Gyno from EPI!!!!

Jon2787

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Is there anything i can take to help reverse/reduce gyno from EPI ?? Ideally i dont want to take something like letro which will mess my body up more. I was thinking Erase Pro or Forma stanzol?? Any thoughts/help would be appreciated. Thanks
 
I would go with formeron or formasurge. If that's not working use arimidex. What brand of epistane are you using? Just do what you have to to get rid of the gyno
 
Google gyno reversal protocols. 90% of them are going to use Letro. The only thing I've actually 'seen' gyno reversed from.
 
Matthersby said:
Google gyno reversal protocols. 90% of them are going to use Letro. The only thing I've actually 'seen' gyno reversed from.
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Letro is so harsh on your body and just crushing estrogen in hopes no gyno can survive is stupid.
This is an outdated method and other ways have been proven more effective in more recent studies.

Your better off with a raloxifine and tamoxifen protocol.
 
Long term raloxifene has showed to reverse and minimize Gyno.

Formasurge>formerone>formastanzol
 
Mp859 said:
Letro is so harsh on your body and just crushing estrogen in hopes no gyno can survive is stupid.
This is an outdated method and other ways have been proven more effective in more recent studies.

Your better off with a raloxifine and tamoxifen protocol.
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You beat me to it!!!!! Lol posted at the same time.
 
Jon2787 said:
Would tamoxifen be better than formasurge?? Ive been reading mixed reviews on forma
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Definetly.

Start with a serm get some blood work an see where your estrogen is at and maybe run a low dose ai if need be but I would just get some raloxifene
 
I apologize for the outdated advice as I've never had the misfortune of needing to reverse gyno but have read on it. It appears there's much easier protocols currently out there.....
 
Matthersby said:
I apologize for the outdated advice as I've never had the misfortune of needing to reverse gyno but have read on it. It appears there's much easier protocols currently out there.....
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Only person who should be sorry is the assbag that sold the op epi and said he could use a test booster as oct pct. This is why **** gets banned
 
I got lumps the size of a tic tac after my epi cycle ended up runnin adex eod at .5 for 4 weeks during my sdmz2 cycle and it cleared up.
 
EatMoar said:
How did you get gyno from epi....
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Hormonal homeostasis, or lack of is interrupted when you introduce ANY hormone to the body and then discontinue it. What your body does to try to compensate is individual to each and every user. Guys who aren't taking any steroid can get gyno. Your body does what it does to attempt to achieve balance. Even when it's already imbalanced (likely those who have got gyno from epi or other compounds known for non-aromatization)
 
Jon2787 said:
Ok thanks again for all the info everyone. Does raloxifene have any sides. Any idea of dosage??
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Expect side effects. Remember its a prescription drug. That's why I suggested formestane first but regardless don't procrastinate. Get it taken care of
 
I wouldn't say letro gyno reversal is stupid by any means MP, it's been tried tested and proven time and time again, is it the most effective? Well that all depends on the user and how each protocol affects them individually. Letro works for some, Nolva solo works for some, raloxifene and Nolva combo works, my point being don't be so quick to discard something just because you read a study stating one method is better as there's plenty of studies in general that contradict each other.
/rant
 
Lukef2000 said:
I wouldn't say letro gyno reversal is stupid by any means MP, it's been tried tested and proven time and time again, is it the most effective? Well that all depends on the user and how each protocol affects them individually. Letro works for some, Nolva solo works for some, raloxifene and Nolva combo works, my point being don't be so quick to discard something just because you read a study stating one method is better as there's plenty of studies in general that contradict each other.
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Letro will work sure but it is an outdated method
It is so unhealthy to crush all your estrogen to the point gyno can't survive it's not worth it. Raloxifene has been proven more effective in gyno reversal anyways.
 
jbryand101b said:
Letro works, and is best.

Prefer letro nolva combo.
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And the letro study was done on mice not humans and it is not best sorry but keep suggesting an outdated method that's fine.

I'm not saying letro doesn't work but
Raloxifene nolva combo is the most effective period
 
Mp859 said:
And the letro study was done on mice not humans and it is not best sorry but keep suggesting an outdated method that's fine.

I'm not saying letro doesn't work but
Raloxifene nolva combo is the most effective period
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I wouldn't know, never used ralox.
I was into it back when I was s newb, but I grew out of recommending it.
It most likely is better for that purpose.
 
Estrogen is just one piece of the puzzle when dealing with gyno.

There are s number of other hormones, also out of sync, leading to breast tissue growth.
 
jbryand101b said:
Estrogen is just one piece of the puzzle when dealing with gyno.

There are s number of other hormones, also out of sync, leading to breast tissue growth.
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So for preventative-only action, would aromasin and caber cover your bases?
E2/estro/prolactin
 
Jon2787 said:
Im worried about messing my body up more with raloxifene. What about formasurge AI?? Any thoughts
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When it comes to gyno bro nothing OTC is going to work. You need the good shït. Forma etc is a preventative measure, but it's not powerful enough to reduce breast tissue growth.
 
Matthersby said:
So for preventative-only action, would aromasin and caber cover your bases?
E2/estro/prolactin
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Depends on what your running.

But I remember reading pa saying if you control estrogen on cycle, gyno worried are taken care of.

Its good to always have nolva on hand during a cycle.
 
jbryand101b said:
Depends on what your running.

But I remember reading pa saying if you control estrogen on cycle, gyno worried are taken care of.

Its good to always have nolva on hand during a cycle.
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Interesting... but I wonder, what would be the 'absolute gyno prevention kit'.? I beleive that no-one under the age of 40 has a 'perfectly balanced endocrine system'. Our body tries to do its best, but faulty methylation, food allergies, hormone and GMO-polluted foods, and an absurd amount of mercury exposure has imbalanced the majority. So, if someone who may already have higher prolactin levels introduces a exogenous hormone causing other levels to rise, how can we say what exactly started to cause the gyno? I blasted myself with adex to no avail but once introducing aromasin(better with E2)/low dose clomid, it subsided. Not the best protocol, but say I had e2/estro/prolactin control on hand every cycle. Wouldn't this suffice for any compound? Regardless what each compound is, in theory, known to elevate?. I'm enjoying learning today.
 
jbryand101b said:
Estrogen is just one piece of the puzzle when dealing with gyno.

There are s number of other hormones, also out of sync, leading to breast tissue growth.
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good post^^^


ANYONE that does phs/AAS regularly WILL eventually have some form of gyno....its inevitable:)
 
Are you sure you have gyno? What does it look like and when did you start noticing it? It seems like a lot of people just have fat in their boobs that makes kind of a cone shape they never noticed before and because they're already paranoid about it they begin to notice..
 
Damn, yeah I'd be trying some **** to help- nolva or an AI, especially since it's still a sore lump, may still clear up without being permanent.
 
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