havoc / epistane yes or no

havoc or epistane yes or no

  • yes

    Votes: 212 91.4%

  • no

    Votes: 20 8.6%
  • Total voters
    232
is it just me or is it slightly odd that the biggest supporters of epi happen to be reps of the company that makes it? I'm just wondering, not at all trying to start anything. i'm new to the forums so i'm sure there is more to it...

oh ya and my epi is in the mail, I hope to see the same results I've been hearing about :P
 
jomi822 said:
its worth giving a shot.

the only side effect i can truly complain about is the lethargy. stuff is like godamn m1t in this regard

other than that, its packin on weight very quickly and the stength gains are certainly coming along.

you might want to go with it simply for its safety profile
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Agreed. The lethargy was a *****.

Edit: I 've only used Havoc. I slimmed down while gaining 6 pounds...not bad 'tall.
 
guyrelax said:
is it just me or is it slightly odd that the biggest supporters of epi happen to be reps of the company that makes it? I'm just wondering, not at all trying to start anything. i'm new to the forums so i'm sure there is more to it...

oh ya and my epi is in the mail, I hope to see the same results I've been hearing about :P
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I think what you will find that the majority of users don't neccessarily post in threads like this.Search the logs for people that have used it. I have found very few negative reviews for this product though some have aggravated their 'gyno' with it.

Seek and ye shall find....if you can't find anything the search must be broken.

Amor Est Vitae Est Essentia,

Neoborn
 
what pct are you planning on runnig? im on my 5th day of methyl e ( which is the same thing) and i was planning on running an anti e ,like rebound xt and the a Testosterone booster like post cycle support.. do you think that would be ok for a 4 week cycle?
 
You can find the answers you need from a few different places, a couple being:

1. Results from pulsing on this board

or

2. Neoborns Epistane FAQ Q and A baby! again here on this board


:gotsearch
1. Go to "Search"
2. Click on "Advanced Search"
3. Enter your search terms that you want to find threads on
4. Change the drop down to "Titles Only"
5. Click "Go"

You can use this method to find anything on these forums. You will be surprised how many people have discussed this topic before.
 
Epi treated me great. Awesome strength and good weight gain and I stayed lean the entire time. BUT the only thing that killed it for me was the hair loss I got from it, to this day it hasnt grown back to how it was. I lost some hair in top back part of my head. If it weren't for that I would have used this so many more times.
 
Listen it mite just be me but i took 2 bottles of 90count Havoc and got shreaded not to metion i stacked it with Omnevol. I have been doing some research on Ph and the strongest one i found was Superplex so thats prolly what i will do next.
 
mmowry said:
M1t,4AD,test,tren,methyl D The feeling of wellbeing and strong sex drive/function coupled with gyno reduction As opposed to aggitation was another outstanding benefit.
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I know this is an old thread, but that is hillarios, that you are saying it is beter than 4ad, test, and tren. If in fact that is what you are saying.
 
T-Bone said:
I know this is an old thread, but that is hillarios, that you are saying it is beter than 4ad, test, and tren. If in fact that is what you are saying.
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What if in his opinion that is the truth?

I believe he was saying out of all of those products he got the best libido boost etc with Epistane, is that too much for you to believe?

If we were to take the similar route with you we would say "all methyl PH's / Steroid products people use lead to liver failure" this is just not true, but it is true for you no?
 
used them both-like EPI better-what type of AI is EPI ?[steriodal antiestrogen?] thats what they call its parent compound---could have sworn I heard it called a serum on this board :think::think::think:
 
epi flared up my gyno at 20mg a day. so i would have to say no. it sucked for me. no gains. nothing
 
i havent taken epi myself but my mate has he got bad lethargy and cramps with it but with using tourine he was able to lessen the cramping:head:
 
T-Bone said:
I know this is an old thread, but that is hillarios, that you are saying it is beter than 4ad, test, and tren. If in fact that is what you are saying.
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I've heard similar statements from people I know/respect with regards to libido and no sides on EPI.... FWIW
 
Using epi right now because i have heard really good things about it. And there are far fever side effects than many of the prohormones.
 
I used this in 2007 and I experienced the same things - great mood all the time, great sleep, intense attitude - wanted to be in the gym all the time. I really liked Epi a lot.
 
On Havoc now and have to agree that I want to be in the gym whenever I can. Just have to tell myself I NEED rest. Been trying to do 2 on, one off, then 3 on, one off
 
Hey all,
Just wondering, new to all this. Never done a steroid before. Im 24 now, a bit overweight, and most of my extra weight is in my chest and abs area. Seems like mostly genetics, but I also took creatine and deflated when i was in high school. Currently I only take NO Xplode (which I feel is a great supplement), and multivitamin, sometimes proteing shakes.

Enough about me. I saw this thread and was wondering if taking something like Epistane might help me lose that extra weight around my chest, and puffy nips. Is this technically a Anabolic Steroid? And would I need to do an Anabolic Inhibitor after using it?

Sorry dont really know that much about this sort of thing, so any help would be great.

Ive also been looking at Novedex XT. Seems like it does similar things. I just dont wanna screw up my hormones. But I do feel I have a testosterone deficiency.

Thanks again. Sorry for long post.
 
Trinstop said:
Hey all,
Just wondering, new to all this. Never done a steroid before. Im 24 now, a bit overweight, and most of my extra weight is in my chest and abs area. Seems like mostly genetics, but I also took creatine and deflated when i was in high school. Currently I only take NO Xplode (which I feel is a great supplement), and multivitamin, sometimes proteing shakes.

Enough about me. I saw this thread and was wondering if taking something like Epistane might help me lose that extra weight around my chest, and puffy nips. Is this technically a Anabolic Steroid? And would I need to do an Anabolic Inhibitor after using it?

Sorry dont really know that much about this sort of thing, so any help would be great.

Ive also been looking at Novedex XT. Seems like it does similar things. I just dont wanna screw up my hormones. But I do feel I have a testosterone deficiency.

Thanks again. Sorry for long post.
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I don't think it would be good to jump into using steroids right away. You seem cautious and humble, which is why I'm posting this. The thing that gave this away for you is "sometimes protein shakes." If your going to use Epistane, you should be in your 5+ year of lifting with alot of 'natural' experience under your belt.

I would say focus on diet and training right now. Look into natural products like creatine, vitamin, BCAA/EAAs. Hope this helps!
 
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