Hair loss

citystreets said:
thats reasonable, some men can lose up to 50% of their hair before realizing theyre on their way to goin bald
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I don't think its like that at all. I would lose 10-15 hairs/day after a shower for ~3 months after the epi run.

Now its the normal 1-2 /day, even while on much 'stronger' compounds. I've not noticed it getting any thinner, just sort of 'maintaining' now.
 
your hairs gonna fall / thin in a pattern or cycle already coded in your genes, taking androgenic compounds will only speed it up. When I ran epi my hair did not thin right away or shed, but about 4 months later it hit all of a sudden, this could be because hair rests and grows in cycles. It probably took 4 months for the elevated androgens in my scalp to thin my hair to a noticable point. Everyones different
 
if you want to keep your hair and cycle at the same time then SOLARUS's method is the best way to go. I used to think maybe running deca, EQ, or primo standalone cycles would work just as good, but these derivitives are not understood 100% and in some method or the other sometimes end up causing hairloss too, they did so in me. In theory, anytime you disturb your hormonal balance your hair sheds regardless what steroid you took. This is why even propecia has a short shedding phase in the beginning.

Finasteride works. Testosterone/ finasteride at the right dose will work too.. how much gains you make on this cycle is up to debate, we need more people like SOLARUS to speak out who have ran this approach.
 
Solarus idea sounds pretty close to what im thinking about doing. Except Im planning on doing a dbol jumpstart into test prop EOD.

Any update on this Solarus? How is progress on the cycle as far as gains? any increased hairloss? Are you just using finasteride? do you know any sides while on fina? Is there any reason why you are using fina instead of spiro or azelic acid, or a combo of them?

What would be the best drug or combo for hair prevention with the least amount of sides? I know a few sites sell combo shampoos with a few ingredients.
 
okay, ive spoke to a pharmacist, biology major, and my doctor. All against ofcoarse, but agree that doubling your test levels along w/ finasteride levels, will be highly anabolic and still prevent hair loss.

Great to hear, and just to be on the safe side, keep spiro on hand to apply at night, and xandrox applied twice daily, nizoral kaeto shampoo eod and i dont see hair shedding be a prob at all, shoot youd probably thicken your hair. Theres your combination of the topicals, i dont see anything other thing working better.
 
TRT dose is about 200mg of test, your prescribed 1mg propecia for your hair.

If your taking 500mg test then 2.5mg of finasteride would be ideal.

Dont forget to run an AI along otherwise your risking a good chance at gyno.
 
citystreets said:
okay, ive spoke to a pharmacist, biology major, and my doctor. All against ofcoarse, but agree that doubling your test levels along w/ finasteride levels, will be highly anabolic and still prevent hair loss.

Great to hear, and just to be on the safe side, keep spiro on hand to apply at night, and xandrox applied twice daily, nizoral kaeto shampoo eod and i dont see hair shedding be a prob at all, shoot youd probably thicken your hair. Theres your combination of the topicals, i dont see anything other thing working better.
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Sounds promising. I will be giving this a try next month. Do you have any sources online for this stuff, or is it cheaper to go and get a prescription from a dermatologist? Is there any company that combines a number of these drugs into one topical application/or shampoo?
 
dank311 said:
Sounds promising. I will be giving this a try next month. Do you have any sources online for this stuff, or is it cheaper to go and get a prescription from a dermatologist? Is there any company that combines a number of these drugs into one topical application/or shampoo?
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xandrox.com
 
If there is no baldness and only nice lush heads of hair in my family, could I consider myself safe from this worry?
 
Boyders said:
If there is no baldness and only nice lush heads of hair in my family, could I consider myself safe from this worry?
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Nope, there's no REAL way to tell if you are prone, your great great grandfather could have had mpb.... you are ofcourse less likely to be suseptable to lossing hair from a cycle, but definitly not safe...
I also wanted to say that i followed this entire thread, every word of it, great thread with alot of info and sopme nice battles, I love reading well informed threads!


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I suffered some major hairloss with my first Havoc cycle, I did 5 weeks 20, 30, 40, 40 ... most of the hairloss was experienced week 4-5 and after the cycle...

this time around i'm doing 20mgs for 3 weeks, i'm only using this cause I had some left from the last cycle (which was a year ago)

I also using nizoral 2% EOD, but I don't think it does jack
 
so, is the consensus that Azelaic Acid 5% & Minoxidil 5% will stop hair loss associated with AAS/Phs specifically Havoc?

I believe these are liquid solutions in a spray bottle, how often and how much would one apply during a cycle...? and would you need to use any while on PCT from any sort of rebound effect??
 
Anybody knows if methylation increase AR (Androgen Receptors) affinity?

I've read at another forum that methylation increase size of the molecule and AR-affinity, making it more androgenic and danger for hair.

Its that true?
 
FitModel said:
so, is the consensus that Azelaic Acid 5% & Minoxidil 5% will stop hair loss associated with AAS/Phs specifically Havoc?

I believe these are liquid solutions in a spray bottle, how often and how much would one apply during a cycle...? and would you need to use any while on PCT from any sort of rebound effect??
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GUYS, AGAIN I WILL POST THIS: Please write this down or print it off.

10-15% Minoxidil + 5% Azelaic Acid....these two compounds come in ONE bottle (w/a dropper) and you apply it 1x ED! Try looking at xandrox.com, Amazon.com and elsewhere online. I paid ~$40 for my bottle and it was 10% Minox version (from Amazon.com). There are prob. other cheaper places online...just search.

Also, it dries quickly and doesn't jack up your hair. I'm liking how it applies and how quickly it absorbs.

GOOD LUCK DEWWWWDZZZZ!!! :)

PAPA!
 
okay I got it...

so apply 1ED ... what if I shower twice sometimes (morning and night?)

also do I only use WHILE ON CYCLE, and will there be any rebound effect when I stop using the product and i'm on PCT
 
Is Receding Hairline The Same As Hairloss??

Is a RECEDING HAIRLINE at the sides considered hairloss. I finished an Epi pulse 2 mths ago and now I am using Dermacrine. My wife says I have a receding hairline and it's the 1st sign of going bald. I do not actually have hair falliing out or anything but now that she points it out, my hairline IS pulling back at the corners of my forhead. MPB DOES NOT RUN IN MY FAMILY.
 
Boyders said:
If there is no baldness and only nice lush heads of hair in my family, could I consider myself safe from this worry?
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unfortunately, no.....BUT, you still shouldnt worry about it, until you have reason to, ie. your hairline starts to recede.
 
For you guys suffering hairloss how much hair are you actually loosing per day ?? how much hair while washing your hair in shower are you loosing ?? how much is on your pillow in the morning ? how much hair comes out if u grab a handful of hair and pull softly at it comes out ?? I need advice i dont know if im suffering from hairloss . But my father has a head of hair so has my grandfather on mums side . but my mothers grandfather is bald . Am i safe ?? whats the chances of it skipping a generation pretty rare huh . while washing my hair ill notice roughly 15 hairs in my hands i take alot of notice make sure i count everything. while waxing my hair anywhere between 5-10 but my wax is really tough . while at gym when my body temp is up and im sweating if i grab a hand ful im likely to get 1 to 2 hairs every couple grabs ?? . Im 21 yrs old i cant notice any thinning as yet but am worried bigtime i would be one ugly bastard with no hair .
 
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