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halodrol on-cycle supplementation / PCT questions

1983luke

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I'm finally getting ready to start my halodrol cycle in the coming days. It took a little longer than expected as I found out, several weeks back, that my diastolic blood pressure was a bit on the high side. (Personally I think it was due to the last pre-workout I was using as I've never had issues with BP before.) Anyway, at this point I've been running most of my cycle support products for about three weeks, blood pressure is back to normal, and I feel ready to begin my first prohormone cycle. My questions have to do with:

A) Other supplements while on cycle; (other than the cycle support supps which I've been running)
1. I've been supplementing with larger doses of Vitamin D, between 4000-6000 iu daily, mainly with the hopes of it elevating test levels but also because I just haven't been getting much outdoor time during day time hours of late. Would I continue this on cycle or cut down?

2. As far as pre/intra workout I just plan on using BCAAs and Citrulline Malate. Would adding l-arginine be beneficial at all as far as blood pressure is concerned?

3. Are there any supplements which could help protect the kidney on-cycle?

4. For sleep I stopped using melatonin as it was losing its effectiveness in doses up to 5mg and recently switched over to relora; also in the past I have used l-arginine pyroglutamate / l-lysine which has helped with sleep. Would either of this be suitable on cycle? If not, what would be the reasons? I know relora lowers cortisol levels; would this be better saved forPCT?

B) Which leads to my PCT questions:
1. Would supplements like relora and an herbal adoptogenic blend (with ashwagandha, rhodiola, Panax ginseng; it also has astragalus root and a couple other things) be enough to help control cortisol levels or would I need something stronger?

2. I purchased my tamoxifen citrate from a research peptide website. I've read on other boards that it is a reliable source but I've always read on one board, maybe even on this site, that the liquid form of tamoxifen citrate isn't as strong as the pills and that larger doses are needed. Is this true; or would I stick with the 20/20/10/10 protocol?

3. Since this is my first halodrol or prohormone cycle, if I were to have any negative sides and decided to abandon my cycle, how far into it would I need to be before PCT with the tamoxifen becomes necessary? 1 week; 2 weeks?

Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated; thanks.
 
I'll help with your PCT.

Nolva (tamox) at 20/20/10/10 is solid as long as the website is legit. If you are solid bunk or underdosed Nolva, obviously you will need to up your dose. I personally prefer pills just because Research sites are so... iffy.

What dosage are you taking for Halo? If you noticed you are shut down, you need to start the Nolva. Halo doesn't usually kick in until week 3ish.

You should also add a test booster like DAA to help you come back to normal quicker.
 
Drop the preworkout supps and the n.o. boosters, can contribute to back pumps. Vitamin D and sleep supps are fine. You should also consider having an ai, such as exemestane, on hand in case of high estrogen sides
 
Thanks for the replies. Woody, I was planning on running the halo at a low dose; i actually started another post about a month back and was told that the dosages i was planning on running were way too low. But I've always been one to try and get the most out of the least possible dose for supplements so I"ll still plan on sticking to the lower end of the spectrum, starting out at 25mg for the first several days just to make sure my blood pressure doesn't shoot back up, then going to 50mg. At the end of week three i'll see how things are going. Might bump it up to 75 then; might just try and run the majority of the cycle at 50 and do 75 the last week; save a higher dose run for the future. Speaking of which, i was wondering, is halodrol going to become difficult to find now that it was banned or should it still be available from oversea retailers?
 
Is there an alternative to exemestane? The online pharmacy that I would use and know to be legit doesn't carry it.

Also, as far as the sleep supps are concerned; I know relora lowers cortisol levels; is this fine on cycle? I'm actually a bit confused about cortisol on cycle. I watched this online documentary on anabolics once and they stated that on cycle one's cortisol levels are suppressed; then i read somewhere that on cycle your body produces more cortisol to coincide with the increase in testosterone. Which is correct?

I know that cortisol is high post cycle. Are herbal adaptogens enough to help lower them or is something stronger needed?
 
For PCT run Reduce XT starting week 3 to combat rising cortisol levels.

You don't need an AI for a halo cycle so I would hold off on that.

Run the nolva like you have it and possibly add in 3g of DAA per day for the entirety of the PCT (it's cheap).

Good luck!
 
Thank you.

So I don't have to worry about cortisol the first couple weeks post cycle?

And the reduce-xt, if I run it for 4 weeks -weeks 3-6 post cycle- that would be good or should I run it longer?

With DAA I read that it could increase prolactin; would I need to add in mucuna or anything?
 
1983luke said:
Thank you.

So I don't have to worry about cortisol the first couple weeks post cycle?

And the reduce-xt, if I run it for 4 weeks -weeks 3-6 post cycle- that would be good or should I run it longer?

With DAA I read that it could increase prolactin; would I need to add in mucuna or anything?
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Sorry for the delay, was on spring break.

Run the Reduce XT weeks 3-6. Cortisol doesn't become an issue until week 3 of PCT.

I wouldn't worry about increased prolactin levels from DAA in PCT, never seen someone have an issue with it. You could run mucuna or Inhibit P if you are paranoid though.
 
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