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nevergoodenough

nevergoodenough

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I am looking to take off some extra fat I have sitting around (I'm about 8.5% bf right now) and I am very sensitive to stimulants, clen and ephedra really mess my heart up. I'm just curious to what users of the product have to say about it.
 
I am pretty sensitive to stims too and at about the same bf. I'll post how it goes for me after I've used it a while. Starting it in a few days.
 
HEAT doesnt stimulate as much as EC or have the same kind of effct as Clen in my experience.

HEAT is much more of a mood enhancer and appetite surpressant. Stack it with quercetin and the effects are amplified.
 
How about along the lines of fat loss? Clen did an amazing job burning up fat for me I just couldnt tolerate the shakes, does HEAT have similar fat burning capabilities?
 
Here is a log a ran of it. I have anxiety/panic issues myself, and I loved the stuff.

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My girl friend ran it and lost 8 lbs in two weeks. She was also very senitive to stimulants and she loved the "mental boost" it gave her.
 
Nope. Started her at 2 caps three times per day. I was worried about her being overstimulated (which she wasn't). But it is a tribute to the efficacy of HEAT.
 
The feedback on fat loss has been extremely good when people actually do measurements. Much of it better even than I expected.

Unfortunately, too many people just look feel tweaked with "thermogenics" so they "know it's working", and HEAT was purposely made not to be that way (not just for the subjective feeling, but because high NE centrally is bad for the adipostat, long-term). So, you don't get the people raving about it after just one dose like you do with Lipo-6 or something like that.

It is slowly but surely gaining in sales, as more fat loss feedback comes in and people start to understand how to use it and what to expect. Most of our products follow the same pattern. LipoDerm has been out for 4 years, and it has steadily increased in sales the whole time.

It is a complicated product. 99% of people just do not understand the significance of the dopamine to norepinephrine signalling "ratio" in the hypothalamus, or fatty acid oxidation vs. lipolysis, or long-term vs. short-term adipostat signalling.

Phenogen is a really cool product that works really, really well, but SesaThin outsells it like 10-1. But, Phenogen has also steadily increased in sales since its release, as feedback comes in and people start to understand the product a little.
 
It is a complicated product. 99% of people just do not understand the significance of the dopamine to norepinephrine signalling "ratio" in the hypothalamus, or fatty acid oxidation vs. lipolysis, or long-term vs. short-term adipostat signalling.
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I'm still making a post-per-day on BB.com to this extent...LoL


But people are increasingly starting to see the light. It really is a very good formula from everything but the 'tweak' side of things.
 
Even when I took a double dose with some caffeine I felt little stimulation, but I was in a damn good mood. Topped it off with a dip.
 
ryansm said:
Here is a log a ran of it. I have anxiety/panic issues myself, and I loved the stuff.

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I have the same problem and the reason I've steered clear of HEAT is due to the alpha-yohimbine. Plain Yohimbe give me anxiety that is really uncomfortable. Do you react to yohimbe the same way that I do?
 
have the same problem and the reason I've steered clear of HEAT is due to the alpha-yohimbine. Plain Yohimbe give me anxiety that is really uncomfortable.
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Y and Alpha-Y are entirely different central stimulants. We have had dozens of Y-sensitive users report that HEAT gave them no problems. So far I have heard from only two extremely sensitive individuals who had any anxiety reaction from alpha-Y, so it is EXTREMELY rare, considering the amount of HEAT we've sold in the past few months.
 
Loki said:
Y and Alpha-Y are entirely different central stimulants. We have had dozens of Y-sensitive users report that HEAT gave them no problems. So far I have heard from only two extremely sensitive individuals who had any anxiety reaction from alpha-Y, so it is EXTREMELY rare, considering the amount of HEAT we've sold in the past few months.
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I understand that. I was just looking for another data point :D
I may just have to try HEAT and see how it affects me I guess. I really did not like the feeling that plain Yohimbe gave me so I've been watching the feedback on the A/Y to see what's up. I have only seen a few logs where people were sensitive to regular Y and posted their results with HEAT. I'm pretty sensitive to all stims (1/4 tab of Vasopro gets me wired).
 
nevergoodenough said:
Thanks, I appreciate it.:thumbsup:
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3 caps 3 times a day isn't causing me any problems in terms of tolerance. Too early to tell on the fat burning effects.
 
tyramine is a competitive NE reuptake inhibitor. E/C spikes NE pretty high already; taking both at the same time jacks NE to an undesireable height, in our opinion.
 
Did anyone use the old lipo-6 with e/c in it? It had tyramine in it also, and i never really felt much difference , i still have half a bottle and plan on using it.
 
I've been on HEAT now for almost 2 weeks and so far I really like it, I definetly notice more energy but not the jittery kind and my mood has also improved. I've been doing twin peaks carb cycling diet for these two weeks so Im not sure how much fat loss can be attributed to diet or HEAT. But my fat loss is definetly impressive.
 
Not a lot of feedback, though you would indeed expect an increase because of the modest increase in dopamine and the increase in mood. The 4-5 people I have seen specifically comment when the subject was brought up said they did notice an increase.
 
blazinred said:
Did anyone use the old lipo-6 with e/c in it? It had tyramine in it also, and i never really felt much difference , i still have half a bottle and plan on using it.
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There is so much more tyramine in HEAT than there was in the old Lipo-6. Not even comparable: they have, like, 5mg in there per 2 capsules.
 
Par Deus said:
Not a lot of feedback, though you would indeed expect an increase because of the modest increase in dopamine and the increase in mood. The 4-5 people I have seen specifically comment when the subject was brought up said they did notice an increase.
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It's not bromo, but it certainly doesn't hurt. I don't think the stimulation is any different, but it does seem to help you last marginally longer, at least in my experience.


It's definitely not like ephedrine/cafffeine where a higher % of users notice problems when trying to fully get it up. No one has had that kind of experience on HEAT.
 
Loki said:
It's definitely not like ephedrine/cafffeine where a higher % of users notice problems when trying to fully get it up. No one has had that kind of experience on HEAT.
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ephedrine seriously constricted me to the point that i think it may have permanently destroyed some small capilaries in my man region due to blood deprivation. :frustrate

i'll never use ephedrine agian.
 
I've taken ephedrine and HEAT at the same time for a few social occasions, and absolutely love the combination. I was very alert, and really on top of my game, cracking jokes all night. Unfortunately I'm another one of those ephedrine prostate victims, so I definitely have to limit my ephedrine use nowadays or urinary issues tend to arise for myself.
 
I am exactly two weeks on as of today I have been stacking it with Rebound XT I can't say that I have lost much weight from it. But that's not what I was looking to do. I have been in the best mood when dosing and have become more vascular I wish I would have had calipers. I can see small losses of SAT around my belly but not much but I think I can attribute that to cardio.

My dosing was 6am, 12pm and 4pm. Equalling 6 caps total. Not eating at least 1.5 hours before and 1 hour after. No caffeine intake 4 days into dosing.

5'6 @ 176lbs at 15%
Diet around 2300 calories a day. (I do I.T. work and am at a computer all day short of doing lunges up and down cubes a couple times a day... not up much)
Down about 3 pounds in two weeks...

These are all so far.. still two weeks left...

Fat loss is minimal
Mood is EXCELLENT!
Great sense of well being
Motivation and focus to work on projects is through the roof...
 
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