bell1986
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Any sides from the topical dutasteride?
Hair loss products
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Bob1983
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Not so far
Bob1983
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Thats a good price and deffo something worth looking at. I remember it was a lot more expensive when I looked at prp last but then again that was 2016/17 ish. I'm glad its working for you
bell1986
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Might pick this up then?
Have you ever tried RU58841? I've got the raw powder their and was mixing it up. When I was using it I was getting amazing re-growth. I eventually couldn't tolerate the side effects. Their also scary sides. Heart skipping beats and palpations. Shortness of breath. I couldn't finish a full sentence without having to take a huge deep breath. This was a scary one! Sad because I know it was working very well. Had to stop. I would rather have thin hair than in a casket lol.
I can get topical dutasteride very easy here in the UK. Doesn't look to expensive either. Im sure I read studies where topical dutasteride went far less systemic than topical finasteride? Hence. Less sides.
What's your growth been like?
I'm exhausted stressing about my hair. It's actually at its worst just now. I've easily lost 50%+ of hair and I know people look at it.
I'm wearing a cap to work everyday. A comment got raised in my work that really f*cked me up.
An older guy asked me (in front of everyone btw). How long has your hair been falling out? Your baldy patch is alot worse than mine.
I know he wasn't meaning it bad but it was a knife to my gut!
Bob1983
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That's exactly the same reason I jumped on Topical Dut. Supposedly the larger molecular size makes it less likely to go systemic than topical fin whilst being stronger. I tried Fin a few years ago for one month but started getting tender around the nipples so came off and grabbed some tamoxifen of someone. My growth was going good but I jumped on a batch of natural test products and one of them really made me lose ground with my hair and I lost a fair bit and thinned out a lot. Since I stopped the hair has started regrowing. Dont get me wrong, still bald patch on the crown that's always been there but filling in a little on the top and front. I'm still using hair fibres but not as much as I was before.
I've looked at RU58841 but never got on it. These side effects you listed others experience also which put me off.
I hear you about certain comments affecting you mentally but the main thing is you know your health is worth more than your hair. A lot of people think about nothing but hair regrowth and would have stayed on stuff not good for them just cos it was working on their hair. I'm glad you came off the RU58841 and it's easy to say but remember there's a whole bunch of people suffering with hair loss and although you see the old you, you with hair or without doesn't really make a difference to people. You see it more than them. We get older, health deteriorates, people we love die and we lose our hair. In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter as much as you think. F"ck it. It is what it is.
I've looked at RU58841 but never got on it. These side effects you listed others experience also which put me off.
I hear you about certain comments affecting you mentally but the main thing is you know your health is worth more than your hair. A lot of people think about nothing but hair regrowth and would have stayed on stuff not good for them just cos it was working on their hair. I'm glad you came off the RU58841 and it's easy to say but remember there's a whole bunch of people suffering with hair loss and although you see the old you, you with hair or without doesn't really make a difference to people. You see it more than them. We get older, health deteriorates, people we love die and we lose our hair. In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter as much as you think. F"ck it. It is what it is.
Joshlm69
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2 months of using PRP. Pretty crazy hair gains, especially as regrowth isnt meant to happen until months 3-6. You guys need to stop putting that toxic stuff in your body and get on PRP!
(I don't use anything else for hair loss, no special shampoo, no Min/Fin etc). Just a natural hair shampoo and Toco (Jarrows Toco Sorb)
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Joshlm69
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You’d have to do some research, but I would presume it would be beneficial for both
Bob1983
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Awesome. I need to find somebody decent in the uk for PRP
Sparta12
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It should be, but still lots of deciding factors how well it works.
AdelV
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It's expensive and you have to keep it up for maintaining it.
If you stop, guess what?
Better off getting a HT.
Joshlm69
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£400 a year is not expensive, it’s the cost of one nice meal.
You’ll easily spend that on min/fin every year , this is non toxic and actually works. It’s one 45 min session every year lol.
Can’t transplant because was nowhere near bald enough apparently and would have caused damage to the live hairs
AdelV
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Once a year? I read upkeep is every 6 months.
My HT will cost 3.5k, £400 = 1k here. You can find it for $450-$550 a session here, half the price you pay.
It's probably better for defused thinners, it won't regrow your hairline.
Finasteride costs me $25, about £12 a month.
RonaldWright
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I’ve also been looking into options like this for hair thinning. My experience with hair loss has been frustrating, and while I considered a transplant, I was told I wasn’t far enough along to risk it. I've tried other treatments too, like finasteride, which works but is a bit pricey when you factor in the long-term cost. One thing I’ve found helpful in preventing further damage is using hair nets, which I started using when I’m on the go or working long hours—it helps reduce stress on my hair.
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thescience
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therre are different types of transplants, some of which cause scarring and potentially nerve damage. they can fall out too and often do. copper peptide products look interesting. maneup has .ghk-cu at the .5% concentration
bell1986
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Are these topicals?
thescience
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maneup is a topical product. ive see ghk-cu copper sold as a powder elsewhere
thescience
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i dont know. i got the stem cell injection which takes a year before growth stops, but i have seen significant growth since starting the peptide. i know the stem cell helped, and i wouldnt know the copper peptide helps unless i see new growth after february. the argument against dht blocking is that alot of people dont go bald in highschool when dht is at an alltime high, and that the difference is that they can clear dht from the area with better circulation etc. the company i bought from is making bold claims that a person can ween off the dht blocking drugs with their product and theyre claming you have growth returning not just at the crown due to "reducing the hair follicles sensitivity to DHT, and cleaning up cellular disfunction, chronic inflammation, and oxidative stress, and poor blood flow."
there was a study in 2016:
Efficacy of a Complex of 5-Aminolevulinic Acid and Glycyl-Histidyl-Lysine Peptide on Hair Growth - PMC
Pattern hair loss is a very common problem. Although effective therapeutics for the treatment of pattern hair loss have been used, novel therapeutic modalities are still required to enhance hair growth. We investigated the efficacy and safety of a ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
DaveMcNaul
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I’m using a copper peptide shampoo and I think my hair looks healthier than before.
I’m going to try copper peptide serum directly into the scalp.
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i dont know. i got the stem cell injection which takes a year before growth stops, but i have seen significant growth since starting the peptide. i know the stem cell helped, and i wouldnt know the copper peptide helps unless i see new growth after february. the argument against dht blocking is that alot of people dont go bald in highschool when dht is at an alltime high, and that the difference is that they can clear dht from the area with better circulation etc. the company i bought from is making bold claims that a person can ween off the dht blocking drugs with their product and theyre claming you have growth returning not just at the crown due to "reducing the hair follicles sensitivity to DHT, and cleaning up cellular disfunction, chronic inflammation, and oxidative stress, and poor blood flow."
there was a study in 2016:
Efficacy of a Complex of 5-Aminolevulinic Acid and Glycyl-Histidyl-Lysine Peptide on Hair Growth - PMC
Pattern hair loss is a very common problem. Although effective therapeutics for the treatment of pattern hair loss have been used, novel therapeutic modalities are still required to enhance hair growth. We investigated the efficacy and safety of a ...
Which one are you using?
thescience
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maneup. the company took a dig at the shampoo and doesnt sell it because they say youre looking at 4 hours o the scalp in order to fully absorb. maneup revealed the potency. the other one, fleava or something, isnt clear about how much is in there.
thescience
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peptide sciences has insane quantities of topical ghk cu copper per bottle, although it isnt clear what they intend for a serving size as it's a research chemical. it looks like it may be designed for skin health as well so i cant glean whether or not they believe a higher amount is warranted for hair regrowth
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GillianLoc
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I’ve also been looking into options like this for hair thinning. My experience with hair loss has been frustrating, and while I considered a transplant, I was told I wasn’t far enough along to risk it. I've tried other treatments too, like finasteride, which works but is a bit pricey when you factor in the long-term cost. One thing I’ve found helpful in preventing further damage is using hair nets, which I started using when I’m on the go or working long hours—it helps reduce stress on my hair.
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thescience
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i ordered an irestore elite. definitely induces a scalpwide pulsing sensation. if i go a year on maneup and that without the fuzz i grew growing more than the centimeter it stopped at, ill be disappointed
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Sparta12
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how often do you use it? those small home version have weaker frequencies/outputs so you need to use them 4-6 days a week for atleast 10 minutes. The big professional studio ones work well, but you still need to use them 2-4 times a week which is stupidly expensive