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Hanging out on the Westside

Rodja said:
I was able to got the suit on without the briefs, but not with them on. I might have to try open the legs up a bit and stretch them out with a basketball.
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I did that many a time. Added a half inch to the opening of my suit before I traded it. Took a few days tho.
 
Rodja said:
8/20 ME Lower

Sumo
Worked up to 585x1 (PR)

Squat
Worked up to 645x1 (PR)

Ab Wheel/Standing Band Crunches (light)
10/15
10/15
10/15
10/15

It's been about 15 hours since I finished this session and I am still tired from it. I used my Ace suit without briefs again and went straps up on the final set of both sumo and squat. I attempted 605 on sumos, but my grip gave out and the DL bar was really starting to bite at that weight. For the squat, I did 645 twice; the first time was slightly ugly as my knees went slightly forward and the bar started to roll on my back. The second time, though, looked and felt much better. I kept the straps loose as to ease myself into the bite that they have starting at about 1/3 of the way down. In the past 2 months, I've gone from a 440 raw squat to an equipped 645 squat while being only about 8# heavier now and still learning how to harness the suit. Barring injury, I should be able to break 685 by the end of the year and, possibly, 715-725 by the meet in April.

My original plan of October has been scrapped to get more experience in the gear as I still haven't gone fully briefed and suited with only 5-6 training weeks left. I have decided that I will be competing at 220, though, and will not be cutting a significant amount of weight (5-8# at the most).
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Nice jumps in strength. Someone was built for gear ya? lol. Hows the IF going, still doing it? How about supps? Last I saw you only used creatine and protein lol.
 
SweetLou321 said:
Nice jumps in strength. Someone was built for gear ya? lol. Hows the IF going, still doing it? How about supps? Last I saw you only used creatine and protein lol.
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I had to drop the IF recently to a more traditional style of eating since the geared training sessions take so long and my schedule has changed a bit recently. Supps that I'm taking right now are Na-RALA, Erase Pro, Cissus, fish oil, rhodiola, and protein. I'm also blasting right now with 500mg E, 400mg Deca, and 16mg of Ultradrol. I'm sitting at ~220 right now and am still pretty dry in the mornings, but that changes by the end of the day.
 
Rodja said:
I had to drop the IF recently to a more traditional style of eating since the geared training sessions take so long and my schedule has changed a bit recently. Supps that I'm taking right now are Na-RALA, Erase Pro, Cissus, fish oil, rhodiola, and protein. I'm also blasting right now with 500mg E, 400mg Deca, and 16mg of Ultradrol. I'm sitting at ~220 right now and am still pretty dry in the mornings, but that changes by the end of the day.
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You blast and cruise at 28 yrs old dude?
 
^ I was not ostracizing you nor was I belittling you. I was simply asking a question brother. I am happy for your gains in strength they are phenomenal.. Maybe one day you'll break the 1000lb squat, you're not far off.
I just thought 28 yrs old was pretty young to be consistently on test for the rest of your lifting career, is all.
All the older powerlifters i've talked to regret that they started using test in their 20's, and have advised me to wait till im 30 at least..
Seems everybody these days is jumping on test really young though.

if you don't mind me asking, how long have you been blasting and cruising for? and how long do you intend to do continue that for? (like i said i'm not looking down on you my friend, these forums are for research and learning, and that's what i'm here to do)
 
aceroni said:
^ I was not ostracizing you nor was I belittling you. I was simply asking a question brother. I am happy for your gains in strength they are phenomenal.. Maybe one day you'll break the 1000lb squat, you're not far off.
I just thought 28 yrs old was pretty young to be consistently on test for the rest of your lifting career, is all.
All the older powerlifters i've talked to regret that they started using test in their 20's, and have advised me to wait till im 30 at least..
Seems everybody these days is jumping on test really young though.

if you don't mind me asking, how long have you been blasting and cruising for? and how long do you intend to do continue that for? (like i said i'm not looking down on you my friend, these forums are for research and learning, and that's what i'm here to do)
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Most of the guys that I've talked to start in their early 20's as the numbers keep getting higher and higher these days. My old coach goes up to Westside every 6 months or so and the doses that they use up there are insane and would ***** some BB'ers.

As far as my usage goes, I started B/C this year in mid-January and the doses I've used are moderate (500mg E, 400mg Deca) and I only blast in the Deca for 12 weeks or so for tendon relief. I was cruising at 250mg E for at least half of the time there all while still seeing strength gains while I was still raw. Once I got in my briefs, though, I started to blast up and will be at these doses (for the injectables at least) until mid-to-late October. The plan is to B/C until the meet in April and then end. The goal is to total elite as I should be starting PT school next June and I highly doubt that my training will be consistent enough to enter a meet for quite some time.
 
Like I said Rodja, I completely respect what you're doing man.

But yes dude I've been watching this log, and as you have become more accustomed to your PL gear, your numbers have skyrocketed, that **** is impressive.

As far as dosages I really don't know much at all, about the numbers or if those are high or low relatively speaking..
Do you think doing a 9 month b/c will make the pct more rough than a traditional 2-4 month cycle, or because it is b/c will it not be as bad?

And I've said it before but I'll say it again. I have much respect for you bro, keep it up. I wish you the best of luck into your meet- (injury free)
 
8/21 DE Upper

Speed Bench (monster minis)
135x2x10

Incline BP
185x8
205x6
205x6

Inverted Rows (BW)/Band Pressdowns (Average)
10/15
10/15
10/15
10/15

Seated DB Cleans/Pullaparts (mini)
20x10/15
20x10/15
20x10/15
 
aceroni said:
Like I said Rodja, I completely respect what you're doing man.

But yes dude I've been watching this log, and as you have become more accustomed to your PL gear, your numbers have skyrocketed, that **** is impressive.

As far as dosages I really don't know much at all, about the numbers or if those are high or low relatively speaking..
Do you think doing a 9 month b/c will make the pct more rough than a traditional 2-4 month cycle, or because it is b/c will it not be as bad?

And I've said it before but I'll say it again. I have much respect for you bro, keep it up. I wish you the best of luck into your meet- (injury free)
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My dosages are more in line with someone just starting out with AAS than someone with my levels of experience and numbers. I make no illusions that recovery will not be fun once I do finally get off, but I plan to taper down to somewhat assist with the transition rather than just abruptly stopping.
 
8/22 DE Lower

Box Squats (14", doubled mini bands)
315x2x9

GM
225x8
245x6x4

Standing Cable Crunches/Lying Leg Curls
120x15/180x15
120x15/180x15
140x10/200x10
150x8-drop-120x10/200x10-drop-140x10

Had to train three days in a row this week because of a kink in my work schedule and I am definitely much more fatigued than usual right now. Numbers were good and I made sure to have a nice obtuse angle, but my speed was not where it needed to be on the box squats.
 
Rodja said:
8/22 DE Lower

Box Squats (14", doubled mini bands)
315x2x9

GM
225x8
245x6x4

Standing Cable Crunches/Lying Leg Curls
120x15/180x15
120x15/180x15
140x10/200x10
150x8-drop-120x10/200x10-drop-140x10

Had to train three days in a row this week because of a kink in my work schedule and I am definitely much more fatigued than usual right now. Numbers were good and I made sure to have a nice obtuse angle, but my speed was not where it needed to be on the box squats.
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Good work rodja.. Damn strong on those GM.. Do you ever do standing abs with a band for resisting tension?
 
What do you see from the rhodiola? Your blast looks simple and controlled. The deca was a good choice. Is ultradrol good? Btw what you say about westside is true. Their dosages are up there, but I guess thats what a 1000lb squat takes.
 
SweetLou321 said:
What do you see from the rhodiola? Your blast looks simple and controlled. The deca was a good choice. Is ultradrol good? Btw what you say about westside is true. Their dosages are up there, but I guess thats what a 1000lb squat takes.
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It helps my sleep quality and mood. I like UD a lot in that it is dry and adds a solid amount of LBM with low sides, but I waited too long to stock up on it. At this point, I don't see a point to increasing my dosages until I hit a solid, year-long plateau and even then I will adjust programming before I turn to a substantial increase in dosage.
 
Rodja said:
It helps my sleep quality and mood. I like UD a lot in that it is dry and adds a solid amount of LBM with low sides, but I waited too long to stock up on it. At this point, I don't see a point to increasing my dosages until I hit a solid, year-long plateau and even then I will adjust programming before I turn to a substantial increase in dosage.
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I love hearing this. Kids these days, don't see gains and hop on a cycle/ up the dose faster than I get up to piss in the morning, and honestly it's pathetic.
If your program sucks and your dedication is lacking, so will your gains.

Respect rodja
 
aceroni said:
I love hearing this. Kids these days, don't see gains and hop on a cycle/ up the dose faster than I get up to piss in the morning, and honestly it's pathetic.
If your program sucks and your dedication is lacking, so will your gains.

Respect rodja
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Thank you.

Small training update:
I've come down with a small URI and have decided to back off for a week or so. Going from raw to geared over the past couple of months has been extremely fun, but I know that it was dropping a major bomb on my CNS and that I needed to be cautious with too much too soon. My sleep quality last week was extremely poor and I could see some negative effects from it starting last Wednesday when my DE lower session not only lacked the usual pop off of the box that I have, but how tired I was after I finished.

I was planning a deload for this week so I am not too crushed by this and I'd rather err on the side of caution than stubbornly push through and exacerbate things. I went to the gym on Friday to drop off a single-ply shirt and, for ****s and giggles, I went through a normal warm-up for my bench days. It took longer, but I loosened up and felt locked in on the day. However, I still decided to pull the plug as I did not know how much I realistically had in the tank for the day.
 
Rodja said:
Thank you.

Small training update:
I've come down with a small URI and have decided to back off for a week or so. Going from raw to geared over the past couple of months has been extremely fun, but I know that it was dropping a major bomb on my CNS and that I needed to be cautious with too much too soon. My sleep quality last week was extremely poor and I could see some negative effects from it starting last Wednesday when my DE lower session not only lacked the usual pop off of the box that I have, but how tired I was after I finished.

I was planning a deload for this week so I am not too crushed by this and I'd rather err on the side of caution than stubbornly push through and exacerbate things. I went to the gym on Friday to drop off a single-ply shirt and, for ****s and giggles, I went through a normal warm-up for my bench days. It took longer, but I loosened up and felt locked in on the day. However, I still decided to pull the plug as I did not know how much I realistically had in the tank for the day.
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It sucks but you have to listen to your body brother.. Every time I've been hurt is because i've ignored a slight tweak and went after it..
What does uri stand for?
I guess it wouldn't hurt to take the week off of heavy lifting, and focus heavily on smr / stretching/ mobility work. I'm sure you already do these, but look up shoulder circuit on elitefts.com, really great shoulder prehab
 
aceroni said:
It sucks but you have to listen to your body brother.. Every time I've been hurt is because i've ignored a slight tweak and went after it..
What does uri stand for?
I guess it wouldn't hurt to take the week off of heavy lifting, and focus heavily on smr / stretching/ mobility work. I'm sure you already do these, but look up shoulder circuit on elitefts.com, really great shoulder prehab
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Upper Respiratory Infection
 
Yicks on the infection man. I had a uti not to long ago. Eased off training and cleaned it up. Some times you just gotta do what you gotta do.
 
8/28

Squats
Worked up to 505x2
405x5

Standing Cable Crunches
120x15x4

Got in some easy work since I was starting to get stir crazy. The weight felt really light even though I haven't been eating and resting like I should be right now.
 
Still getting my feet back underneath me over the past few days and have been underloading for the past two sessions. Hit 405 on bench and 515x3 on both squat and sumo, but none of them were true ME. One thing that I can definitely say is that I need to pick up the conditioning as I'm having trouble keeping up my usual pace.
 
9/4 RE Upper

Flat DB Press
80x15
90x12
100x9
100x8

T-Bar Rows
180x12x5

Dips/Neutral Pullups (BW)
15/8
15/8
15/8

Facepulls/Overhead Rope Extensions
70x15/70x15
70x15/70x15
70x15/70x15

DC Stretches

The goal for this day was to get in some solid work and I accomplished that. Chest and back strength is slightly down from where it was a couple of months ago, but that isn't too surprising considering I slightly backed off of the assistance work and really focused on the ME.
 
9/5 DE Lower

Sumo (80# chain)
315x2x10

GM
235x10
255x8
285x7 (PR)

Hypers (BW)/Standing Band Crunches (Average)/Bulgarian Split Squats
15/15/15
15/15/15
15/15/15
15/15/15

Prowler (90#)
25Mx10 (5 horizontal, 5 vertical)

Felt absolutely amazing today; easily the best that I have felt in weeks. My speed on sumos never slowed and may have even improved slightly with each set as I really found a groove with my arch. After taking some time off from really hitting both assistance work and conditioning, this starts the beginning of reincorporating both of them into the routine. I feel like my CNS has adapted to the huge increase in weight from using gear as my sleep and mood have both improved recently.
 
Rodja said:
9/5 DE Lower

Sumo (80# chain)
315x2x10

GM
235x10
255x8
285x7 (PR)

Hypers (BW)/Standing Band Crunches (Average)/Bulgarian Split Squats
15/15/15
15/15/15
15/15/15
15/15/15

Prowler (90#)
25Mx10 (5 horizontal, 5 vertical)

Felt absolutely amazing today; easily the best that I have felt in weeks. My speed on sumos never slowed and may have even improved slightly with each set as I really found a groove with my arch. After taking some time off from really hitting both assistance work and conditioning, this starts the beginning of reincorporating both of them into the routine. I feel like my CNS has adapted to the huge increase in weight from using gear as my sleep and mood have both improved recently.
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Good to hear brother. Glad you're back in the game.
Good friend of mine just opened a new strength training facility. Mono lift, power rack, deadlift platform, two competition benches, ghr, reverse hyper, prowler, sled, three dead bars, three eight foot squat bars, ssb, cambered squat bar, Swiss bar, three bench bars, dumbbells up to 150, even that funky bamboo stability bench bar, all sorts of chains, bands, etc.. he's even planning on getting another power rack, another mono, and another forza bench...
Sorry to hijack, i'm just excited and figured you guys would appreciate it..
Correction, Very excited. Time to get strong
 
aceroni said:
Good to hear brother. Glad you're back in the game.
Good friend of mine just opened a new strength training facility. Mono lift, power rack, deadlift platform, two competition benches, ghr, reverse hyper, prowler, sled, three dead bars, three eight foot squat bars, ssb, cambered squat bar, Swiss bar, three bench bars, dumbbells up to 150, even that funky bamboo stability bench bar, all sorts of chains, bands, etc.. he's even planning on getting another power rack, another mono, and another forza bench...
Sorry to hijack, i'm just excited and figured you guys would appreciate it..
Correction, Very excited. Time to get strong
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I'm so jealous. I wish my gym had more bars as I know that I will need the variety pretty soon.
 
Rodja said:
I'm so jealous. I wish my gym had more bars as I know that I will need the variety pretty soon.
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Yeah brother, the different bars are nice to keep squatting fresh and keep hitting it from different angles, also nice to avoid over use injuries
 
9/7 ME Upper

Bench
405x3x4 (3-board)

HS Rows
135x15
160x10
160x10
180x8

Tate Presses/Side Laterals
35x15/35x15
50x10/35x15
55x8 (PR)/35x15

I changed the position and tightness of my shirt and wanted to play around with more rep work than working up to a PR. The scoop of the neck sits a lot lower on my chest now and forces me to bring the bar out lower on my chest, which hits my groove much since my arms are so damn long. The 405 moved so quickly that I was tempted to increase the weight, but I stayed disciplined and stuck with the plan.

On an unrelated note, my digestive system was giving me fits for a couple of weeks and was making life a bit miserable for me. My appetite was low, I was constantly bloated, and my sleep/energy quality was terrible. However, last weekend I reincorporated digestive enzymes into to my supplement regimen and they have made a HUGE difference. My appetite is back, the bloat is gone, and I've had some of the best training in recent memory. For those struggling to get kcals down to fuel sessions or gain mass, pick up a good digestive enzyme blend such as the NOW Super Digestive blend.
 
9/9 ME Lower

Cambered Bar GM
135x5
185x5
225x3
275x3
315x3
335x3
365x1

Snatch-Grip Deads
315x5x4

Hanging Leg Raises
BWx15x5

Prowler Pushes
90#
25Mx8 (4 vertical, 4 horizontal)
180#
25x2 (horizontal)

First time that I've ever used a cambered bar for GM as I wanted to break up a little bit of monotony in my training and hit some new angles. After I was done with those, I really wanted to hit my upper back hard and seated GM would have been a little redundant, so I threw in another lift I have neglected lately: snatch-grip deads. I didn't have the intention of working up to anything ultra heavy as the leverage is terrible and it is an assistance lift. However, the feeling in the mid/lower traps and upper lats is very different from any other form of deads and I hope these carry over to my squat as I've been having difficulty supporting the weight and lifting it out of the mono.
 
Rodja said:
9/9 ME Lower

Cambered Bar GM
135x5
185x5
225x3
275x3
315x3
335x3
365x1

Snatch-Grip Deads
315x5x4

Hanging Leg Raises
BWx15x5

Prowler Pushes
90#
25Mx8 (4 vertical, 4 horizontal)
180#
25x2 (horizontal)

First time that I've ever used a cambered bar for GM as I wanted to break up a little bit of monotony in my training and hit some new angles. After I was done with those, I really wanted to hit my upper back hard and seated GM would have been a little redundant, so I threw in another lift I have neglected lately: snatch-grip deads. I didn't have the intention of working up to anything ultra heavy as the leverage is terrible and it is an assistance lift. However, the feeling in the mid/lower traps and upper lats is very different from any other form of deads and I hope these carry over to my squat as I've been having difficulty supporting the weight and lifting it out of the mono.
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That's retarted strong good mornings. . I LOVE using cambered bars for it though
 
9/11 RE Upper

Incline DB Press (30)
80x15
90x10
90x10
100x7

DB Rows
150x21 (PR)

JM Press
185x10
195x9
205x7
205x7

Hammer Curls/Band Ex Rotations (mini)
50x10/15
50x10/15
 
9/12 DE Lower

Speed Pulls
315x1x12

Walking DB Lunges
55x12x4

Hypers/Hanging Leg Raises
BW+45x15/15
BW+90x15/15
BW+90x15/15

Standing Cable Crunches
100x15x4

Pretty grueling session. Speed pulls went very well (had to lift at school gym and didn't use a DL bar) and made sure to pull my hips under the bar before leaving the ground as I have a little bit of a habit of lifting my butt up when I'm focusing on maximum speed. I also made sure to really hit the abs hard today as I've somewhat slacked on them lately and I'm about to start trying to get a 700 squat before the end of the year, which would be ~50 lbs in 3 months.
 
Could you share the dosage, extract, length of use ect of the rhodiala your using. Im curious about it as a training aid outside of the normal stuff.
 
9/15 ME Upper

Bench
Worked up to 335x1 (raw), 455x2 (3-board, shirted) PR

OHP
135x8x2
145x6x2

HS Rows (pronated, wide)
135x15
160x12
180x10
180x10

Rope Pressdowns/Facepulls
70x15x4/70x15x4

Getting in some really good work this week. Wanted to get some extra weight in my hands, which is why I went up to 455. The shirt provides so much support that I'm going to need to get used to holding at least 495 before I'll be able to really start to take advantage of the spring. The 455 came up quickly and I probably could have gone for a triple except my lower back cramped up.
 
What benefits do you see from erase while on? Also nice bench PR, thats my goal at the meet in oct. Maybe I shoulda done a lot more shirt work to boost my raw numbers.
 
SweetLou321 said:
What benefits do you see from erase while on? Also nice bench PR, thats my goal at the meet in oct. Maybe I shoulda done a lot more shirt work to boost my raw numbers.
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It's a solid AI and helps to keep the bloat from Enanthate and Deca down.
 
Nice bench PR, Rodja. I'd like to get 335 as well, but some work with 315 tells me I'm a little ways away from it.
 
Rodja said:
It's a solid AI and helps to keep the bloat from Enanthate and Deca down.
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Do you notice any of the sides typical to letro/adex? Adex seems to either not lower my e2 enough or crushed it, my joints, and libido at the same time. On trt so looking for things to discuss with my doctor and try new options without just simply upping my trt dose ect.
 
SweetLou321 said:
Do you notice any of the sides typical to letro/adex? Adex seems to either not lower my e2 enough or crushed it, my joints, and libido at the same time. On trt so looking for things to discuss with my doctor and try new options without just simply upping my trt dose ect.
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It doesn't crush my libido like Letro does and I don't get any of the joint pain associated with AIs. PM me and I'll hook you up with a bottle.
 
Rodja said:
It doesn't crush my libido like Letro does and I don't get any of the joint pain associated with AIs. PM me and I'll hook you up with a bottle.
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Ill pm you. Sounds like a nice all around AI, only thing that would make it better is if it doesnt alter lipid panals to much. I believe natty uses it on trt and didnt notice a change so it spiked my interest.
 
SweetLou321 said:
Ill pm you. Sounds like a nice all around AI, only thing that would make it better is if it doesnt alter lipid panals to much. I believe natty uses it on trt and didnt notice a change so it spiked my interest.
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There have been a few members on here (can't recall the names, though) that have not seen any lipid changes while using it.
 
9/16 ME Lower

Sumo (briefs only)
Worked to 605x1 (PR)
515x3

Called it a day after the pulls as they took a huge amount out of me. Also, my foot slipped on the last set and gave me a bit of a jolt in my back and I didn't want to risk irritating it further. Had a good group on this day with a lot of the dude's from my old crew including the pro. He made a slight tweak to my approach and it helped to finally break 600 on my pulls.
 
9/18 RE Upper
Pullups (3 neutral, 3 wide)
BWx8x6

Flat DB Press
90x12
100x9
110x7 PR

Dips
BWx15
BWx15

Pressdowns
100x10x4

Side Laterals/External Rotations
25x15/15x15
30x15/15x15
30x15/15x15
30x15/15x15

Hitting a great groove right now and making some solid progress on DB press. My chest strength is awful and I've struggled to really bring it up over the years. I ordered a Titan Ram to use on DE days since I really haven't seen any great transfer from DE to my ME work as the percentage is just too low.
 
good work on the pulls and what not!
as far as dumbell pressing whenever i ended up going heavy on db press for a while (reps of 5) i would notice my bb went up. that's just me though.
what is this titan ram you speak of?
 
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