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3 caps of bear strength mentabolon 15mgs per cap...nada..nothing..does it take a few days? Cant imagine it would.
 
swimfan65 said:
Umm..i dont need drugs to be motivated to go hard...im just wired that way..blood and guts every training session. And wtf would you shut yourself down and screw up your liver to for a little more aggression?
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I wish I was the same way... if I forget my PWO before heading to work, gym following, I just don’t go lol!! And 25-50mg of halotest 1-3 days a week won’t screw up your organs and I don’t pct anymore so shut down isn’t a concern. I prefer oils which don’t kill my stomach either way.... 1 mg mtren in oil and ZOOS daft pump or OG mesomorph is my go to
 
LGTWHIT said:
I wish I was the same way... if I forget my PWO before heading to work, gym following, I just don’t go lol!! And 25-50mg of halotest 1-3 days a week won’t screw up your organs and I don’t pct anymore so shut down isn’t a concern. I prefer oils which don’t kill my stomach either way.... 1 mg mtren in oil and ZOOS daft pump or OG mesomorph is my go to
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Sorry, but if you cant workout without something then this may not be for you
 
I don't know, I just make sure there's drugs in my system all day if I can.

The only preworkout drugs I'm really into need to be administered before training in order to be maximally effective, hexarelin for instance. I don't need anything to put me in the mood. I'm always horny to lift.
 
I don't know, I just make sure there's drugs in my system all day if I can.

The only preworkout drugs I'm really into need to be administered before training in order to be maximally effective, hexarelin for instance. I don't need anything to put me in the mood. I'm always horny to lift.
 
3 caps of bear strength mentabolon 15mgs per cap...nada..nothing..does it take a few days? Cant imagine it would.
 
Tomorrow ill try 4 caps pwo. **** i took 750mcgs of oral tren today too...oh and i shot 500mgs of test e...i upped my test to a gram a week. I was looking jacked as hell, had to answer a bunch of questions from the little fellas...but i literally felt no different. I was looking forward to the libido boost...that never happened...but pounded her out anyway. Hell im always at least kind of horny, and my girl is good for twice a day...shes a trooper.
 
Maybe this is why they stack the cheque drops with the methyl tren rather than oral Trest and methyl tren. Maybe the tren overpowers it... I mean you're a massive superhuman being, that's true, but still.

Now don't anybody tell me it turns oral tren isn't methylated tren dammit. I don't need that kind of negativity in my life. Plus, I'm damn sure it is.
 
Maybe this is why they stack the cheque drops with the methyl tren rather than oral Trest and methyl tren. Maybe the tren overpowers it... I mean you're a massive superhuman being, that's true, but still.

Now don't anybody tell me it turns oral tren isn't methylated tren dammit. I don't need that kind of negativity in my life. Plus, I'm damn sure it is.
 
Old Witch said:
Maybe this is why they stack the cheque drops with the methyl tren rather than oral Trest and methyl tren. Maybe the tren overpowers it... I mean you're a massive superhuman being, that's true, but still.

Now don't anybody tell me it turns oral tren isn't methylated tren dammit. I don't need that kind of negativity in my life. Plus, I'm damn sure it is.
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Yeah could be. However, you really cant feel the oral tren..i mean kind of..pumps and a little more aggression. You know you are on it because of dramatic strength increases and the way your body changes by the day. At 325, my waist is a 36..down from 38. I was just expecting the trest to knock my socks off.
 
swimfan65 said:
3 caps of bear strength mentabolon 15mgs per cap...nada..nothing..does it take a few days? Cant imagine it would.
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Probably just your personal drug response homie. You’re a big guy for one, and the Mtren may be overpowering the mentabolan, but I really expect it’s just individual differences. How Tren makes you crazy, etc.

LGTWHIT said:
I wish I was the same way... if I forget my PWO before heading to work, gym following, I just don’t go lol!! And 25-50mg of halotest 1-3 days a week won’t screw up your organs and I don’t pct anymore so shut down isn’t a concern. I prefer oils which don’t kill my stomach either way.... 1 mg mtren in oil and ZOOS daft pump or OG mesomorph is my go to
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DemntedCowboy said:
Sorry, but if you cant workout without something then this may not be for you
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I would say I’m more like Whit. I think it has to do more with personality types. I am naturally lazy and relaxed, not high energy and productive. I enjoy and lift better with external stimulation like caffeine, music, hormones, shouting.

Should you be able to lift on an empty stomach, no sleep, no supplements or coffee, no equipment, no music, alone? Sure, and I think anyone who’s been doing this for years likely has at points out of necessity - but I don’t see any harm in spicing it up.

Music especially makes training much more cathartic for me - sometimes it’s just background noise while I’m working, but sometimes it’s therapy!
 
swimfan65 said:
Yeah could be. However, you really cant feel the oral tren..i mean kind of..pumps and a little more aggression. You know you are on it because of dramatic strength increases and the way your body changes by the day. At 325, my waist is a 36..down from 38. I was just expecting the trest to knock my socks off.
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Mentabolan.

Mentabolan definitely packs a punch (for most).

I prefer oral Trest preworkout, but I can't deny the strength of Mentabolan.
 
swimfan65 said:
Now im confused...arent they the same? If not explain products that are oral trest
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No, they are different.

Mentabolan is a PH to Trest. But don't let that fool you. They are both very individual compounds, and both very strong (according to most of us, anyway. LOL)
 
OL made (makes) Tr3st caps, Vicious Labs made Blood Drops, Brawn made Trest caps. All of those are oral Trest.

Some people get confused because another term for Trest is Ment. But Mentabolan is not "Ment" (and is therefore also not Trest)
 
Renew1 said:
OL made (makes) Tr3st caps, Vicious Labs made Blood Drops, Brawn made Trest caps. All of those are oral Trest.

Some people get confused because another term for Trest is Ment. But Mentabolan is not "Ment" (and is therefore also not Trest)
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I couldnt find any place that carried those...all sold out
 
Renew1 said:
No, they are different.

Mentabolan is a PH to Trest. But don't let that fool you. They are both very individual compounds, and both very strong (according to most of us, anyway. LOL)
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Some might actually say mentabolan will rip your head off harder than Trest. Mainly because of fun side effects I've heard so much about. I've also seen that the dosage between them tends to favor the strength of mentabolan. mentabolan is invariably dosed lower than Trest products (like tr3st)

Like I said to some other guy that other time, try taking 75mg of each and tell me what you think is stronger.

I believe Renew1 gave the best advice when he said "No, don't." About taking that much mentabolan vs that much Trestolone.
 
swimfan65 said:
Yeah..well bear doesnt do squat for me..nothing at all
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Part of me is kinda not surprised, given youre on the mtren too right? Im not sure how much of an extra boost the mentabolan would give. I dunno. Could see it going either way.
 
swimfan65 said:
Well how could you take that without making an injectable solution...i dont have the equipment
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Trest is orally active. You could do whatever you choose to do with the powder....inject (after properly prepping it), TD, or oral ingestion.
You would just need a good set of scales.
 
swimfan65 said:
I couldnt find any place that carried those...all sold out
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Cobra Mass at advanced supps is the only capsules I know of still on the open market. No board sponsors carry it & it’s not illegal so I don’t think there’s any harm in saying that.

45mg/cap & $75/bottle if you get 2
 
Hyde said:
Cobra Mass at advanced supps is the only capsules I know of still on the open market. No board sponsors carry it & it’s not illegal so I don’t think there’s any harm in saying that.

45mg/cap & $75/bottle if you get 2
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Where did you find that deal?
 
Go to their site and search Cobra Mass. it’s 99.99 and below you can add a second to cart for 49.99, or one of their other designers
 
Hyde said:
Cobra Mass at advanced supps is the only capsules I know of still on the open market. No board sponsors carry it & it’s not illegal so I don’t think there’s any harm in saying that.

45mg/cap & $75/bottle if you get 2
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MedFit RX makes a Trestolone Sublingual tablet, they're at flex it nutrition I believe along with the rest of MedfitRX stuff, including the methyl tren nasal spray they make.
 
Old Witch said:
MedFit RX makes a Trestolone Sublingual tablet, they're at flex it nutrition I believe along with the rest of MedfitRX stuff, including the methyl tren nasal spray they make.
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Oh I forgot about them! They’re also sold at the store I mentioned, but I basically write them off due to prices.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
Renew - if i plan on doing a half marathon this summer, which compounds are best to avoid around that time? I have heard Tren is hard on the body and creates a cardio deficit ... what about others? Are there some that could actually give me a boost, such as regular old test?
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Honestly, if it were me... I would avoid most anabolics near that time.
You know that guy who wins all those marathons..... You know, the huge jacked one? LOL, me neither. Putting on a lot of mass in a short time might not be good for marathons in general.
Some runners use Winstrol, but it is mainly sprinters.

GW comes to mind as a possible benefit.

But I'm not really "a runner".

Let me say this.... Normally I tell people to Google it. But be careful on this one. I put it in, and WOW! It is almost like people were competing to give the worst answers to this question. Worst answers ever. LOL.

There are some runners on this site. Maybe you could start a thread like: "Distance Runners" or something, if you're interested.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
yeah - thats why i asked

i recall lance was taking test and erethropetin (spelling? blood doping agent) when he won the 7 or 8 tour de france titles ... and i hacve never heard of endurance athletes taking anything other than a blood doping or test to get an advantage. But with all other things (any steroid, any PH) I am in the dark when it comes to the details

I did buy a couple bottle of GW ... still on the fence about that. I keep seeing cancer risks etc and it gives me pause. I also have SR9009 and i thonk that should give some kind of boost but again - i would like to hear real world feedback from those who have tried this.

Its only a half marathon and a 10k. its not a "huge" stressor but like i said i have heard some things like tren really put people in the ****ter in terms of energy and edurance
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Every steroid will enhance endurance just that tren while (on it) seems to be different. You're at your best about 2 weeks after taking gear and not actually while on it. Epo is something they take because it's much more effective for stamina than steroids and growth hormone. I'm not an expert on let's call it stamina doping but I'd assume they take certain things to avoid getting caught like low dose testosterone. Some steroids like anavar that wouldn't add much size can give massive cramps while practising and same with anadrol. Short distance runners have been caught with winstrol but I doubt it'd optimal for a marathon.
 
Renew1 said:
Honestly, if it were me... I would avoid most anabolics near that time.
You know that guy who wins all those marathons..... You know, the huge jacked one? LOL, me neither. Putting on a lot of mass in a short time might not be good for marathons in general.
Some runners use Winstrol, but it is mainly sprinters.

GW comes to mind as a possible benefit.

But I'm not really "a runner".

Let me say this.... Normally I tell people to Google it. But be careful on this one. I put it in, and WOW! It is almost like people were competing to give the worst answers to this question. Worst answers ever. LOL.

There are some runners on this site. Maybe you could start a thread like: "Distance Runners" or something, if you're interested.
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You already covered winstrol my bad :D
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
yeah - thats why i asked

i recall lance was taking test and erethropetin (spelling? blood doping agent) when he won the 7 or 8 tour de france titles ... and i hacve never heard of endurance athletes taking anything other than a blood doping or test to get an advantage. But with all other things (any steroid, any PH) I am in the dark when it comes to the details

I did buy a couple bottle of GW ... still on the fence about that. I keep seeing cancer risks etc and it gives me pause. I also have SR9009 and i thonk that should give some kind of boost but again - i would like to hear real world feedback from those who have tried this.

Its only a half marathon and a 10k. its not a "huge" stressor but like i said i have heard some things like tren really put people in the ****ter in terms of energy and edurance
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Yeah stay tf away from tren. When I was gassed up on Trenavar (Trendione) by the time I got to the meet I would wind so easily I actually got out of breath LAYING DOWN IN BED TO SLEEP the night before comp. The next day warming up for squats I had to have my gf load my plates...so I could do singles. She’d pull me up off the chair, I’d hit a single, sit back down while she loaded the next plate & I wiped the pouring sweat off my brow.

Tren is for bodybuilding and powerlifting, where next to zero fitness is required. CrossFit, strongman, weightlifting, running/triathlete... there are better options.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
Renew - if i plan on doing a half marathon this summer, which compounds are best to avoid around that time? I have heard Tren is hard on the body and creates a cardio deficit ... what about others? Are there some that could actually give me a boost, such as regular old test?
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I run a bit.....GW definitely helps for distance.

I actually find that mk has huge benefits for recovery (if you are doing a lot of miles the knees can take a battering) and didn’t seem to adversely affect it.

I might run a marathon next year and my plan was always to run ex for that.

Its worth getting lean af before the race so something like var finishing plenty of time before the race could get rid of any excess fat whilst maintaining your lean mass. Being lean makes the biggest difference over distance imo
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
yeah - thats why i asked

i recall lance was taking test and erethropetin (spelling? blood doping agent) when he won the 7 or 8 tour de france titles ... and i hacve never heard of endurance athletes taking anything other than a blood doping or test to get an advantage. But with all other things (any steroid, any PH) I am in the dark when it comes to the details

I did buy a couple bottle of GW ... still on the fence about that. I keep seeing cancer risks etc and it gives me pause. I also have SR9009 and i thonk that should give some kind of boost but again - i would like to hear real world feedback from those who have tried this.

Its only a half marathon and a 10k. its not a "huge" stressor but like i said i have heard some things like tren really put people in the ****ter in terms of energy and edurance
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Watch Icarus documentary on Netflix. Its about a Russian olympic coach who was working w an American cyclist setting up cycles for him. He actually did worse on gear than when he wasnt on it. He couldnt figure out why but also came to the conclusion someone like lance Armstrong wasn't the best because he used peds. He had the gift and ability to be the best and also used peds. Some guys are just on another level to begin with.

Anyhow I reccomend you watch it,if youve never seen it... Interesting story as well. The doctor basically now lives in the US in hiding bc Russia wants him dead for speaking openly about Russia's ped use in the Olympics.
 
Godstrength said:
Watch Icarus documentary on Netflix. Its about a Russian olympic coach who was working w an American cyclist setting up cycles for him. He actually did worse on gear than when he wasnt on it. He couldnt figure out why but also came to the conclusion someone like lance Armstrong wasn't the best because he used peds. He had the gift and ability to be the best and also used peds. Some guys are just on another level to begin with.

Anyhow I reccomend you watch it,if youve never seen it... Interesting story as well. The doctor basically now lives in the US in hiding bc Russia wants him dead for speaking openly about Russia's ped use in the Olympics.
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Well Armstrong wasn't the only one doping. If he would have been without it he wouldn't win even according to himself. Great documentary though. This is the is the Russian guy they based a study upon for letting Jones fight in the ufc. A study that even rodschenkov claims could find metabolites for 60 days but usada finds it 18 months later. Usada got some explaining to do.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
how much were you taking at the time and for how long???
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120-210mg for 8 weeks. If I recall right, 2 weeks at 120, 4 weeks at 150, and a week each of 180 & 210mg. This was OL Tr3n.

IF it converts to trenbolone at around 30%, that would be like taking 30-60mg tren Ace per day.
 
Hyde said:
120-210mg for 8 weeks. If I recall right, 2 weeks at 120, 4 weeks at 150, and a week each of 180 & 210mg. This was OL Tr3n.

IF it converts to trenbolone at around 30%, that would be like taking 30-60mg tren Ace per day.
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Well you'd also have to take in to account that is has to pass the liver which would be breaking it down to less than that.
 
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