H-Drol Cycle

SuperMachoMan said:
I was looking into PCT for back in the day, like what would Arnold and them have taken, because talot of these things didnt come along for a while after, the oldest i can find is clomid. I wonder if they would just taper off longer. But today is my 5th day. Doubt ill really notice anything different in the gym except for more determination since i know im taking something. Also i have been doing really well bumping up my calie intake.

They didn't really know about PCT back in the day. They probably would have felt like crap for a while until it was time to run another cycle.
 
SuperMachoMan said:
I was looking into PCT for back in the day, like what would Arnold and them have taken, because talot of these things didnt come along for a while after, the oldest i can find is clomid. I wonder if they would just taper off longer. But today is my 5th day. Doubt ill really notice anything different in the gym except for more determination since i know im taking something. Also i have been doing really well bumping up my calie intake.

I just finished my second week of 600 milligrams test.... definitely feel dramatically stronger
 
Haven't pushed the envelope yet,,, just everything became sooooooo much easier,,, adding in some tren this week... tren/test for the next six weeks,,, counting on some serious gains by then,,,
 
hi guys. This is my first H-drol cycle. what do you think?

w 1-12 Anabolic Innovations - Life Support | 4 caps ED
w 3-7 H drol | 50/75/75/75/75 ED

w 8-11 Nolvadex | 20/20/10/10 ED
w 8-11 Driven sports - Activate Extreme | 4 caps ED
w 1-12 Finasteride | 1mg ED
+Creatine+BCAA+Multi vitamin+Fish oil+Protein

What do you think?

Question: alternatively [w 8-12 Competitive Edge Labs - PCT Assist | 5 caps ED] could effectively replace the Nolva?
I can not easily get the Nolva in my country... :-(
 
Tesla said:
hi guys. This is my first H-drol cycle. what do you think?

w 1-12 Anabolic Innovations - Life Support | 4 caps ED
w 3-7 H drol | 50/75/75/75/75 ED

w 8-11 Nolvadex | 20/20/10/10 ED
w 8-11 Driven sports - Activate Extreme | 4 caps ED
w 1-12 Finasteride | 1mg ED
+Creatine+BCAA+Multi vitamin+Fish oil+Protein

What do you think?

Question: alternatively [w 8-12 Competitive Edge Labs - PCT Assist | 5 caps ED] could effectively replace the Nolva?
I can not easily get the Nolva in my country... :-(

Everything looks good...just go another week on h drol...go 100mg for last week..

And no pct assist can't take nolva place....you need nolvadex!!!! Don't start ur cycle without nolva
 
And add a AI (erase or Licogenix) for estrogen rebound...
 
punjabimunde said:
And add a AI (erase or Licogenix) for estrogen rebound...

Everyone forgets to say rv2... It's an amazing AI/serm and there are logs out now showing its effective when used in pct without a serm along side of it. Just an idea...
 
LiveToLift said:
Everyone forgets to say rv2... It's an amazing AI/serm and there are logs out now showing its effective when used in pct without a serm along side of it. Just an idea...

Oh yea...rv2 is another solid AI...you can choose any of these three and you'll be fine...
 
Tesla said:
I saw the PES Erase 90 Caps, however, this is an AI and is also a test booster. I can remove from the PCT Driven sports - Extreme Activate?

Yea you can remove activate but add some DAA 3grams Ed on pct...and then use activate post pct for test optimization..
 
Tesla said:
I saw the PES Erase 90 Caps, however, this is an AI and is also a test booster. I can remove from the PCT Driven sports - Extreme Activate?

If you don't have the means to a serm I highly suggest you pick rv2, pnut has a log where he used it as his pct with no see and raised test by 3 times in just two weeks... I have yet to see someone say the same about a different AI or give results from bloodwork like that without a serm. Look it up the log is current..
 
LiveToLift said:
If you don't have the means to a serm I highly suggest you pick rv2, pnut has a log where he used it as his pct with no see and raised test by 3 times in just two weeks... I have yet to see someone say the same about a different AI or give results from bloodwork like that without a serm. Look it up the log is current..

The log is of rv2 and testv2 both from iforce you will still want a test boost to go with the AI. Those two would do the trick.
 
this is the final cycle

w 1-12 Anabolic Innovations - Life Support (120 caps) | 4 caps ED
w 3-8 H drol (60 caps) | 50/75/75/75/75/100 ED

w 9-12 Nolvadex | 20/20/10/10 ED
w 9-12 PES - Erase (90 caps) | 3 caps ED
w 9-12 Omega Sports - Alpha Series DAA (100 grams) | 3 g ED

w 1-12 Finasteride | 1mg ED
+Creatine+BCAA+Multi vitamin+Fish oil+Protein

??? the test booster is needed after PCT?
 
Tesla said:
this is the final cycle

w 1-12 Anabolic Innovations - Life Support (120 caps) | 4 caps ED
w 3-8 H drol (60 caps) | 50/75/75/75/75/100 ED

w 9-12 Nolvadex | 20/20/10/10 ED
w 9-12 PES - Erase (90 caps) | 3 caps ED
w 9-12 Omega Sports - Alpha Series DAA (100 grams) | 3 g ED

w 1-12 Finasteride | 1mg ED
+Creatine+BCAA+Multi vitamin+Fish oil+Protein

??? the test booster is needed after PCT?

Everything looks good beside add erase on 2nd or 3rd week of pct....

So erase w 10-13
 
Nolva and DAA for 1week itself...you gonna start taking erase on week 2 of pct coz that's when estro rebound...
 
THANKS PUNJA

w 1-12 Anabolic Innovations - Life Support (120 caps) | 4 caps ED
w 3-8 H drol (60 caps) | 50/75/75/75/75/100 ED

w 9-12 Nolvadex | 20/20/10/10 ED
w 9-12 Omega Sports - Alpha Series DAA (100 grams) | 3 g ED
w 10-13 PES - Erase (90 caps) | 3 caps ED

w 1-12 Finasteride | 1mg ED
+Creatine+BCAA+Multi vitamin+Fish oil+Protein
 
Tesla said:
THANKS PUNJA

w 1-12 Anabolic Innovations - Life Support (120 caps) | 4 caps ED
w 3-8 H drol (60 caps) | 50/75/75/75/75/100 ED

w 9-12 Nolvadex | 20/20/10/10 ED
w 9-12 Omega Sports - Alpha Series DAA (100 grams) | 3 g ED
w 10-13 PES - Erase (90 caps) | 3 caps ED

w 1-12 Finasteride | 1mg ED
+Creatine+BCAA+Multi vitamin+Fish oil+Protein

Perfect!!!! Good luck and have fun!!! :)
 
the basics for pct are test maximizing/boosting, estrogen blocking, estrogen minimizing, and cortisol control. So that being said. You want the following compounds.

Serm: saturation/normal/normal/taper dose
Erase: 3/3/3/2/1 (there are other mild AIs, but erase doses so easily, and has cortisol control as well).
DAA:3g/3g/3g/3g
Test maximizer (hopefully with SHBG inhibitor) (Division 1 and titanium xl are a good combo for this with the div 1 being optional) for all 4 weeks

also remember to not try and cut during pct, keep your calories at your new maintenance or a bit over, train but not as hard as when you were on, and absolutely minimize cardio.

there are a couple other things you can add in to pct, but those are just fractional improvements over the base above.


what week do you start the Division 1 and titanium? Is it started at the end of your cycle and beginning of PCT? and at what level per day?
 
which is the most important thing in pre-cycle? I mean: I will use "life support" before, during and after the cycle, I ordered the supplement but I have not yet arrived by mail, so I went to the pharmacy and I bought the simple hawthorn berry capsules (350 mg ED , 10 days from now). I ask: In your opinion, when will I receive "life support" I have to do the pre load for two weeks? or can I do less days? or start with the cycle?
 
You can get away with a week preload with Hdrol, milk thistle is the important thing to preload though.
 
Nolva and DAA for 1week itself...you gonna start taking erase on week 2 of pct coz that's when estro rebound...

after week 2 is fine to begin taking your test support supplements.Remember you do want some estrogen rebound.Week 2 of just Nolva is fine then the next 6-8 weeks take the rest of your PCT supplements.

Enjoy your cycle is looks solid
 
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