of maturity.

oh and i forgot to add that i removed about 95% of the ba/bb/oil mixture from the solution.
 
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Well im glad you think of yourself to be as accurate as a lab when u say u removed all the BA and BB, consider it was probably the oil u saw exiting the solution.
Like I said, REGUARDLESS, rather it can be safely used or not, your thread treats a normal homebrew as safe to drink everyday.
I said twice, my point was to not have everyone that doesnt know what their doing drinking the stuff all day long. Notice where I said it doesnt matter if its safe a few times, you dont know what your doing to urself in the long run as it hasnt been studied.
Clorophorm was an example of how somthing can be safe entering your body, and toxic at the same time, depending...If you failed to realize that you should get off your high horse. I could care less what your evidence shows because the only thing that matters to me is rather or not a substance like BA being ingested on a daily basic is safe for humans, when in fact it states that it hasnt been studied, and showed damage in rats. Therefore again, my point being not to be treating this carelessly like you are, and make an example for people who dont know what they are doing.
Please stop pointing out my examples, and trying to turn them around like im going off topic and ****. Its pathetic how you keep trying to comeback and make yourself look fine. I told you that isnt the point of all this. Its to help people refrain from the mindset of drinking this **** everyday, let alone a few different brews a day..My concern has nothing to do with the amount of toxicity, it was for the general idea involved..
Hence my point about clorophorm, its not a good GENERAL IDEA, do INGEST IT, EVERY-DAY..But it can be done safely.
A doctor might know somthing wont hurt you this time, but he wont recommend you drink it everyday, so please bring on your toxicologist's..You need to stop taking offence to everything and stop trying to look like you know it all bro. I obvisouly know alot more then you or you wouldnt have been asking me how to homebrew a week or 2 ago. So PLEASE, LISTEN, TO, THE, POINT, Its not a good idea to do everyday, ask any doctor and see what their response is. That is my point, it showed damage in rats, hasnt been studied greatly on humans, and melts plastic. End of story reguardless what else you find. It IS shown t o be corrosive, so you cannot say this is a non-corrosive substance. Just because its not corrosive to your muscle tissue, which it is, hence the pain after you inject, doesnt mean its not corrosive period. Tissue is different and will react differently to exposure. Think about this, not about the 1 website you found studies on it.
Stop replying now bulk, no one cares what studies you find, because most already know what they need to and have read them. For the thought of everyone who doesnt, stop making it look like candy when its not.
 
Oh and another thing, im not trying to attack u personally but I disagree with how you handle this, and am trying to make an example out of it.
There is pain in the muscle when you inject, the next day or so..Explain how the BA isnt being corrosive in a way?
There is redness and dryness in creams that contain BA, let alone flaking and cracking..Explain how it isnt corrosive in a way?
If it can do that to tissue, what do you think it does to your stomach line? LET ALONE YOUR THROAT/MOUTH!
I personally used a topical cream 3x a week, which contained it. It left me with redness, slight bleeding, cracking, peeling, horrible 2 months. I also inject my homebrews and get sore from concentrations of 5%, and even 3%..So there is some damage being done do a degree. Now the box with my creams said DO NOT USE MORE THEN EVERY OTHER DAY, to avoid excessive skin irritation. When I found out it was the BA causing it, it made me think twice even about injecting it due to what it did to my skin.
Now you can take a bath in it and have no problems, sure. But do it every day or everyother for that matter, and watch what happens.
Thats enough proof for me and everyone I know. So just dont take offence, I offered to help you remedy your problem, and I will help you in the future. Im just trying to get the idea of it all across as a negative one, for people who dont know what they are doing.
 
Dudes...I think we need a group hug here.

I see valid points on both sides, but who am I to say? I have no background in chemistry with the exception of learning how to make crack and methamphetamine (by the way, these were legal experiments). All I know is I'm here to learn and help out with what I can, as the other bro's here as well. Lets not lower our standards and have this thread become like ones on other boards out there.

Now, get ya a beer and give a hug! :cheers:
 
I agree, im done now, for those who learn what BA is for the first time they have my experiences and opinions. Thats all that matters.
Ill always help anyone out, and I have no personal feelings on forum topics, so no offence takin or givin Bulk.
Seriously bro, saying your lack of consideration blah blah, and your stupidity is referring to something I see in your posts, not calling u stupid!!!
However that sounded, you know what I mean LOL. It wasnt personal I was refering to what stood out to me as stupidity in the post.
RAR !
 
so what happened?

Did you drink it?
 
yeah

although i think it was underdosed, i didnt make strength gains as well as i did while on m1t.

either way, im up like 25lbs in my cycle so far
 
You drank it?? And you're not in the hospital?? :think: :D J/K...

25lbs in your cycle?? Wow...that's nice. Do you have a thread tracking your progress that I happened to miss?
 
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