H drol and Dermacrine Cycle Help

MinnVikings

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Hi guys new to the forum but I was wondering if anyone had any insight on stacking h drol and dermacrine. This would be my second cycle and my first was h drol for four weeks
 
It would work for sure. I personally would go with low dose DermaTREST instead of Dermacrine (it's much more potent in terms of gains and combatting lethargy/loss of libido) but whatever floats your boat. I think 50mg/day of DermaTREST would be great.
 
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Isnt that methylated though? I dont want to run two methylated compounds at the same time
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Yeah it's 7a-methylated but not 17a-methylated. Two different animals. It's not anywhere near as liver toxic as 17a-alkylated compounds.
 
MinnVikings said:
Hi guys new to the forum but I was wondering if anyone had any insight on stacking h drol and dermacrine. This would be my second cycle and my first was h drol for four weeks
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I'd go with dermacrine over trest for the fact that it converts at a higher rate than derma. Depending on weight you could run 3 pumps of bps dermacrine along side a 5 week cycle of halodrol. I'd also recommend picking up Halo Mass by Celtic Labs as it is on sale right now for under 20$.
 
I was planning on running h drol with dermacrine. Helladrol for 6 weeks and start dermacrine on the 3rd week. I already got all the support supps and the proper PCT. What ya guys think?
 
MinnVikings said:
I was planning on running h drol with dermacrine. Helladrol for 6 weeks and start dermacrine on the 3rd week. I already got all the support supps and the proper PCT. What ya guys think?
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At what dose you going with halodrol? I'd just run dermacrine the entire cycle.
 
Im going to run 50/75/75/75/75/100 than dermacrine 0/0/3/3/3/4 pumps. I read somewhere that it was point less to run derm the first couple weeks because your natty test production is barely suppressed. Im basically using it to combat lethargy in the later weeks
 
MinnVikings said:
Im going to run 50/75/75/75/75/100 than dermacrine 0/0/3/3/3/4 pumps. I read somewhere that it was point less to run derm the first couple weeks because your natty test production is barely suppressed. Im basically using it to combat lethargy in the later weeks
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Can you get test? If not, trest or stano with the dermacrine would be helpful I would think. I personally like stano when test is not available - really helps with vascularuty and hardening up, as well as staving off some lethargy. I am one of the very few people that doesn't respond well to trest...for me, the sides are wickded.
 
Hey so not trying to thread jack here. Ima new member but just have a few questions. First off, I'm 6'1, 210 lbs, 8% bf, 28 yrs old, been lifting consistently for 5 years and on and off since age 16 before that. Have done a couple aas cycles in the past. Pretty well educated. Not an expert but not a newb either. Anyway, I can't run anything that involves pinning anymore due to current living situation but have a helladrol cycle lined up and just wanted to get some feedback from some more experienced users before I start. So here it is...
Wk 1-6= helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/100
-dermacrine
-formastanzol(only if estro sides start to occur)
-anabolic innovations life support (preloaded)
-multivit
-msm/glucosamine
Wk. 7-10=clomid 50/50/25/25 and nolva 20/20/10/10
-life support
-creatine
-DAA
-formastanzol(if needed)
-msm/glucosamine
-liv.52
Does this look good or does anyone have any advice? Thanks in advance!!
 
MinnVikings said:
Im going to run 50/75/75/75/75/100 than dermacrine 0/0/3/3/3/4 pumps. I read somewhere that it was point less to run derm the first couple weeks because your natty test production is barely suppressed. Im basically using it to combat lethargy in the later weeks
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That sounds like a pretty solid plan.
 
I wish I could get my hands on test. I was actually thinking about throwing stano in my stack to improve the anabolic/androgenic ratio for an even better recomp. Im thinking about doing a log
 
Swoldier - Everything looks good but it might be an overkill with using two serms and can further stress the liver. Also there is much discussion that formestane shouldnt be used in PCT because it converts into 4 hydroxytestosterone which can potentially effect natural test production recovery
 
Minnvikings I agree with all of that. I have always ran nolva and clomid together in the past and it worked so I've been approaching it with the if it ain't broke don't fix it mentality. But is it toxic to the point where my support supp and liv52 won't help much? Also, I agree with not using an ai in pct. But I was considering having forma on hand due to my understanding that dermacrine(which I'm running on cycle) can potentially increase progesterone. And I wanna cover my bases for both estro and prolactin. Is this a good precaution?
 
Also was only going to keep forma on hand towards end of pct to guard against any estro rebound from dermacrine or daa. Thoughts?
 
Im not really sure how toxic the serms on your liver are but you should be fine if your running liver support. Youll have some people tell you never use forma on cycle ( because of lipids) and never in pct because of suppression. But I really dont see an issue if you took small dose of forma to keep estro and progesterone at bay
 
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