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HBCD & EAA/Peptapro log. Breezy & DW journey to ELITE

The Engineer said:
Good tip is to deplete glycogen and go low carb for a few days by doing high rep HIIT style workouts. That should help with insulin sensitivity.
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I'm in prep right now so I'm always low carb lol. But yeah I do incorporate HIIT quite a bit.
 
kbayne said:
I'm in prep right now so I'm always low carb lol. But yeah I do incorporate HIIT quite a bit.
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Looking super lean too. I saw your pic the other day. Nice work.
 
breezy11 said:
Looking super lean too. I saw your pic the other day. Nice work.
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Thanks bro. 9 days out now. Continuing to see differences by the day in the physique.
 
kbayne said:
Thanks bro. 9 days out now. Continuing to see differences by the day in the physique.
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the last days are the best and most noticeable changes! Best of luck. Enjoy those carbs coming up lol
 
kbayne said:
Thanks bro. 9 days out now. Continuing to see differences by the day in the physique.
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Awesome man. Let me know if you need help with anything.
 
kbayne said:
I'm in prep right now so I'm always low carb lol. But yeah I do incorporate HIIT quite a bit.
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Lyle McDonald's fat loss protocol 2 is the literally the most potent fat burning workout this side of the milky way.

If you're in prep mode I highly recommend you take a look at it. If you want, pm me and ill screenshot the layout for you.
 
Here's tonight's arm session.



DB Isotension Destroyer Set / Bench Dips superset
4 supersets as shown in the video

-curls: palms kept up, elbows kept forward slightly

-dips: slow eccentric/explosive concentric on the 1st 10 of 15 reps


3rd superset: These are tough. I dropped the weight on the final set to make it through with decent form.

[video=youtube_share;iq3FywWuZsk]http://youtu.be/iq3FywWuZsk[/video]



Dual Rope Pushdown/Kickbacks / EZ Bar Curl superset
4 sets of 10 / 8 + 6 partials

-pushdowns: cable set 1/4 of the way down from top, bent over 45 degrees at waist, elbows pinned to sides, 1 sec flex at peak contraction


Lying BB Triceps Extensions / Reverse BB Curls
4 sets of 12 / 15


-extensions: bar slowly lowered to forehead, pressing to just shy of lockout

-30 second tricep/bicep stretch between each set
 
This morning's session was chest/shoulders "pump". It feels great to have calories and carbs on the rise. :thumbsup:


HS Incline 5-4-3-2-1 Press
3 sets


Banded Smith Incline Multi-Pause Bench
4 sets working up in weight with a wide grip drop + partials on the final set (no pause)

-constant tension/no lockout

1st, 2nd, and drop sets:

[video=youtube_share;lV4jqpWnntk]http://youtu.be/lV4jqpWnntk[/video]




Slight Incline DB Flye-Press
4 sets of 10 with a 30 second weighted stretch on the final set



Incline DB Swing Destroyer Set
60 reps, cut weight in half, 30 reps, cut weight in half again, 10 reps using full ROM and hard flex



Seated DB Side Laterals / Spider Crawls
4 sets of 10 / failure

-slight lean forward to involve rear delts


4th set:

[video=youtube_share;CMkTeJSJL94]http://youtu.be/CMkTeJSJL94[/video]
 
breezy11 when you run one of your mini-diets, do you drop cals pretty drastically since its just for the short term? One would think you could get away with some pretty drastic changes for a week or two before the metabolic adaptations began to truly set in
 
Swolbraham said:
My nightmare: just dropped my tub of PeptoPro. **** me <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108308"/>
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Scoop what you can, lick the rest. Or cut out the square of carpet and just eat it.
 
The Engineer said:
Lyle McDonald's fat loss protocol 2 is the literally the most potent fat burning workout this side of the milky way.

If you're in prep mode I highly recommend you take a look at it. If you want, pm me and ill screenshot the layout for you.
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i agree with this, all of his books are fantastic as well

booneman77 said:
Scoop what you can, lick the rest. Or cut out the square of carpet and just eat it.
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if i didn't have a dog i would, black dog hair and peptopro isn't as anabolic :(

but my vacuum just grew biceps... weird
 
Swolbraham said:
i agree with this, all of his books are fantastic as well if i didn't have a dog i would, black dog hair and peptopro isn't as anabolic :( but my vacuum just grew biceps... weird
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All I think of when I get dog hair in my food is that myostatin dog you always seen in ads ha. I assume dog hair = massive gains
 
Just got done catching up!

Good thread so far men. We're possibly looking into toying with HBCD, so I'm Def following along for results.

Quick question to all dudes in this thread - where have you found the cheapest PeptoPro? I want to pick up bulk HBCD and Pepto to start trying it out for myself. We generally use Gatorade, Leucine and aminos at the station. But I think I want to try out some bulk HBCD, PeptoPro, Leucine and HICA.
 
I go with TrueNutrition as well. And I use breezy's code also....I have my own but I'm too lazy to look for it so I just hook my man up.

I actually just put in a huge order in.

Peptapro
HBCD
EAA
Whey Isolate
Karboload
Whey saver

The nice thing is you can order a few flavors of each and practically pay the same per lb.

Like I got 8lbs of HBCD but have 4 flavors (each 2lbs)

And 4lbs of peptapro and 2 diff flavors
 
Distilled Water said:
Banana cream
Fruit punch
Orange cream
Very berry strawberry
Vanilla

Choc pb cup WPI
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Word, I picked up the very berry strawberry HBCD. How's that flavor?
 
Swolbraham said:
I've been just getting vanilla so it's neutral and my EAA's flavor it. i wana try Cookie Dough PeptoPro so bad lol
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I will try cookie dough anything. Literally I would prob try gravel if it had cookie dough powder on it.
 
booneman77 said:
breezy11 when you run one of your mini-diets, do you drop cals pretty drastically since its just for the short term? One would think you could get away with some pretty drastic changes for a week or two before the metabolic adaptations began to truly set in
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I actually dropped cals pretty slowly over 4-5 weeks, just making small diet adjustments as I went. I got down to around 4000 cals, then hit 3500 for 3 days and called it quits because I was losing weight way too fast.

Swolbraham said:
My nightmare: just dropped my tub of PeptoPro. **** me

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108308"/>
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Yikes.


Spaniard said:
Just got done catching up!

Good thread so far men. We're possibly looking into toying with HBCD, so I'm Def following along for results.

Quick question to all dudes in this thread - where have you found the cheapest PeptoPro? I want to pick up bulk HBCD and Pepto to start trying it out for myself. We generally use Gatorade, Leucine and aminos at the station. But I think I want to try out some bulk HBCD, PeptoPro, Leucine and HICA.
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Thanks dude. That'll be a solid intra drink. Mines very similar, as I add Amino IV with its high Leucine content and HICA


Swolbraham said:
True Nutrition is where I get mine, i believe Breezy has a discount code as well
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Yup.

booneman77 said:
Here's the code Spaniard
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Thanks man.


Distilled Water said:
Banana cream
Fruit punch
Orange cream
Very berry strawberry
Vanilla

Choc pb cup WPI
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I have banana cream, vanilla, and banana strawberry for TN HBCD, and orange mango glycofuse as well. Current Peptopro flavors are vanilla and banana cream. My bulk EAAs are unflavored and Watermelon Amino IV tastes great with any of the flavor combinations.

I placed a huge order last week, but am making another tomorrow because I'm starting to burn through everything quick with carbs up.


booneman77 said:
I will try cookie dough anything. Literally I would prob try gravel if it had cookie dough powder on it.
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It doesn't matter what flavor Peptopro is, it'll still taste awful by itself. My intra is actually pretty tasty with everything else in the mix though. I believe HBCD may "trap" most of the bitterness.
 
Spaniard said:
Word, I picked up the very berry strawberry HBCD. How's that flavor?
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I've never trained any if these flavors actually lol.

I pretty much a Mango & Peaches and cream guy for the past year but they're out of both flavors

Got sour apple Karboload. Also have watermelon, watermelon is ok
 
Swolbraham said:
Wow banana + watermelon amino IV sounds fantastic
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It's delicious. :)





Here's tonight's back "pump" session.



Low Rows
4 sets of 10 working up in weight to 200lbs

-4th set included drops in 20lb increments for 8 reps with 20 seconds between each (180x8, 160x8, 140x8, 120x8, 100x8)

-supinated close grip attachment

-hard flex




Reverse Wide Neutral Grip Pulldowns
4 sets of 10

-chest arched

-hard flex




Slight Incline Elevated Lying Rack Rows
4 sets of 8-10 working up in weight

-explosive

-2 second flex/hold

3rd set:

[video=youtube_share;Sx5_FDQWzWc]http://youtu.be/Sx5_FDQWzWc[/video]






Prone BB Rack Shrugs
3 sets of 12

-3 second flex/hold

3rd set:

[video=youtube_share;2p4DXx6ZQSE]http://youtu.be/2p4DXx6ZQSE[/video]





Straight Arm Rope Pulldowns / Chest Supported Rows
3 sets of 12-15 / 8-10 working up in weight

3rd set: running out of gas

[video=youtube_share;uw--3OoUNP8]http://youtu.be/uw--3OoUNP8[/video]
 
It's been a busy few days, but training is going well. The last 3 sessions were legs, chest/shoulders, and back.


The highlights of heavy leg day were safety bar squats with chains and Bulgarian split squats.


Chest/Shoulders

Machine Press
worked up with sets of 8 until failing to get 8


Incline DB Press
4 sets of 8 working up in weight



Reverse Band Slight Incline Bench
5 sets of 5 with a slow eccentric, pause, and full ROM
2 sets of 8 with an increased incline, wide grip, and constant tension

5th and 7th sets: My chest was smoked at this point, but these felt great.

[video=youtube_share;MzJSEnYleiA]http://youtu.be/MzJSEnYleiA[/video]



Wide Grip Partial Dips with Chains
3 sets to failure with a drop on the 3rd set

-working bottom half of movement

[video=youtube_share;qTFXRfUtFb4]http://youtu.be/qTFXRfUtFb4[/video]




Seated Bent-Over DB Swings / Band Pull Aparts
4 sets of 25 / 10



DB Lateral Raises
4 sets of 8

-strict form/40 seconds rest



Banded Seated DB Press
3 sets of 10 with a drop (just bands) on 3rd set

[video=youtube_share;4odh8BeJXZY]http://youtu.be/4odh8BeJXZY[/video]
 
Back

One Arm BB Row
3 warm-up sets (15,12,10) to get to working weight
3 working sets of 8

-strict form/ "flexing" during eccentric


3rd working set: You can't really tell from watching the video, but I made an effort to keep flexing my back throughout the eccentric portion of the movement. The pump it caused was intense and it helps prevent you from simply moving the weight to reach the prescribed number of reps. This approach is great with DB bench press as well, if you can handle dropping the weight a little.

[video=youtube_share;rOSEFEVoSCA]http://youtu.be/rOSEFEVoSCA[/video]




Dead-Stop Smith Rows
2 warm-up sets of 12 and 10
3 working sets of 8

2nd warm-up and 3rd working sets: I love these, as I can contract my entire back hard. They don't require a ton of weight to be effective and you'd most likely benefit less by trying to push the weight.

[video=youtube_share;_dMZLUayLg4]http://youtu.be/_dMZLUayLg4[/video]




DB Shrugs
3 sets of 12 working up in weight

- 3 second flex/hold
-15 second weighted stretch at the end of each set




Side Facing Single Arm Supinated Pulldowns
3 sets of 10

[video=youtube_share;atQ6IbOOZQE]http://youtu.be/atQ6IbOOZQE[/video]




DB Pullovers
3 sets of 12



Banded Hyperextensions
3 sets adding a band to each and a triple drop on the final set

3rd set:

[video=youtube_share;4yW2BcCtgUk]http://youtu.be/4yW2BcCtgUk[/video]
 
Training chest/shoulders was a success!!!! Minimal pain in my elbow and shoulder and no swelling today. It was a pretty light workout. No intensity techniques used. Just straight sets

DB flat Bench
40x15
50x15
60x15
70x15
80x15
90x15

Hammer Incline
3 sets 225x20

Flat Chest Press Machine
3 sets of 12

Pec Minor Dips
2 sets BWx15
-SuperSet
Band Over and Backs

Seated DB Side Laterals
6sets
15x15

Added some carbs back in as well. Somehow weight is down .5lbs lol
 
My intra mix on heavy days

100gr Highly Branched Cyclic Dextrin
30gr Peptapro
5gr SNS L-Leucine
6gr SNS Citrulline Malate
500mg Sea Salt
1gr SNS Agmatine Sulfate

On pump/light days the carb/protein will be cut in half.

I'll try and do a food journal for you guys too, gotta eat to grow!!!!

Carbs will be increasing slowly as the weeks progress starting peri and moving out away from workouts. Breakfast will always be a carb free meal. I'm addicted to coffee, OxyElite Protein and coconut oil and it's helped keep me lean this year so I'll keep it.
 
Distilled Water said:
My intra mix on heavy days

100gr Highly Branched Cyclic Dextrin
30gr Peptapro
5gr SNS L-Leucine
6gr SNS Citrulline Malate
500mg Sea Salt
1gr SNS Agmatine Sulfate

On pump/light days the carb/protein will be cut in half.

I'll try and do a food journal for you guys too, gotta eat to grow!!!!

Carbs will be increasing slowly as the weeks progress starting peri and moving out away from workouts. Breakfast will always be a carb free meal. I'm addicted to coffee, OxyElite Protein and coconut oil and it's helped keep me lean this year so I'll keep it.
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Are you still running your morning fat burning stack of yohimbine, tta, tyrosine, etc?
 
booneman77 said:
Are you still running your morning fat burning stack of yohimbine, tta, tyrosine, etc?
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Great question! I just stopped that this week actually. Amazing how much more of an appetite I have now without the Yhcl.

Still walking the puppies and taking my Focus-XT in the morning. Walks will probably be getting shorter and shorter as winter approaches. No matter how bundled up the Yorkie gets, little man is gonna freeze. When it's under 40 now he's a shivering snail
 
Distilled Water said:
My intra mix on heavy days

100gr Highly Branched Cyclic Dextrin
30gr Peptapro
5gr SNS L-Leucine
6gr SNS Citrulline Malate
500mg Sea Salt
1gr SNS Agmatine Sulfate

On pump/light days the carb/protein will be cut in half.

I'll try and do a food journal for you guys too, gotta eat to grow!!!!

Carbs will be increasing slowly as the weeks progress starting peri and moving out away from workouts. Breakfast will always be a carb free meal. I'm addicted to coffee, OxyElite Protein and coconut oil and it's helped keep me lean this year so I'll keep it.
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i've got a similar protocol, breakfast is Orange Triad + Greens, Coocnut Oil, and Protonz of choice

how much will your intra differ on now heavy days? I ask because I've just been keeping it consistent between my strength predominant days and my hypertrophy based days (Similar to PHAT Almost)

60g HBCD
10g PeptoPro
20ishg of EAA (2.5 scoops Amino IV or 2 scoops Anabolic State)
1g SNS Agmatine as well

may add some Cit to it as well
 
Swolbraham said:
i've got a similar protocol, breakfast is Orange Triad + Greens, Coocnut Oil, and Protonz of choice how much will your intra differ on now heavy days? I ask because I've just been keeping it consistent between my strength predominant days and my hypertrophy based days (Similar to PHAT Almost) 60g HBCD 10g PeptoPro 20ishg of EAA (2.5 scoops Amino IV or 2 scoops Anabolic State) 1g SNS Agmatine as well may add some Cit to it as well
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I just cut it to about 50HBCD/15gr Peptapro or 15gr EAA. I did that yesterday and I feel 100% today.
 
i may try keeping it consistent just for simplicity's sake. still a bit doms after legs yesterday, but i am running XGels as well.
 
Swolbraham said:
i may try keeping it consistent just for simplicity's sake. still a bit doms after legs yesterday, but i am running XGels as well.
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I don't think any amount of intra will totally saw you from ara doms
 
Distilled Water said:
Side note:I'm grocery shopping and running other errands.....

2 scoops iForce MassGainz
1 cup egg whites
8oz almond milk

Damn, it's pretty tastey and way easy. Vanilla cake batter is what I have. :thumbsup:
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I already mentioned this to you, but Select Snickerdoodle with Nuts n' More Toffee PB is amazing. Looking forward to a big shake later.


I drank my intra on the side of the road, waiting for AAA. Radiator broke and today looks like an unplanned non-training day.
 
breezy11 said:
I already mentioned this to you, but Select Snickerdoodle with Nuts n' More Toffee PB is amazing. Looking forward to a big shake later. I drank my intra on the side of the road, waiting for AAA. Radiator broke and today looks like an unplanned non-training day.
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I sent the GF on a mission to find the nuts n' more. There's a ton of health good stores by her work. Need to nab some select. I probably will after I run out of OEP
 
Distilled Water said:
Pink Lemonade is my go to. Haven't tried any other
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PL and cotton candy are my favorites. Pina Colada is pretty good too.

Distilled Water said:
I sent the GF on a mission to find the nuts n' more. There's a ton of health good stores by her work. Need to nab some select. I probably will after I run out of OEP
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Nice. I've only had toffee pb and choc almond, which are great. You'll like Select. There should be a great insider deal when the new flavor is ready to go.
 
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