Halodrol 50 Hypothesis
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Cub
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Just you wait and see what we have coming...
The non hormonal line is going to rock, as are the new PHs
Edit: Answered in post above
Cub
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The original plan was 50/50/50/50, but I'm halfway through week two and not noticing a great deal (as other users have noted). After reading reviews and this thread in particular, I'm thinking of turning it into a 50/50/75/75/100/100 cycle. I don't want to overdo anything so I'll be keeping a close eye on any changes and adjust the dose accordingly. 75mg may be all that is required. My weight is actually up a few pounds and I am using Yellow Gold to try and keep my waistline from expanding too much
Force of Green
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I keep hearin' about Yellow Gold, but the AP (and P-Slin in the mix) is BOMB!The original plan was 50/50/50/50, but I'm halfway through week two and not noticing a great deal (as other users have noted). After reading reviews and this thread in particular, I'm thinking of turning it into a 50/50/75/75/100/100 cycle. I don't want to overdo anything so I'll be keeping a close eye on any changes and adjust the dose accordingly. 75mg may be all that is required. My weight is actually up a few pounds and I am using Yellow Gold to try and keep my waistline from expanding too much
Distilled Water
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Search "yellow gold" more answers then you can shake a stick at.
So most of you guys are running Halo as a lean bulk correct. Any use it for a cutter. I've seen some say it increases the appetite a good bit (not optimal for cutting)
Cub
Banned
I've found my appetite has decreased slightly over the past couple of days. As mentioned, I'm only running a low dose at the moment (50mg).
Trauma1
Legend
I wouldn't say it did that much for my appetite. I was fairly impressed with halo overall. It just takes a solid 2-3 weeks to start kicking in.
I also believe that anyone over 200lbs needs to dose this higher to really gain desired benefits. I loved it at 100mg/day.
Force of Green
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And 150mg per day made sweet, baby Jesus cry!
Force of Green
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king1033
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just to throw out h-drol will mess up your numbers test levels t3 levels and cholestrol mainly, so just make to to run some clomid post cycle wouldnt be a bad idea,
like always you should always get blood work done 1-2 weeks post cycle and pre to see how much this compound shuts you down because everyone is different ALWAYS BE SAFE RUNNING ANY INJECTABLE OR ORAL STEROID DONT BE STUPID!
like always you should always get blood work done 1-2 weeks post cycle and pre to see how much this compound shuts you down because everyone is different ALWAYS BE SAFE RUNNING ANY INJECTABLE OR ORAL STEROID DONT BE STUPID!
Good Shepherd
Member
Great advice King, I think alot of nub's don't realize how important it is to really organize their post cycle schedule-Having blood panels done really gives you a leg up interms of getting to know individual body chemistry.
Force of Green
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Usf97j4x4
CEL Rep (Z's lacky)
Halo is a recomp PH and nothing more... bulk should not even be in these posts. It is good for 6-12 lbs of muscle and 1-2% reduction in body fat.
FYI i dont ever recommend trying to cut on a PH unless its a mild one like furaz
Good Shepherd
Member
Usf,
Can you elborate on why dont recommend cutting with Ph's outside of Furaz? This would be some welcome feedback as well.
Force of Green
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Thanks GS! Glad I could be of help
msucurt
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jcp2
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I have no clue what this means, either you are trying to put on muscle or you are trying to lose bodyfat. 6-12 lbs of muscle on anything to anyone who has any size or has been lifting for any serious amount of time is awesome. Bulk, lean bulk, recomp, these terms don't really mean much.
Usf97j4x4
CEL Rep (Z's lacky)
Its aimed at people trying to lose fat and replace it with muscle but who arent looking for massive weight gains or massive fat loss.
Usf97j4x4
CEL Rep (Z's lacky)
I recommend starting the cut after PCT. Stronger PHs put an enormous amount of stress on the body and its various systems... adding the stress of a true cut (i.e. higher HR training and caloric deficits) is risky IMO.
Force of Green
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jcp2
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msucurt
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Usf97j4x4
CEL Rep (Z's lacky)
Its simply a category to assist people when they are looking for PHs
Bulkers - Focus on increase mass, less concern for fat and water retention
Cutters - Focus on decreased fat while gaining/maintaining as much muscle as possible
Recomps - Focus on decreased fat and increased lean mass.
Don't bust my balls. Not sure if I understand you but FWIW I don't recommend anyone who doesn't an "advanced physique" be screwing with PHs. PHs should be used by those trying to step it up to the next level or trying to bust a plateau.. not some noob who just started weight training.
jcp2
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I am definately busting your balls, mainly because i think the term lean bulk and such is pretty gay. Everyone should be trying to put on as much muscle as possible while minimizing fat gain. When you get a little fatter than you like, or the summer is coming you then want to trim down a little while retaining as much muscle as possible. I just think it made more complicated than it needs to be, and people get so caught in the bulk,cut philosophy they end up back where the started. Like i said you can gain weight or lose bodyfat on anything. People find it amazing that andadrol is a top precontest drug for bodbyuilders.
Force of Green
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Usf97j4x4
CEL Rep (Z's lacky)
Ok sweet cheeks... I didn't invent the terms, these are terms used on almost every bodybuilding forum that promotes the discussion of PHs (I would know, I rep on at least half of them). I apologize for that blatant disregard of common sense. I will now put my foot in my mouth and cease posting. If you'd like I can perform an exhaustive search and find the person who originally coined the term "recomposition."
Oh, but when I find them... would you like me to a) draw and quarter them b) hang them or c) put them in the iron maiden? I am a big fan of C but the choice is yours.
jcp2
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If you think calling me sweet cheeks offends me, it does not. If you want to get into pissing match i have no problems with that. I didn't insult you. If you want to brag about an internet persona you are doing it to the wrong guy.
Usf97j4x4
CEL Rep (Z's lacky)
I didn't type it to offend you, it's a term of endearment. Sorry if I implied you insulted me - you're missing the point. I didn't coin these terms. They have been around a long time, as long as i've been visiting BB boards. I have no intention of a pissing contest b/c frankly I just went.
I am sorry if it confused you
jcp2
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Exactly the point i am trying to make, these terms have been around forever so we will just keep using them. Makes sense.
Usf97j4x4
CEL Rep (Z's lacky)
Yea... I mean I agree with you that it gets convuluted... but I know as soon as I call Halo a bulker i'm going to get 5 pms that says its not a recomper?! lol catch 22
Distilled Water
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Yea... I mean I agree with you that it gets convuluted... but I know as soon as I call Halo a bulker i'm going to get 5 pms that says its not a recomper?! lol catch 22
Thanks for the info USF
I will recomp, bulk, and cut til the day I die :head:
Usf97j4x4
CEL Rep (Z's lacky)
Cub
Banned
It seems H-DROL and a few grams of Yellow Gold a day are preventing any body fat increase. I even ate McDonalds last night and the nausea has ceased. Maybe I was just sick of eating TOO clean and needed some good wholesome food? Looks like it's milkshakes and Dunkin' Donuts post training this afternoon to test my theory! (After kebabs of course)
Force of Green
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Something like Anabolic Pump, Forslean, Green Tea Extract, and Salvia (40%) capped at 500mg (cheap if u do it urself) would prevent ANY fat gain from a surplus-type meal... Definitely include sesamin as well. Even something like AP/Forslean/GTE... add some cheap Bioperine of course... I'm rambling.
RealG
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HI, anyone knows the DETECTION TIME of H-DROL ?
I need good and real information, on the internet there are a lot of webs of detection time of steroids but soo bad...
I probably will have a polician opposites soon, and im taking H-DROL (Fast Action). 25/50/50/75
Im at the second week.
Thnks, im very afraid
I had read that Oral Turinabol has a very short detection time in the system... some people say that, but i cant read good and real information about this...
Is H-drol, esactly the same as Oral Turinabol?
Sorry for my bad english.
I need good and real information, on the internet there are a lot of webs of detection time of steroids but soo bad...
I probably will have a polician opposites soon, and im taking H-DROL (Fast Action). 25/50/50/75
Im at the second week.
Thnks, im very afraid
I had read that Oral Turinabol has a very short detection time in the system... some people say that, but i cant read good and real information about this...
Is H-drol, esactly the same as Oral Turinabol?
Sorry for my bad english.
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borobulker
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i am very interested in this protocol... thanks for the layout. i have never used salvia...
not to hyjack the hdrol thread....
Ziquor
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HI, anyone knows the DETECTION TIME of H-DROL ?
I need good and real information, on the internet there are a lot of webs of detection time of steroids but soo bad...
I probably will have a polician opposites soon, and im taking H-DROL (Fast Action). 25/50/50/75
Im at the second week.
Thnks, im very afraid
I had read that Oral Turinabol has a very short detection time in the system... some people say that, but i cant read good and real information about this...
Is H-drol, esactly the same as Oral Turinabol?
Sorry for my bad english.
H-Drol's detection time based after conversion to OT could be anywhere from 2-6 weeks as it all depends on each persons individual health and clearance times.
RealG
New member
Yes i had read this information, and some people say to me...
but, how do u know that?
Where's this information? I'd like to read serious information from anywere, u understand me?
Thanks a lot man.
Ziquor
Well-known member
Not really, but I must say Google is an amazing resource. If you search for OT & detection times you'll find many resources. The time listed is typically the longest clearance times to be safe, & as I said everyone's body is different. Good luck:
Oral Turinabol Profile
(4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone)
[4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-dien-3-one-17b-hydroxy]
Molecular Weight:334.8854
Formula:C20H27O2Cl
Manufacturer: Underground Labs only
Effective Dose (Men): 10-40mgs/day
Effective Dose (Women): 5-15mgs/day
Active life: 16 hours
Detection Time: 6 weeks
Anabolic/ Androgenic ratio: >100:>0
Georgiaboy1
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I would like to say that I appreciate the dialogue on H-drol that each of you have contributed. As someone who has wasted my excess cash buying and testing countless substances like an overworked guinea pig, I have a few good things to say about H-drol and my new found stack.
Amongst the PH's, vitamins, herbs and spices, that I've tried in recent years my first impressive response to this overworked body came with my initial cycle of Chlorodrol-50, 50mg/30days. Since then I've abandoned almost all other over the counter supplements for bulking and leaning.
My new approach to fitness and cutting began about six months after my first H-drol cycle after 18 straight months in the gym lifting with light to medium cycles of cardio. My weight increased during this time from 198 to 219 (at 6' 2"). My first indicator of a problem with my goals of gaining lean mass was a body fat measurement. I found that I went from 12% up to 22% BF with a final lean mass of 174 lbs. It was clear I needed a new approach.
I started by changing my lifting routine to the P90X workout advertised on TV and included the diet they recommended. Three weeks into the workout I began my cycle of H-drol, 50mg/day taken in the morning. I found that taking the H-drol in the morning gave me good strengh and cardio during my workouts for the first 4 weeks but it was easy to get raw since the recovery time in the P90X program is narrow.
Still motivated I continued h-drol for another 4 weeks during my workout. The h-drol effects started waning in week 4. To boost the effect I started supplementing 2 capsules/night 1 capsule morning of H-Bomb 4. I strongly recommend H-Bomb 4, especially at night dosing since it gives a real boost to the Test levels during the morning. (H-bomb is a conconction of estrogen inhibitors that helps keep Test around). This combo worked fine out to week 6 and my stack started waning again. I shifted the h-drol dose to evening (before bed) and I found a nice return to my strength and cardio during my workouts with less fatigue between days (didn't get raw as easily). And once again the effects of the stack started to wain towards the end of week 8 so I bumped up the stack to 100mg/day h-drol to see the effect. The cardio and strength showed a noticable improvement as early as the next day but now I'm at the end of my cycle. The question is, should I do two more weeks for a total of 10 weeks doing 100mg/day for the last two?
During my cycle I experienced no significant noticable side effects. No T-atrophy, rare agression, hair fine, occasional pimple. It's easy to grow attached to H-drol. Does anyone have experience out to 10 weeks?
As for results. My goals were cutting. Since I've been on cycle I've lost 19 lbs overall, gained 6 lbs of muscle, and dropped my bodyfat below 10%. This is good for me, a 40 yr old.
Amongst the PH's, vitamins, herbs and spices, that I've tried in recent years my first impressive response to this overworked body came with my initial cycle of Chlorodrol-50, 50mg/30days. Since then I've abandoned almost all other over the counter supplements for bulking and leaning.
My new approach to fitness and cutting began about six months after my first H-drol cycle after 18 straight months in the gym lifting with light to medium cycles of cardio. My weight increased during this time from 198 to 219 (at 6' 2"). My first indicator of a problem with my goals of gaining lean mass was a body fat measurement. I found that I went from 12% up to 22% BF with a final lean mass of 174 lbs. It was clear I needed a new approach.
I started by changing my lifting routine to the P90X workout advertised on TV and included the diet they recommended. Three weeks into the workout I began my cycle of H-drol, 50mg/day taken in the morning. I found that taking the H-drol in the morning gave me good strengh and cardio during my workouts for the first 4 weeks but it was easy to get raw since the recovery time in the P90X program is narrow.
Still motivated I continued h-drol for another 4 weeks during my workout. The h-drol effects started waning in week 4. To boost the effect I started supplementing 2 capsules/night 1 capsule morning of H-Bomb 4. I strongly recommend H-Bomb 4, especially at night dosing since it gives a real boost to the Test levels during the morning. (H-bomb is a conconction of estrogen inhibitors that helps keep Test around). This combo worked fine out to week 6 and my stack started waning again. I shifted the h-drol dose to evening (before bed) and I found a nice return to my strength and cardio during my workouts with less fatigue between days (didn't get raw as easily). And once again the effects of the stack started to wain towards the end of week 8 so I bumped up the stack to 100mg/day h-drol to see the effect. The cardio and strength showed a noticable improvement as early as the next day but now I'm at the end of my cycle. The question is, should I do two more weeks for a total of 10 weeks doing 100mg/day for the last two?
During my cycle I experienced no significant noticable side effects. No T-atrophy, rare agression, hair fine, occasional pimple. It's easy to grow attached to H-drol. Does anyone have experience out to 10 weeks?
As for results. My goals were cutting. Since I've been on cycle I've lost 19 lbs overall, gained 6 lbs of muscle, and dropped my bodyfat below 10%. This is good for me, a 40 yr old.
tt55
New member
TOOK H-DROL FOR 8 WEEKS AT 25MG MORN & 25MG EVN & GOT RIPPT ON IT. ONE NIGHT IN THE GYM ON WEEK 3 4 PEOPLE CAME UP TO ME TO SAY HOW GOOD I LOOKED & WHAT WAS I TAKING. BEEN TRAINING FOR 4 YEAR & NEVER HAD ANY ONE COMENT B4. THE ONLY OTHER PH IV TAKEN IS SUPPERDROL & THOW I GAINED 9 LD NO ONE NOTIST & I DIDNT EVER, ONLY GOT A BIT STRONGER & LOST THE 9 LD AFTER EVEN WITH PCT. ALSO FELT DRAINED & TIERED ON IT & DEPREST. WILL NEVER TAKE A GAIN! BUT NO SIDE ON H-DROL ON OR OFF THOW GOT SORE NIPLE ON WEEK 7. TOOK NOVAX STR8 AWAY & IT WENT. SUFRED WITH SORE NIPLES AS A TEEN SO PRONE TO GRON WHICK IS WHY WONT TAKE GEAR. THINK I GOT ALL MY GAINS BY WEEK 6. NEXT TIME GOING TO DO 6WEEKS AT 75MG A DAY. THINK ANY THINK OVER 6 WEEKS WOULD BE LESS AFECTIVE. 4WEEK IS NOT ANUFF TO RILLY BENNAFIT FROM IT. 50MG TO 100MG PER DAY WOULD BE FINE. BUT START SMALL & WORK UP TO HIGHER DOSES TO SEE HOW BODY RESPONDS. LOVE THE STUFF.
broken7
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nightfly71
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And the winner of the 2009 spelling bee is......
WilteredFire
Member
Just dropping into say thanks to each and every person who made useful contributions in this thread. Its great to see more positive experiences with Hdrol, long live h-drol! haha.
Thanks once again everyone, some nice info in this thread. Cheers
Thanks once again everyone, some nice info in this thread. Cheers