Getting Cut Bro * OL Sup3r Epi Log *

cokeholio said:
I think 8 weeks is what it's supposed to be. Of corse the dosing can be higher but for your body's sake I would say 8 weeks, if you loved it so much just close out the cycle, hit pct and prepare for a summer cycle 500/750/etc...
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Well that's what I'm trying to figure out ,how it will effect my body if I run it for 2 more weeks?
 
Idk I mean at the end of the day I've seen longer cycles with multiple harsher compounds but I'm no expert. I'm on day 5 and have thought about hopping to 750 I don't know how many times and buying another bottle to still run it for 8 weeks but I'm gonna wait till day 10 or so before I decide, I'm deff enjoying the ride so far, but anytime I run something I get serious on my diet and training soooo could also just be that
 
Yeah diet is a huge factor and training.
so my diet is same still at 189 which is awesome and DEFINITELY 750 is better than 500 mg cos :
Energy through the roof and libido is back so that's awesome.
I have a question since I'm cutting is it better to do cardio for like 30 mins every 3 days or daily cardio for 20 mins before workouts and that will effect my workout not in a bad way just will have less energy.
which is better for fat loss?
 
Saw great results with fasted cardio
If that's not an option to go twice a day (fasted cardio/usual routine) then I'd say do 10min HIIT before and then 10min after
 
I'm on my second cycle after 2 years out the gym..

I'm 78kg and benching 120kg..at 3reps...getting there again.

I've got D-mein and superdrol 350..has anyone stacked these before??

Any advice what's best for this novaldax or clomid?
 
For my pct I have clomid, milk thistle, DAA,CREATINE, krill oil liquid and multi VITS...would anyone recommend novaldax also?..

I took D-mein aka methyldein and had great results.

But I know superdrol is a little more powerful and is more toxic and potentialy has more sides to it.
 
I agree on fasted HIIT cardio.
will be posting 1st month update with thoughts and pics for ppl that want the nudez.
 
ROMA88 said:
I'm on my second cycle after 2 years out the gym..

I'm 78kg and benching 120kg..at 3reps...getting there again.

I've got D-mein and superdrol 350..has anyone stacked these before??

Any advice what's best for this novaldax or clomid?
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try starting your own thread for answers
 
1 month update

I have been dosing sup3r epi at 500 mg this cycle till last few days I upped it to 750 and still thinking about going to a gram.
thoughts :
current weight 189-190 lbs
I like the results I have been getting from sup3r epi and 11 oxo, do I love the results no not really maybe since I changed my diet dramatically I thought there will be big results but I had few mistakes with diet and didn't maximize on cardio.... also i somewhat hoped 11oxo and epi andro can maximize on the effects of a strict diet and love fat faster but that's a misconception I had.
I think I look leaner and feel leaner but u be the judge still I have 1 month left and I will turn it up a notch with cardio.
Top picture is before bottom is after a month

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I forgot to add that I have noticed big difference in definition that the camera not showing.
and love handles was reduce as you can see
 
Hey yall today I'll start my 1 gram dosing the 2nd bottle I ordered yesterday from nutriverse.
my question is should I take 750 mg pre workout on workout days and 250 later in the day ?
Or 500 and 500?
 
hamdysayed said:
Hey yall today I'll start my 1 gram dosing the 2nd bottle I ordered yesterday from nutriverse.
my question is should I take 750 mg pre workout on workout days and 250 later in the day ?
Or 500 and 500?
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I'd start with 250 mg PWO for a day or two and see what you notice in effects. Spread the rest out in at least two doses split however you want. After a few days of judging the effects switch to 500 mg PWO if you want and keep an even split on the other two doses.
 
He's already been on for a while Jebrook

But since I've been on, I saw a huge rush with 750mg pwo

What I do on days I'm only working out once is take 250ng in the morning, 250mg around 4-5 and then 500 around 7-8

But since you have another bottle take 750mg to the head with some carbs before and I bet you'll feel a rush
 
Jebrook said:
I'd start with 250 mg PWO for a day or two and see what you notice in effects. Spread the rest out in at least two doses split however you want. After a few days of judging the effects switch to 500 mg PWO if you want and keep an even split on the other two doses.
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Cool, my dose have been 500 mg preworkout since I started 750 mg dose.
so I'll do even 500/500.
thanks bro
 
netflixNchill said:
He's already been on for a while Jebrook

But since I've been on, I saw a huge rush with 750mg pwo

What I do on days I'm only working out once is take 250ng in the morning, 250mg around 4-5 and then 500 around 7-8

But since you have another bottle take 750mg to the head with some carbs before and I bet you'll feel a rush
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Interesting dosing I'll try that too and see the difference .
no carbs tho I train fasted.
 
Okay, well it's worth a try, I only did 750mg pwo because I forgot to take my 2nd dose during the middle of the day. It was fun
 
Alright yall 750 mg pre workout is where it's at nothing special to note before I hit the gym but once I started working out it was like on switch aggression was 100%
Now pump was awesome veins were popping on my arms I took a pic but it's not doing vascularity justice think of 10 times what you see in this picture, and that's fasted and low carb diet.

Invalid Link Removed netflixNchill man it was fun. Jebrook thanks again for recommending the mountain dog shoulder workout I tweaked my shoulder workout including 3 workouts he suggested and man I couldn't lift no more and my shoulder muscle felt different I can't describe it.
 
Good deal, I'm still running 500mg think I'm on day 10 now I'm starting to feel lethargy here and there in the middle of the day, I'm also working out without a pre workout which sucks. I'm considering upping to 750. I'm gonna order my serm this weekend narrowed down to Nolva tabs any bros have the best dosing I don't wanna have my serm too high
 
cokeholio said:
Good deal, I'm still running 500mg think I'm on day 10 now I'm starting to feel lethargy here and there in the middle of the day, I'm also working out without a pre workout which sucks. I'm considering upping to 750. I'm gonna order my serm this weekend narrowed down to Nolva tabs any bros have the best dosing I don't wanna have my serm too high
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Keep us updated man, u shouldn't be lethargic on epiandro.

so just an update
1 gram is treating me well I see the definition in my body and looking more lean everyday , still midsection is a struggle but it's a huge improvement.
Also my scalp is itching bad since I increased it to 1 gram.
 
I mean it's not lethargic like I don't want to do ****, it's a diff feeling like my muscles feels heavy, and sleep would be amazing lol could be the type of week I'm
Having, I own a suit store and it's been Easter week, one of the busiest weeks of the year and I'm training harder
 
Update
so I currently weigh 188 lbs that's 8 lbs loss since I started the cycle I'm looking the leanest I ever looked muscle definition is DAMN awesome yall.
strength is same at lighter weight that's a plus, since I started 1 gram epiandro my appetite is intense I'm way more hungry not sure if it's epiandro or my body just want more food.
but I want to emphasize on the definition is awesome from epiandro.
Mid section continue to be the struggle but that's genetics, can't do nothing about that but keeping up my diet in check .
 
hamdysayed said:
Update
so I currently weigh 188 lbs that's 8 lbs loss since I started the cycle I'm looking the leanest I ever looked muscle definition is DAMN awesome yall.
strength is same at lighter weight that's a plus, since I started 1 gram epiandro my appetite is intense I'm way more hungry not sure if it's epiandro or my body just want more food.
but I want to emphasize on the definition is awesome from epiandro.
Mid section continue to be the struggle but that's genetics, can't do nothing about that but keeping up my diet in check .
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Good to hear bro:).
 
That's awesome bro, I'm finishing my 3rd week at 500 and I gotta say I'm loving it I'm gonna order a second bottle and start running it at 750 starting week 4 till week 8
 
Almost a month and 2 weeks in update
feel worn out and keep waking up tired .
weight myself and I'm at 186 lbs that's 10 lbs loss so far which is awesome but diet is kicking my a$$.
but the more defined look is so worth it.
 
hamdysayed said:
Almost a month and 2 weeks in update
feel worn out and keep waking up tired .
weight myself and I'm at 186 lbs that's 10 lbs loss so far which is awesome but diet is kicking my a$$.
but the more defined look is so worth it.
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How many days a week do you lift, or how many days in a row have you lifted? If I feel myself getting tired or worn during the later stages of a cycle, I like to do a 2-3 day mini deload/recharge where I avoid resistance training. Your muscles won't disappear and your body will definitely thank you.
 
Toren said:
How many days a week do you lift, or how many days in a row have you lifted? If I feel myself getting tired or worn during the later stages of a cycle, I like to do a 2-3 day mini deload/recharge where I avoid resistance training. Your muscles won't disappear and your body will definitely thank you.
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4 to 5 times a week,but workouts have been trash have no motivation to do cardio, I might need a break? But I'm worried that will mess up my progress but reading ur comment I'm thinking my progress is being hindered already !!
 
hamdysayed said:
4 to 5 times a week,but workouts have been trash have no motivation to do cardio, I might need a break? But I'm worried that will mess up my progress but reading ur comment I'm thinking my progress is being hindered already !!
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I think you've got the answer you need, you just have to trust the work you've put in over the last 6 weeks. You're not going to lose your gains so don't worry about that. You're right too, if workouts are subpar becasue you are tired, your progress is already taking a backseat.

When I do a mini 2-3 day deload, I like to avoid weights but I make sure to do some low intensity cardio like walking outside in the sun. This, when combined with some stretching/range of motion exercises gives me a bit of a boost and keeps the muscle stimulated.

I'm not sure what your macros are, but I find that when I adjust my macros to allow for more [clean] carbs during that mini deload, I often times look fuller and more vascular when I'm ready to roll again. I just try and make sure I keep the same total caloric intake for those days. Although, 2 days of a slight surlpus can be a good thing too.
 
Toren said:
I think you've got the answer you need, you just have to trust the work you've put in over the last 6 weeks. You're not going to lose your gains so don't worry about that. You're right too, if workouts are subpar becasue you are tired, your progress is already taking a backseat.

When I do a mini 2-3 day deload, I like to avoid weights but I make sure to do some low intensity cardio like walking outside in the sun. This, when combined with some stretching/range of motion exercises gives me a bit of a boost and keeps the muscle stimulated.

I'm not sure what your macros are, but I find that when I adjust my macros to allow for more [clean] carbs during that mini deload, I often times look fuller and more vascular when I'm ready to roll again. I just try and make sure I keep the same total caloric intake for those days. Although, 2 days of a slight surlpus can be a good thing too.
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Thanks for the advice bro, and will take a mini break for 3 days just doing abs only maybe ? Or u think I should just take 3 days off completely ?
and my carbs they range from 100 grams to 150 grams.
 
hamdysayed said:
Thanks for the advice bro, and will take a mini break for 3 days just doing abs only maybe ? Or u think I should just take 3 days off completely ?
and my carbs they range from 100 grams to 150 grams.
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A bit of ab work using your body weight should be fine. Definitely try and do some focused full body stretches too. Your muscles/mind will love it. A nice 15-30 minute stretching session will leave you feeling relaxed and loose and may help you sleep better too. It should also speed up muscle recovery.

I might be tempted to shoot for 150-175 grams of clean carbs for those days. You can just eat a little bit less fat and protein in order to keep the same total calories if you want.
 
Toren said:
A bit of ab work using your body weight should be fine. Definitely try and do some focused full body stretches too. Your muscles/mind will love it. A nice 15-30 minute stretching session will leave you feeling relaxed and loose and may help you sleep better too. It should also speed up muscle recovery.

I might be tempted to shoot for 150-175 grams of clean carbs for those days. You can just eat a little bit less fat and protein in order to keep the same total calories if you want.
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Will do bro hopefully these 3 days break will help out
 
Toren said:
A bit of ab work using your body weight should be fine. Definitely try and do some focused full body stretches too. Your muscles/mind will love it. A nice 15-30 minute stretching session will leave you feeling relaxed and loose and may help you sleep better too. It should also speed up muscle recovery.

I might be tempted to shoot for 150-175 grams of clean carbs for those days. You can just eat a little bit less fat and protein in order to keep the same total calories if you want.
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So the 3 days break turned into 6 days break due to intense work schedule weighed today I'm at 185 lbs which is awesome since I haven't worked out In 6 days and still losing weight or staying same weight.
Win win , but I feel better overall not as lethargic after that long break
 
hamdysayed said:
So the 3 days break turned into 6 days break due to intense work schedule weighed today I'm at 185 lbs which is awesome since I haven't worked out In 6 days and still losing weight or staying same weight.
Win win , but I feel better overall not as lethargic after that long break
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I've had to do a week long deload on cycle before, because of a nagging injury plus crazy business with work. It ended up being awesome for me. I felt great and I made awesome gains for the last few weeks of the cycle.

Your body is primed now, so all you have to do is hit it hard and finish strong!
 
Toren said:
I've had to do a week long deload on cycle before, because of a nagging injury plus crazy business with work. It ended up being awesome for me. I felt great and I made awesome gains for the last few weeks of the cycle.

Your body is primed now, so all you have to do is hit it hard and finish strong!
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Agreed bro libido is coming back strong after break too.
I'm hoping to end cycle at 183 lbs.
 
Update
I have 2 days left in this cycle and I weighed today I'm at 183 lbs I hit goal which is awesome .
will posting final update and take the pics after 2 month of epiandro and 11 oxo (almost 2 month).
 
Final update
I know this wasn't the most exciting log out there, but thank you everyone who helped me with this log and pointed me toward the right direction , I just wanted to make this log about how effective epiandro for fat loss with a good diet as my workouts have been moderate nothing to crazy due to cutting calories dramatically like I haven't done in at least 9 years as I hated diets always wanted to eat what's in front of me and the reason why I'm not fat is i workout regularly so that kind of kept me in ok shape.
so this diet made me realized that I don't want to be this swole big dude walking in the gym looking big and have bunch of fat with the muscle and just looking big..
I want to be that lean big guy that is looking swole, so this diet completely changed my view of how my body should look like and how much I'm loving this leaner look :) I don't have visible 6 packs yet but I'm getting there I promise.
pros of cycle
ol sup3r epi helped me getting leaner and retain a good amount of muscle because if I did a diet without epi andro most likely I would have lost alot of muscle.
starting cycle 196 lbs and ended cycle 183 lbs (13 lbs total )
strength remained the same towards end of cycle even though I was 13 lbs lighter (impressive imo)

cons of cycle
energy was ok
libido was ok
endurance was ok.
due to very low calorie intake I felt tired alot and towards the last 5 days of cycle I was really lethargic at night like can't move without struggling.

1 gram of sup3r epi was my favorite dose wouldn't recommend running low dosage so u can reap the benefits of epi andro.
here is picture updates:
top picture is beginning of cycle
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this is final day of cycle picture
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over all I look way more skinnier than the picture can show, camera sucks not showing really how skinny I got even my face is skinnier.
thanks yates84 NewAgeMayan Jebrook Toren n everyone else helped me with this cycle
 
Great work and nice review. Your core looks noticeably leaner but your arms and traps look bigger. Maintaining strength through the process is a definite sign that you put in the necessary work.
 
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