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Forskolin, Coleus Forskohlii Test Boost

freefall365

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Does anyone use a Coleus Forskohlii product? I've tried Coleus Forskohlii standardized to 18% and felt some real results in the test department when I started popping 8-10 of those babies a day. Only prob was my bottle of 60 caps was gone in a week. at $12 dollars a bottle its about 50 bucks a month to run, so it's not the cheapest stuff in the world (let me know if you have a cheap source for good stuff plz!) ...

Anyone know of any Coleus Forskohlii products or use it and have good results?

it's also known to be good for BP and weight management.

oh and why is it referred to as Forskolin and Coleus Forskohlii? that's been bugging me :irked:
 
I'm currently using the bulk stuff at NP and using 1 smidgen in the morning 5min before my breakfast shake. Only been 3 days so not much to report.
 
Nutracaps? Drive? They're cheap enough. Forskolin is the trademarked term for the standardized 10% standardized extract, I think.
 
Coleus forskolli is the plant , and its extracted for x% Forskolin.
Just like Fenugreek is extracted for testofen, grecunin, 4-hydroxyisoleucine; epimedium is extracted for Icariin etc.

60-90mg of Forskolin is good. so nutras bulk is the best deal around.

18 bucks for 30 grams of powder dosed at 300mg (60mg Forskolin) would last 100 days lol so you could double dose it (120mg active) and youd still have 50 days worth of it for 18 bucks
 
Coleus f stimulates the cAMP pathway, increasing fat loss without acting as a CNS stim.

Some studies say coleus f will slightly boost test.
 
I once used it during a cut cycle. I was feeling great which is odd for me .. when I diet I hate life and have no energy.

But it's hard to say if it was just the Forskolin or 1 of the 12 other supps I was using lol.
Also, I bought the life extension brand , 10mg/cap and I was using 4-5 caps a day.
 
you'll love em bro the strength gains and muscle building was great for me when i was cutting

Thinking of stacking it with Sustain Alpha as well. I use Recreate and I think testofen is one of the ingrediants in it. I think thats one of the reasons why it worked so well.
 
Forskolin is a cutting/recomp staple for me. It gives a great 1-2 combination of thyroid and test boosting.
 
anyone have good results using forskolin?

How's the taste on the bulk stuff at NP?

taste like ****. maybe worse. I put it in a shot of water with all my bulk goodies. if you have a strong gag reflex you might try mixing it with a scoop of xtend.
 
taste like ****. maybe worse. I put it in a shot of water with all my bulk goodies. if you have a strong gag reflex you might try mixing it with a scoop of xtend.

Ha, figured! does it at least mix well that you can put it in a shot and throw it back?
 
Mass FX is a really good Forskolin product. My buddy had great results on his run with it. Posted up lab results as well.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabolic-xtreme/135276-my-blood-work.html

I would also really consider using Phyto-testosterone from Primordial Performance. Below is a double blind study done on Testofen (Phyto-Test). Good results as well.
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Brief of the Study :
Total Participants : 60
Participants on Active ( TESTOFEN) : 30. 29 of them completed the study
Participants on Placebo : 30. 26 of them completed the study.
Dosage used : 600 mg of TESTOFEN per day, 300 mg in the morning and 300 mg in
the evening.
Duration of study : 8 Weeks
Objective of the study:
To determine the effects of the ingestion of TESTOFEN on
• INCREASE IN LEVELS OF FREE TESTOSTERONE
• BODY COMPOSITION
Participants : Male aged 18-35 years, trained for resistance/power exercise, at
least for a period of 1 month
Background
Physical fitness and use of various therapies for it is discussed very often these days.
To attain it, daily physical exercise is a must, which helps to build good muscle strength
and endurance. If the routine exercise regime is supported with some dietary
supplements, it improves the muscle strength and endurance to a greater extent.
Fenugreek contains the steroidal saponins, sapogenins and furostanol saponins , which
are important precursors for the synthesis of a number of sex hormones. Animal studies
indicate that fenugreek increases free testosterone secretion in the body. Increased
testosterone levels can lead to improved body composition (increased lean body mass,
enhanced muscles, diminished visceral fat), mood and cognition.
TESTOFEN is a product containing fenugreek seed extract as an active ingredient.
Animal studies conducted in rats have established safety and efficacy of TESTOFEN.
Increase in the weight of the seminal vesicles, ventral prostrate and musculus levator
ani was observed with the use of TESTOFEN. Increase in the weight of the seminal
vesicles and ventral prostrate indicates androgenic activity whereas increase in the
weight of musculus levator ani indicates anabolic activity.
TESTOFEN was well tolerated by animals.
Efficacy and safety of fenugreek in human beings is established in conditions like
diabetes and dyslipidemias by various clinical trials.
Formulation of TESTOFEN
Fenugreek seed was ground into a powder and was extracted using hydro-alcohol and
a proprietary process of extraction. Thereafter, it was spray dried into a powder. Each
Capsule contained 300-mg of TESTOFEN- fenugreek seed extract.
Objectives of the trial
This trial is designed to explore the efficacy and safety of TESTOFEN in healthy male
volunteers doing regular resistance exercise. Primary objectives of the study were to determine
the effects of TESTOFEN on free testosterone and body composition during eight weeks of
resistance exercise and to evaluate safety of TESTOFEN.
Method for evaluation
Thirty subjects with following inclusion and exclusion criteria received TESTOFEN.
Inclusion criteria
Subjects to be enrolled in the trial have to meet ALL of the following criteria:
• Written informed consent from the subject.
• Male aged 18-35 years inclusive.
• Normal health status on the basis of clinical examination
• Normal health status on the basis of laboratory examination
• Trained for resistance/power exercise, at least for a period of 1 month
Exclusion criteria
Subjects will be excluded for ANY ONE of the following reasons:
• Subjects with any condition which in the opinion of the investigator makes the
subject unsuitable for inclusion.
• Subject has an elevated resting heart rate (>100 bpm) or blood pressure (SBP ≥140 or
DBP ≥90 mm Hg).
• Subject has a history of medical or surgical events that may affect the study
outcome or place the subject at risk, including cardiovascular disease,
gastrointestinal problems, metabolic, renal, hepatic, neurological or active
musculoskeletal disorders.
• Subject has a history of orthopedic injury or surgery within the last year.
• Known hypersensitivity to herbal drugs/nutritional supplement/ foods
• Subjects who is consuming/ has received any performance enhancing therapy
during last 2 months
• Subjects undergoing any weight loss or diet plan during the trial period
• Chronic alcoholics
• Drug abusers
• Participation in any other clinical trial during last 30 days
• Simultaneous participation in another clinical trial.
Dosage :
Eligible subjects consumed 2 capsules of TESTOFEN, one in the morning and one in
the evening, for 8 weeks. Each Capsule contained 300-mg of fenugreek seed extract. .
Subjects were evaluated 3 times during the trial period (Visit 1: Day –3 to -1, Visit 2:day
0, Visit 3:day 56).
Subjects did not take any performance enhancing therapy during the trial period and 2
months before starting the trial.
Results
Out of 30 enrolled subjects on active group, one discontinued the study and was not
included in analysis. Out of 30 subjects in the placebo group, four discontinued the
study and were not included in the analysis. The mean age of the subjects was 23.21
years and average height was 165.52 cm.
Body weight : NO CHANGE in body weight and BMI
Pre-treatment body weight (kg) 64.93
Post treatment body weight (kg) 64.90
There was no significant change in the body weight after 8-week consumption of
fenugreek extract. BMI remained same
The study has shown improvement in following parameters after 8-week
consumption of TESTOFEN TM.
1.] Free Testosterone
Free Testosterone levels in serum were estimated before and after 8-week consumption
of TESTOFEN.
Free testosterone levels before and after treatment (pg/ml) :
Results Free testosterone pg/ml
Pretreatment levels 17.76
Post treatment levels 35.29
Total Increase 17.55
% of Increase 98.81 %
Rise in free testosterone produced by TESTOFEN was quite significant. The results
clearly indicate that TESTOFEN has positive effects on the biologically active free
testosterone secretion.
The increase in Free Testosterone levels in active group of participants was 100% more
than the increase of Free Testosterone Levels in the placebo group.
TESTOFEN TM Human Clinical
Increase in Free Testosterone
17.74
35.29
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
Before 8 Weeks After
pg/ml
2.] Body Composition :
Skin fold thickness was measured at the triceps and thighs before and after
administration of TESTOFEN.
Triceps Thigh
Pretreatment skin fold thickness (mm) 7.48 9.83
Post treatment skin fold thickness (mm) 5.97 8.39
Reduction in Skin Fold 1.51 1.44
% of Reduction 20.18 % 14.64 %
Reduction in skin fold thickness after 8-week consumption of TESTOFEN was
significant in the thigh and biceps regions. It clearly indicates the favorable impact of
TESTOFEN on skin fold thickness. In spite of reduction in skin fold thickness there was
no reduction in body weight. Reduction in skin fold thickness indicates a direct reduction
in body fat. This confirms that the loss of weight by decrease in skin fold thickness is
compensated by increase in muscle mass. The placebo group did not show significant
reductions compared to active.
TESTOFEN TM Human Clinical for
Reduction in skin Fold, no weight reduction
7.48
9.83
5.97
8.39
0
2
4
6
8
10
12
Triceps Thigh
i Before
8 Weeks After
3.] Blood Urea Nitrogen - Proves Reduction in Protein Catabolism
Blood Urea Nitrogen assessment of all subjects was done before and after the
treatment.
Results BUN mg/dl
Pretreatment levels 28.28
Post treatment levels 25.62
Reduction in Blood Urea Nitrogen - 2.66
% of Reduction 9.40 %
Blood Urea nitrogen levels were significantly reduced after 8-week consumption of
TESTOFEN. This reflects reduction in protein catabolism. This parameter confirms
muscle mass build up during the study while skin fold decrease took place. The BUN
levels of the placebo group were unchanged.
Figure 5: Blood Urea Nitrogen levels before and after treatment (mg/dl)
TESTOFEN TM Human Clinical
Reduction in Blood Urea Nitrogen
24
24.5
25
25.5
26
26.5
27
27.5
28
28.5
Before 8 Weeks After
mg/dl
Conclusion of the 60 patients Human Clinical trial :
It appears that 300 mg twice a day consumption of TESTOFEN coupled with physical
activity and exercise has a favorable impact on increasing free testosterone levels
significantly.
Safety :
The following biochemical parameters were analysed for the active and placebo groups
Heart Rate
Blood Glucose Levels
Body Temperature
Blood Pressure
Respiratory Rates
Alkaline Phosphate
Bilirubin [ Total, Direct and Indirect ]
Creatinine
Haemoglobin
Haematocrit
MCV
MCHC
RBC Count
WBC Count
Platelets
Lymphocytes
Monocytes
Basophils
Eosinophils
Neutrophils
All the parameters were normal for all participants.

There are also a number of rat studies that cofirm the effectiveness and health benefits of this product. Below is one of them.
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OK so now the qestion i have to ask: are better results likely with the bulk or with a phtyo testosterone type product? (which looks very good btw! only a bit pricey... :/ )

phyto test says it's: Testofen (Fenugreek extract standardized for 50% Fenuside) is Fenuside what you want?

whereas bulk just says: Coleus Forskolii 20%


Thanks guys.
 
OK so now the qestion i have to ask: are better results likely with the bulk or with a phtyo testosterone type product? (which looks very good btw! only a bit pricey... :/ )

phyto test says it's: Testofen (Fenugreek extract standardized for 50% Fenuside) is Fenuside what you want?

whereas bulk just says: Coleus Forskolii 20%


Thanks guys.

2 completely different supplements. Forskolin is from Coleus Forskolii and Testofen is from Fenugreek.
 
OK so now the qestion i have to ask: are better results likely with the bulk or with a phtyo testosterone type product? (which looks very good btw! only a bit pricey... :/ )

phyto test says it's: Testofen (Fenugreek extract standardized for 50% Fenuside) is Fenuside what you want?


whereas bulk just says: Coleus Forskolii 20%


Thanks guys.

Order some hard fx, has coleus f and testofen!
 
sorry i got distracted with the testofen talk... i didn't mean to compare the two, as they're completely different substances.

do you think the bulk powder from NP would be just as effective as a forskolin product?
 
Forskolin

An adenlyate cyclase activator, which in turn increases intracellular levels of cAMP (cyclic adenosine monophosphate), which eventually works to stimulate lipolysis in adipose cells. Beta 2-adrenergic agonists such as ephedrine and clenbuterol actually work by increasing cAMP as well. Unfortunately, because they work at a receptor, their effectiveness can decrease with continued use as the body down-regulates the number of receptors available. Forskolin bypasses the receptor and directly activates adenylate cyclase, obviating the need for “cycling”, and foregoing potential risks associated with beta-2 Agonists. Another potential benefit is that accumulation of cAMP in skeletal muscle may provide an anti-catabolic/anabolic effect as well.
A study which evaluated body composition found that when they gave forskolin to men (without having them change their normal habits), they were able to reduce body fat percentage by 4.14%. In addition, they were able to lose 4.52 kg (9.9 lb) of fat mass and gained 3.71 kg (8.2 lb) of lean body mass (muscle tissue), over a 12 week period. It also slightly increased free testosterone in men, but this would not likely occur in women.
 
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