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Formestane - Estrogen Control Agent - Topical

2 1/2 weeks into your Formestane, 3 pumps, 1 -2 times per day. Very good subtle effects. Leaning out nicely, and just this week I noticed my strength kicking in. Descided to hit the 100's yesterday for incline presses after being back to the gym for about a month now after being off for about a year. I blew thru 10 reps no problem, surprised the hell out of me. Similar strength gains to my Epi pulse I ran last year. Looking forward to the strength gains form my upcoming Tren/Epi cycle. Yahoo!
 
celc5 said:
Theoretically or are you having symptoms?

It's NOT going to aggravate those symptoms if you are having problems IMO.
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theoretically it won't help with prolactin since it inhibits dht. dopamine and dht are what you want to combat prolactin issues. look for products that will increase dopamine and or dht.
 
thebigt said:
theoretically it won't help with prolactin since it inhibits dht. dopamine and dht are what you want to combat prolactin issues. look for products that will increase dopamine and or dht.
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i just ordered CEL Form and will be my first time trying it..How well will this stacked with glycobol, vat attack, slim xtreme, alcar along with the asteroid stack help me combat my stomach blubber i hold and cant seem to lose????
 
wolfe14 said:
i just ordered CEL Form and will be my first time trying it..How well will this stacked with glycobol, vat attack, slim xtreme, alcar along with the asteroid stack help me combat my stomach blubber i hold and cant seem to lose????
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I have never seen it stacked with alot of those, but I dont see a problem with it. It should help keep libido up during that.

For me, I was very pleased with Suppress-C for fat loss.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
I have never seen it stacked with alot of those, but I dont see a problem with it. It should help keep libido up during that.

For me, I was very pleased with Suppress-C for fat loss.
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formestane/suppress-c is very nice.
 
thebigt said:
formestane/suppress-c is very nice.
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also with me having the vat attack included with this stack then there shouldn't be any need for suppress-c right? sorry for so many questions, just never used any of these types of supplements and I'm just trying to compile the perfect shredding stack for abdominal fat.

thanks for any advice
 
wolfe14 said:
what is the best way to apply formestane? should i do 4 squirts am and 4 pm? And where should I apply it? stomach?
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i think the consensus is that the stomach is not the best place to apply for best results. but if your main reason for using formestane is stomach fat then use 1 pump on each side of stomach and apply the other 2 pumps to more effective sites like upper thighs or chest. as for the other supps you have mentioned i haven't used many of them, but i really feel you are overloading your body with hitting it with that much stuff all at once. i feel you will get best long term results by using the marathon instead of sprint approach. spread your supps out and make 2 cycles out of them. good luck. btw i know that suppress-c/formestane works.
 
thebigt said:
i think the consensus is that the stomach is not the best place to apply for best results. but if your main reason for using formestane is stomach fat then use 1 pump on each side of stomach and apply the other 2 pumps to more effective sites like upper thighs or chest. as for the other supps you have mentioned i haven't used many of them, but i really feel you are overloading your body with hitting it with that much stuff all at once. i feel you will get best long term results by using the marathon instead of sprint approach. spread your supps out and make 2 cycles out of them. good luck. btw i know that suppress-c/formestane works.
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thanks man..and yes my main and #1 goal right now is to shred the mid region...what about this napalm topical fat loss stuff? you think form & supress c would be a better combo than form & napalm? also would it be advantagious to use slim xtreme and vat attack with the form? Anyone with advice on this please chime in..

Thanks
 
wolfe14 said:
thanks man..and yes my main and #1 goal right now is to shred the mid region...what about this napalm topical fat loss stuff? you think form & supress c would be a better combo than form & napalm? also would it be advantagious to use slim xtreme and vat attack with the form? Anyone with advice on this please chime in..

Thanks
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formestane+cortisol reducer+fatburner=success. my choice would be td formestane/suppress-c/meltdown or slimx. try to keep your supplement's as simple as possible and focus on diet and training.
 
thebigt said:
formestane+cortisol reducer+fatburner=success. my choice would be td formestane/suppress-c/meltdown or slimx. try to keep your supplement's as simple as possible and focus on diet and training.
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Great post.

AI+ Cortisol control + Thermogenic = about as perfect of a fat loss stack as you get. Maybe a carb partitioner could help to... but if your diet is on point, it shouldn't be necessary.
 
thebigt said:
formestane+cortisol reducer+fatburner=success. my choice would be td formestane/suppress-c/meltdown or slimx. try to keep your supplement's as simple as possible and focus on diet and training.
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Funny you mention that because im getting ready to do Slim Xtreme/ Suppress C and Formestane(just 100mgs a day till it runs out)
 
thebigt said:
theoretically it won't help with prolactin since it inhibits dht. dopamine and dht are what you want to combat prolactin issues. look for products that will increase dopamine and or dht.
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So if I'm running a progestin then form is not suitable? Maybe CEL should edit that it helps combat prolactin issues out of the product description??/
 
High levels of oestrogens can cause prolactin issues, so its not totally incorrect. I guess it depends on the root of the problem to be fair.
 
SouthernLord said:
So if I'm running a progestin then form is not suitable? Maybe CEL should edit that it helps combat prolactin issues out of the product description??/
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there is a big difference between preventing prolactin issues and treating them. td formestane will keep estrogen low, estrogen levels need to be elevated for prolactin to become an issue. combating prolactin imo means preventing it from starting. if you run td formestane on cycle you should not have any prolactin issues. i would never have ran x-tren if i did not have td formestane.
 
Would 100mg ed while on cycle with pmag suppress estrogen too much, as far as needing some estrogen to maximize any possible gains?

I'm debating on whether or not to use a form on a pmag solo cycle.
 
Harry Manback said:
Would 100mg ed while on cycle with pmag suppress estrogen too much, as far as needing some estrogen to maximize any possible gains?

I'm debating on whether or not to use a form on a pmag solo cycle.
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I ran Pmag at 75mg and Formestane at 40-80mg TD per day for 6 weeks and had great results. Recomp was saaaaa-weet :head:
 
celc5 said:
I ran Pmag at 75mg and Formestane at 40-80mg TD per day for 6 weeks and had great results. Recomp was saaaaa-weet :head:
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Ya I saw your log on another forum. How did determine a 40-80 mg amount when each pump is already predetermined, what 50mg? I cant imagine you guessed at it as I dont feel it is all that accurate in the first place.
 
Harry Manback said:
Would 100mg ed while on cycle with pmag suppress estrogen too much, as far as needing some estrogen to maximize any possible gains?

I'm debating on whether or not to use a form on a pmag solo cycle.
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Harry Manback said:
Ya I saw your log on another forum. How did determine a 40-80 mg amount when each pump is already predetermined, what 50mg? I cant imagine you guessed at it as I dont feel it is all that accurate in the first place.
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Topical dosing is somewhat of a approximation bc of the way the doses are.

I think 100 mg per day on cycle is fine imo.
 
Harry Manback said:
Ya I saw your log on another forum. How did determine a 40-80 mg amount when each pump is already predetermined, what 50mg? I cant imagine you guessed at it as I dont feel it is all that accurate in the first place.
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Per the label, each pump is 25mg per pump. So I'd do 2-3 pumps per day. That's 50-75mg to be more precise than I initially stated.

Once you mix your own form and have ran form as many times as I have, you'll be able to ballpark guess the dosages based on response. In my personal opinion, CEL's form is evenly dispersed in the carrier and it's dosed pretty accurately.

Regarding my personal dosages, I had a lump BEFORE the cycle and I just ran the form dose as low as possible to keep the lump at bay. Actually, it completely ELIMINATED the lump by the end of the cycle.

Also, CEL's recommendation to run it at 100mg/day is completely reasonable and a good place to start for a first run IMO :thumbsup:
 
Harry Manback said:
Understood. I guess the question is, what benefits would it have with P-Mag, if any at 100mg/day?
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Improved libido, drier cycle, most likely getting leaner.

wolfe14 said:
How would topcal formestane be as a stand alone cycle?? And what would be the recommended protocol??
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Opinions vary on the dosage and duration, but alot of people run stand alone cycles. BigT can probably be more informative when he sees the question than me.
 
would cel form with Mega Drol by BOSC work well together? Mega Drol is pheraplex clone. Phera seem to be lil wet so i was wondering if form the last 2 weeks on and 2 weeks into ptc would work well?
 
wolfe14 said:
How would topcal formestane be as a stand alone cycle?? And what would be the recommended protocol??
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topical formestane is in my opinion the best single non-ph supplement on the market. if i had just one supplement i could buy, topical formestane is by far the most bang for the buck. post what your goals are, and i am sure you will get lots of help designing the best way to use the formestane.
 
thebigt said:
topical formestane is in my opinion the best single non-ph supplement on the market. if i had just one supplement i could buy, topical formestane is by far the most bang for the buck. post what your goals are, and i am sure you will get lots of help designing the best way to use the formestane.
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Thanks Big T...My goals are to continue to add strength but mainly to shred and lower BF% on midsection..The ONLY fat i hold more like (Blubber) is in the abdominal and lower back region and I diet good and workout intensely but can not get defined or lose that fat..The body fat analyzer at my gym reads 16% BF and I assure u it all seems to be in that region..I am on week 7 of a 12 week asteroid stack and def getting stonger so i was going to use the Form along with Vat attack and slim xtreme to achieve that ripped hard look> Once I accomplish that and get my BF down then I'm either going to run my first test cycle or incorperate a PH...Any suggestions??
Thanks again!
 
thebigt said:
topical formestane is in my opinion the best single non-ph supplement on the market. if i had just one supplement i could buy, topical formestane is by far the most bang for the buck. post what your goals are, and i am sure you will get lots of help designing the best way to use the formestane.
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Also i forgot to ask what type of results are typically achieved by using the CEL formestane?? just reduced estrogen or can you gain clean dry strength from it as well?
 
qwerty33 said:
would cel form with Mega Drol by BOSC work well together? Mega Drol is pheraplex clone. Phera seem to be lil wet so i was wondering if form the last 2 weeks on and 2 weeks into ptc would work well?
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It stacks fine with our P-Plex at 100 mg per day on cycle with a 2 week overlap into PCT, so if their product is a phera clone the same should work for that.

wolfe14 said:
Also i forgot to ask what type of results are typically achieved by using the CEL formestane?? just reduced estrogen or can you gain clean dry strength from it as well?
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I will let BigT elaborate more, but common gains with topical formestane are improved libido, lean muscle and strength gains, and fat loss.
 
wolfe14 said:
Thanks Big T...My goals are to continue to add strength but mainly to shred and lower BF% on midsection..The ONLY fat i hold more like (Blubber) is in the abdominal and lower back region and I diet good and workout intensely but can not get defined or lose that fat..The body fat analyzer at my gym reads 16% BF and I assure u it all seems to be in that region..I am on week 7 of a 12 week asteroid stack and def getting stonger so i was going to use the Form along with Vat attack and slim xtreme to achieve that ripped hard look> Once I accomplish that and get my BF down then I'm either going to run my first test cycle or incorperate a PH...Any suggestions??
Thanks again!
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this is where formestane shines in my opinion-fatloss/strength and drying out of excess water, usually caused by estrogen. along with the anti-cort and slimx td formestane should show some very noticeable results. start at 2 pumps 2xday for 2-3 days and then go to 4 pumps 2xday, don't forget to taper down at the end. oh yeah, don't be surprised if libido increases.:147:
 
thebigt said:
this is where formestane shines in my opinion-fatloss/strength and drying out of excess water, usually caused by estrogen. along with the anti-cort and slimx td formestane should show some very noticeable results. start at 2 pumps 2xday for 2-3 days and then go to 4 pumps 2xday, don't forget to taper down at the end. oh yeah, don't be surprised if libido increases.:147:
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Thanks but ooooopps i started at 4 pumps twice a day and its been 5 days on it now..Is that a problem? Also how long should i stay on it and exactly when should i start my taper off? also i've added Eviscerate to this stack applying to my abs and love handles twice day..How well should that work?
 
wolfe14 said:
Thanks but ooooopps i started at 4 pumps twice a day and its been 5 days on it now..Is that a problem? Also how long should i stay on it and exactly when should i start my taper off? also i've added Eviscerate to this stack applying to my abs and love handles twice day..How well should that work?
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no problem. you could use for 2 months, tapering last week to 10 days. i've never used eviscerate.
 
Not sure if it's been asked before, so apologies if it has; but say I wanted to add some bulk ATD or extra Form into the bottle - how much could I roughly add before the carrier becomes saturated?
 
adil said:
Not sure if it's been asked before, so apologies if it has; but say I wanted to add some bulk ATD or extra Form into the bottle - how much could I roughly add before the carrier becomes saturated?
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I dont think i would add anymore to it......what is the reasoning in doing this? To last longer or higher dosage?
 
Why do you want to do this?
Mixing ATD with Formestane doesn’t sound like a great idea, in my opinion. And the TD-Form isn't under dosed in the least. It's actually a damn good mixture than applies well.
adil said:
Not sure if it's been asked before, so apologies if it has; but say I wanted to add some bulk ATD or extra Form into the bottle - how much could I roughly add before the carrier becomes saturated?
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What dose/taper formestane would you guys recommend to remove gyno if it appears? I am considering running m-drol once a week and was wondering what you thought was sensible dosages if I start to get nipple problems....
 
Yes, Im using it for a little boost to bring up a lagging part...yes I know there are better ways but im keeping things 100% legal at this time...
 
geez, i have no comment, at least until i get up off the floor. :outtahere:
 
Random181 said:
Yes, Im using it for a little boost to bring up a lagging part...yes I know there are better ways but im keeping things 100% legal at this time...
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I dont think this "theory" is going to do much for you...please reconsider:)
 
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