Got my blood work back? (kinda long ?'s)

Funny Monkey

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Ast 18
ALT 22

So my liver values are good my test was 352 Doc said that was too low for my age and
I might need to supplement to bring my levels up. I wonder why my test is low? I do not feel
like it is. I finished a tren only cycle about 5 months ago @ 75mg eod for 6 weeks. My pct went fine
and felt good after it was over. I have kept all my strength gains. Could I be suppressed still from that?
Could I have a high conversion to dht in my body that would explain my low test levels.
By the way my estradiol was 16 so I know it isnt turining into estrogen. Thanks in advance
 
You are on the low end. The approximate normal levels are 300 - 1000 ng/dL seen in healthy men. You are still in that range but some doctors do not think the range should be wuite as broad. Consequently, your doctor may feel that 450+ is a better range.
 
glenihan said:
what was your pct?
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I used unleashed from preotein factory and tribulus along with zinc and chrysin.
I had clomid available but never used it my balls came back after 6 weeks and I felt fine
so I didnt see a need to use the clomid.
 
Jason161 said:
Your kidding right, pct for a cycle with tren?
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You can get pretty shut down form tren. I reall didnt run a high dose or for very long
but I figured that might be useful information so that my question could be more accuratley
answered.
 
ast and alt are fine... considering tracking GGTP and LD in the future as well for liver health..

A multi-year HCG regimen could be in order for you to bring youru test to the higher end of the range. I had a natural borderline low 373 total T and jumped to a solid 700-800 on 1,500 IU 2x week. You'd start at 1,000 IU 2x week and titrate to your target test... the max is 3,333 iu 2x week... APP sells on RiteAid's DrugStore.com for $105 for 3 10k vials... cheap alternative with a lot less sides long term then test supplementation given your age group..

good luck
 
crazydoc1 said:
ast and alt are fine... considering tracking GGTP and LD in the future as well for liver health..

A multi-year HCG regimen could be in order for you to bring youru test to the higher end of the range. I had a natural borderline low 373 total T and jumped to a solid 700-800 on 1,500 IU 2x week. You'd start at 1,000 IU 2x week and titrate to your target test... the max is 3,333 iu 2x week... APP sells on RiteAid's DrugStore.com for $105 for 3 10k vials... cheap alternative with a lot less sides long term then test supplementation given your age group..

good luck
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I dont know if I am getting this right... are you saying HCG for the rest of your life??? or are you saying HCG to jump start the Test process, and then let natural take over, and it should stay higher???

Adams
 
HCG for long term use to increase your endogenous test production. Not for PCT but rather as a long term manner to simulate more LH if your hypogonatropic hypgonadism.. if your hypergonatropic hypogonadism (high LH) then in many cases the Leydig cells will respond as well or better to HCG than the LH.

The rest of your life phrase is not accurate. You'll need suitable and responsive leydig cell populations... You'll find the need to increase your dosage as your body adjusts to the HCG over 5-7 years. Eventually if you wind up being non responsive to the HCG, you'll wind up on exogenous testerones. Rule of thumb is that sub-50, you can try to push HCG ahead of deferring to the need for exogenous T esters and bypass many side effects.

If your gyno sensitive, 0.5 mg Arimidex 2x per week with injections would help keep the estradiols in check as they tend to jump a little with the HCG.

Might want to flash your FSH and LH before you consider this course of treatment to have a baseline for watching for any suppression.... (yes the short term LH cycle only-- since someone will comment on thhis and paste that paper again)..
 
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