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Frenzy by Driven Sports

T-Bone said:
I guess for some people finding surprise drugs in your supplements is like finding a surprise toy in your cereal box.
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OOOOO....... T-bone get over it. He ain't first and he ain't the last.....,. It's a Fuk up industry. There's always somebody or company that takes short cuts.
 
Mission1 said:
OOOOO....... T-bone get over it. He ain't first and he ain't the last.....,. It's a Fuk up industry. There's always somebody or company that takes short cuts.
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True, but why support it? I mean I'm genuinely asking because I don't know the answer. At some point doesn't it become concerning if someone has a history of having the label be wrong? If looking to use something that definitely works just inject. Then you know what you're putting into your body and how much which seems a lot safer than "well this will probably work, but I have no idea what it is."

I guess it's looking at something differently than me...and this is from a former big DS fan. I really liked all of their products.
 
Why support ? Members here have been supporting supplement companies knowingly and willingly taking something that's been loaded for years. The only difference in this case is this jerk off doesn't put it on his label. So what does that say?? Don't f in trust him or his company. Plain and simply. The sad thing his we are creatures of habit.. Ahhh temptation.... People will buy this and many others... Remember... We are guinea pigs in this Industry that will never change. Why don't you ask some of these supplement companies their process of making their supplements from the minute in comes across their table to the machines it goes through and the packaging . You would probably think twice. Maybe a minute YouTube clip. Especially the powders. I'm sure there's metal and glass chips in there.
 
From the sounds of the reviews on another forum its nothing like craze. Its more an energy stim feeling.
So at first I think it will be selling out at an insane rate then once people realize it has no zoned in happy feeling the sales will slow down.
 
Jesus Christ what a d bag, I to had my liver raped by Superdrol when it first came out. I used to take activate extreme back in the day, It seemed to work unbelievably well but I had to stop because of unbearable heart palpitations. I wonder what kind of toxic waste was in that? Anyway Im not buying any more of his products thats for sure.
 
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Will never support them.
 
Out tues/wed in UK, same in America? No ingredient profile yet
 
Aye I got my tub :)
 
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kissdadookie said:
I thought that this was skipping the US. It is AMP.
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Yeah. No America. He must figure he is in enough trouble here. He wants to make himself wanted world wide apparently.
 
I guess you really can't trust driven sports anymore
 
Or is it that you cannot trust the FDA from classifying a DSHEA compliant Chinese herb an unlisted drug? The rest of the world will get it and not in the US.
 
GHopkins said:
Good luck with that. Importing tubs of a powdery substances. They are bound to get pinched at customs.
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I do it all the time. All get through.
Also, Craze DID have an unlisted drug in the mix.
 
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@PredNutrition: The haters said Frenzy couldn't top Craze drivenSports have done it. Outstanding feedback with everyone saying it beats Craze!
 
I am going to disagree with you. Here are the facts as I see them from numerous chunks and posts.

DS comes out with Craze and it is fantastic. I used a few tubes and loved it. Reviews are great. Gaspari gets on board with Dendrobex in their supplement, along with a diet pill out of China. Too big to blame it all on Matt Cahill, for spiking the formula. Everything is great until urine tests start going hot for Meth. Mass spec test confirm that it does not have Meth-amphetamine. But it does not matter. There is now a product on the market that makes some urine tests obsolete for detecting Meth users. Getting it off the market would be easy if it were spiked. Just get a hold of some raws from the Chinese orchid, and run the test. If it is not there, then it is not DSHEA compliant and the product is gone. We saw this with the whole Geranium extract and DMAA issue. But as time passes, no statement comes that it is not DSHEA compliant. So with a stroke of a pen they label it a drug called ACT, which they have the power to do. So Craze is gone by having an unlisted drug in its contents.

So how does the FDA have nothing to do with this?

Probably doesn’t matter anyway since its water under the bridge.

I miss Craze. Does that make me addicted or was it just that good? I hope Frenzy makes it here, but I think it will not.
 
GHopkins said:
I am going to disagree with you. Here are the facts as I see them from numerous chunks and posts.

DS comes out with Craze and it is fantastic. I used a few tubes and loved it. Reviews are great. Gaspari gets on board with Dendrobex in their supplement, along with a diet pill out of China. Too big to blame it all on Matt Cahill, for spiking the formula. Everything is great until urine tests start going hot for Meth. Mass spec test confirm that it does not have Meth-amphetamine. But it does not matter. There is now a product on the market that makes some urine tests obsolete for detecting Meth users. Getting it off the market would be easy if it were spiked. Just get a hold of some raws from the Chinese orchid, and run the test. If it is not there, then it is not DSHEA compliant and the product is gone. We saw this with the whole Geranium extract and DMAA issue. But as time passes, no statement comes that it is not DSHEA compliant. So with a stroke of a pen they label it a drug called ACT, which they have the power to do. So Craze is gone by having an unlisted drug in its contents.

So how does the FDA have nothing to do with this?

Probably doesn’t matter anyway since its water under the bridge.

I miss Craze. Does that make me addicted or was it just that good? I hope Frenzy makes it here, but I think it will not.
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It contained an amphetamine analog
 
Jiigzz said:
It contained an amphetamine analog
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No kidding. This was never disputed. That whole point was that if it occurs in nature, then it is DSHEA compliant and legal. Until the FDA classifies it as a drug and then it is illegal. My whole response was to De_eB, that said the FDA had nothing to do with Craze disappearing.
 
GHopkins said:
No kidding. This was never disputed. That whole point was that if it occurs in nature, then it is DSHEA compliant and legal. Until the FDA classifies it as a drug and then it is illegal. My whole response was to De_eB, that said the FDA had nothing to do with Craze disappearing.
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Technically they didn't have anything to do with Craze disappearing officially. Why? ETH isn't exactly a banned substance now is it? DS voluntarily pulled it off the market. The details to this of course is a mystery.
 
GHopkins said:
I am going to disagree with you. Here are the facts as I see them from numerous chunks and posts.

DS comes out with Craze and it is fantastic. I used a few tubes and loved it. Reviews are great. Gaspari gets on board with Dendrobex in their supplement, along with a diet pill out of China. Too big to blame it all on Matt Cahill, for spiking the formula. Everything is great until urine tests start going hot for Meth. Mass spec test confirm that it does not have Meth-amphetamine. But it does not matter. There is now a product on the market that makes some urine tests obsolete for detecting Meth users. Getting it off the market would be easy if it were spiked. Just get a hold of some raws from the Chinese orchid, and run the test. If it is not there, then it is not DSHEA compliant and the product is gone. We saw this with the whole Geranium extract and DMAA issue. But as time passes, no statement comes that it is not DSHEA compliant. So with a stroke of a pen they label it a drug called ACT, which they have the power to do. So Craze is gone by having an unlisted drug in its contents.

So how does the FDA have nothing to do with this?

Probably doesn’t matter anyway since its water under the bridge.

I miss Craze. Does that make me addicted or was it just that good? I hope Frenzy makes it here, but I think it will not.
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Did you just completely make up a story of what you think happened?

Dendrobium has been tested for composition over and over again, not only is ETH not on the label, the PEA analogues that ARE on the label aren't contained in dendrobium either.

The FDA didn't do anything to get Craze removed from the market, the negative media publicity as a result of the USA Today stories resulted in DS's retailers dropping their product line and DS's reputation taking a severe hit.

How DOES the FDA have anything to do with this? Show where the FDA classified anything as a drug? Show where the FDA acted against DS at all?

You're just talking out your ass.
 
Apparently I am talking out of my ass. I thought I read the FDA said it was an unlisted drug and that’s when Craze got pulled. But I looked back and they were third party labs.
My bad,
Thank you for the correction.
 
GHopkins said:
No kidding. This was never disputed. That whole point was that if it occurs in nature, then it is DSHEA compliant and legal. Until the FDA classifies it as a drug and then it is illegal. My whole response was to De_eB, that said the FDA had nothing to do with Craze disappearing.
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You said meth, I corrected you :D
 
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