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Harshest orals best/worst list !

Hey now..a svelt 320..i can even see some abs. But yeah..IM tren kicks my ass..bad..real bad. Love what it does, but you could have me comitted after a few weeks. IMO IM tren is for guys that get paid to do this. Yeah ive won money at PL meets..but I get better strength increases from anadrol and test
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
oral trest was the worst side effect wise?
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No. Of that group (for me) the worst side effects wise was Halotestin, then Mentabolan, oral Trest, and TNE.

TNE did not have any bad sides for me, but it's half life is incredibly short.
The other 3 can come with serious sides.
 
I think I might actually try oral Trest... 19 nors are somewhat virgin territory for me. I know a lot about using them and somewhat how they affect me.. A ton I haven't tried though.
 
swimfan65 said:
Exactly...not even sure why this drug is on the radar...there is no reason to take it. It was made for female dogs.
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It'll make you chew someone's head off (or ear off LOL).
But for most of us, that isn't beneficial.
 
Old Witch said:
I think I might actually try oral Trest... 19 nors are somewhat virgin territory for me. I know a lot about using them and somewhat how they affect me.. A ton I haven't tried though.
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My bear strength arrives tomorrow my friend...i will also be new to this. 15mgs per cap of oral trest. Im going to do 45mgs pwo...ill let you know
 
Well I can get big piles of raw Trest, so I guess I might give that a whirl soon.
 
Old Witch said:
Well I can get big piles of raw Trest, so I guess I might give that a whirl soon.
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You probably know this... They're all different in effects...
IM Trest, Trest Ace TD, Trest base TD, and Trest oral.
Each of those differs from the others in effects. And I listed them in descending order of Anabolic potentcy (IMO).
 
swimfan65 said:
Line up some rails and take it to the face then...that otta work pretty good. Lol
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Looking like Tony Montana with a big pile of Trestolone on my desk just shoving my face into it...

Come to think of it, the rest of that scene would have been exactly the same if that were the case...
 
Renew1 said:
You probably know this... They're all different in effects...
IM Trest, Trest Ace TD, Trest base TD, and Trest oral.
Each of those differs from the others in effects. And I listed them in descending order of Anabolic potentcy (IMO).
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Yeah..IM is something stupid like 1600 or something...oral is still 500/500 which is the same as IM tren...plus it was cheap. To run IM effectively is going to cost you...unless you can the trest deca
 
Old Witch said:
Looking like Tony Montana with a big pile of Trestolone on my desk just shoving my face into it...

Come to think of it, the rest of that scene would have been exactly the same if that were the case...
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If you brew a big batch let me know
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
where does the 7 Alpha transdermal rank?
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I ranked the 2 Trest TDs that I've tried.

In terms of Anabolic growth potential (IMO)..
The more effective would be Trest Ace TD (which you might find for sale sometimes from a lab).
And next would be Trest base TD (which you more routinely see "mass produced". Like OL).
 
Just finished 3wks of M1T to kick off this cycle. Gained 11-12lbs in 20 days and strength rocketed up 10lbs a week at least on anything and everything. 15mg first week then 22.5mg weeks 2 & 3. Such an excellent ride; worth the lethargy.

Halotestin I only had enough to use like 16mg for 2 weeks - very unimpressed. Boladiol at 8mg was far and away the best preWO I’ve used for competition aggression, and it’s very affordable. Halotestin is a huge waste of money.
 
Hyde said:
Just finished 3wks of M1T to kick off this cycle. Gained 11-12lbs in 20 days and strength rocketed up 10lbs a week at least on anything and everything. 15mg first week then 22.5mg weeks 2 & 3. Such an excellent ride; worth the lethargy.

Halotestin I only had enough to use like 16mg for 2 weeks - very unimpressed. Boladiol at 8mg was far and away the best preWO I’ve used for competition aggression, and it’s very affordable. Halotestin is a huge waste of money.
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Wow ive heard the exact opposite about halo. I know it doesnt offer any size gains at all...but strength and aggression are supposed to be pretty unmatched.
 
Hyde said:
Just finished 3wks of M1T to kick off this cycle. Gained 11-12lbs in 20 days and strength rocketed up 10lbs a week at least on anything and everything. 15mg first week then 22.5mg weeks 2 & 3. Such an excellent ride; worth the lethargy.

Halotestin I only had enough to use like 16mg for 2 weeks - very unimpressed. Boladiol at 8mg was far and away the best preWO I’ve used for competition aggression, and it’s very affordable. Halotestin is a huge waste of money.
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Sure it wasn’t bunk? My lab rat meddled with halo for a week and it blew him outta the water. First dose was even pure electric.
 
My option for orals are

Dbol
Tbol
Anavar
Proviron
Winstrol
Anapolon
Halotestin

Renew1 and old witch have already been top guys and guided me away from halo. Whats the views on these? I’m currently on tbol and will be more than likely moving to anavar on my next cycle.
 
Sheriff Morri said:
My option for orals are

Dbol
Tbol
Anavar
Proviron
Winstrol
Anapolon
Halotestin

Renew1 and old witch have already been top guys and guided me away from halo. Whats the views on these? I’m currently on tbol and will be more than likely moving to anavar on my next cycle.
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Depends on your goals... For cutting, I think var and winstrol are good choices. For bulking, I think tbol and dbol are better. I prefer tbol because I don't have to fight estrogen swings. However I am sensitive to estrogen, if I weren't I would probably prefer dbol. For making you super strong and aggressive before a powerlifting event/ MMA fight.....halotestin
 
RickyBlobby said:
Depends on your goals... For cutting, I think var and winstrol are good choices. For bulking, I think tbol and dbol are better. I prefer tbol because I don't have to fight estrogen swings. However I am sensitive to estrogen, if I weren't I would probably prefer dbol. For making you super strong and aggressive before a powerlifting event/ MMA fight.....halotestin
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Oh nice breakdown brother.

I’m always looking for the lean gains and ones that will be retained after the cycle.
 
I'd say tbol and var should give you roughly the same amount of keepable muscle, with the slight nod going to tbol. WIth the added cost of var, you could run a higher dose of tbol for the same money too. I'm sure 80 MG of tbol would blow 50mg var out of the water, and at those doses the cost would be roughly the same.

Basically you will look bigger on tbol but look tighter and more aesthetically pleasing on var, MG for MG
 
The #1 thing to keep in mind though, is diet will dictate how you look much more than the drugs you are taking. Not sure how your diet looks but that needs to be in check before you add (waste) drugs
 
swimfan65 said:
Wow ive heard the exact opposite about halo. I know it doesnt offer any size gains at all...but strength and aggression are supposed to be pretty unmatched.
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SkRaw85 said:
Sure it wasn’t bunk? My lab rat meddled with halo for a week and it blew him outta the water. First dose was even pure electric.
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Only time I’ve ever tried it - could definitely have been underdosed, but I remember feeling aggression and energy so I don’t think it was just rice flour or anything. Definitely didn’t get stronger on it.

But it’s about as expensive as orals get. Boladiol from NOS Labs was like $20/bottle and works like clockwork.
 
RickyBlobby said:
The #1 thing to keep in mind though, is diet will dictate how you look much more than the drugs you are taking. Not sure how your diet looks but that needs to be in check before you add (waste) drugs
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Yeah my diet has been pretty solid and I always eat homemade food (by myself as the wife could burn water) I’ve always been protein heavy and fat and carbs are pretty even depending on how I’m training or what activity or resting that day.

I carry 15-20%bf and was considering a cut using clen or tiromel at some point to aim for the 10-15%bf bracket
 
Sheriff Morri said:
Yeah my diet has been pretty solid and I always eat homemade food (by myself as the wife could burn water) I’ve always been protein heavy and fat and carbs are pretty even depending on how I’m training or what activity or resting that day.

I carry 15-20%bf and was considering a cut using clen or tiromel at some point to aim for the 10-15%bf bracket
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Right on. I just don't want you to expect miracles if your diet isn't lined up with your goals.
 
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