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Formestane - Estrogen Control Agent - Topical

W8TS4ME said:
lol......bigt thanks have another question that I think everyone (well most everyone) may have. Its recommended that the form be applied twice a day and I apply at morning upon waking up and just before bed after shower.NOW........heres the question.....

If libido is up (and so far its been up and boys been hanging around really low) and I applied it as stated after shower before bed and wife and I start to get that groove on (sex) will the form have a chance of transfering or should I wait several hours??


one more question......It seems that the form is more than an AI?? As I read these threads it seems to give strenght and tightens up where applied. I applied this morning to stomach and boy it started to tighten up really fast.....is the form more than and AI?? Your feedback appreciated.
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BigT can probably go into more detail than I about some of what you are asking. As far as transfering, that is a worry with any topical. I always suggest being cautious of the possibility, even though it isnt likely.
 
W8TS4ME said:
It seems that the form is more than an AI??
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Yes. It's a super mild ph to 4OT. Formestane info is to find with a few minutes of googling. It'd be well worth it for you to get a better understanding. At the same time, much of what we've learned, is right here in this thread and a few others regarding formestane.

There's 20-30 pages of posts in Neoborn's Eform thread (Eform no longer exists, but CEL"s picked up the slack FYI)
 
celc5 said:
Yes. It's a super mild ph to 4OT. Formestane info is to find with a few minutes of googling. It'd be well worth it for you to get a better understanding. At the same time, much of what we've learned, is right here in this thread and a few others regarding formestane.

There's 20-30 pages of posts in Neoborn's Eform thread (Eform no longer exists, but CEL"s picked up the slack FYI)
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agreed. damn, celc it seems like we have been discussing formestane for most of our lives. to op, i agree with bryan about caution concerning transfer, what i suggest is sex first then applying-although i really believe the amount of transfer could not be a problem with transfer to your wife. reason being it was once prescibed to women, i would however wear a shirt and socks when playing with your son within 2 hours of applying, after that should be fine.
 
thebigt said:
agreed. damn, celc it seems like we have been discussing formestane for most of our lives. to op, i agree with bryan about caution concerning transfer, what i suggest is sex first then applying-although i really believe the amount of transfer could not be a problem with transfer to your wife. reason being it was once prescibed to women, i would however wear a shirt and socks when playing with your son within 2 hours of applying, after that should be fine.
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Agreed. I have some friends that are on androgel for HRT and they just apply to areas that they can cover with clothes. For example, he applies after his kids go to school and then wears longs pants and a shirt to cover trunk and thighs.
 
I have noticed over the past three applications of the td form that there is some sort of fiberglass looking material that is in the product. Is this normal?? I have shaked the bottle well and thought that maybe the first application I did not shake well enough. Now I shake it for two to three minutes and still have fiberglass looking material on my skin when td form applied. Is this the gritty stuff people were talking about?? any thoughts?
 
W8TS4ME said:
I have noticed over the past three applications of the td form that there is some sort of fiberglass looking material that is in the product. Is this normal?? I have shaked the bottle well and thought that maybe the first application I did not shake well enough. Now I shake it for two to three minutes and still have fiberglass looking material on my skin when td form applied. Is this the gritty stuff people were talking about?? any thoughts?
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hold the bottle under hot water for few minutes then shake well. also try keeping the bottle turned upside down when not using-i did this and it did not leak. i didn't do this because i had problems, just as preventive measure.
 
I used to think the crystals were form coming out of solution. But I've had the crystals frequently with no loss of effectiveness, that is with pre-made batches of Eform and CEL anyhow.

My own home brews crash every time... I got an "F" in transdermals 101 :stupid:
 
celc5 said:
I used to think the crystals were form coming out of solution. But I've had the crystals frequently with no loss of effectiveness, that is with pre-made batches of Eform and CEL anyhow.

My own home brews crash every time... I got an "F" in transdermals 101 :stupid:
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haha, i swear by pre-made like cel's with formestane, trione and atd are not as much of a beast. even if no loss in effectiveness heat will remove the crystals, and keeping bottle upside down will prevent settling.
 
thebigt said:
haha, i swear by pre-made like cel's with formestane, trione and atd are not as much of a beast. even if no loss in effectiveness heat will remove the crystals, and keeping bottle upside down will prevent settling.
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thanks fella's will certainly do this. Should about two minutes under hot water do the trick?? is it the hottest of tap water or just hot if that makes sense?

thanks for your time.
 
W8TS4ME said:
thanks fella's will certainly do this. Should about two minutes under hot water do the trick?? is it the hottest of tap water or just hot if that makes sense?

thanks for your time.
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hot tap water should do it, if not bring water to boil in pan remove from heat and put bottle of form in for around 5 minutes. like i said hot tap water should do it. good luck, and enjoy the form.
 
Dang, I am frustrated! Just finished a mild cycle of promagnon. Started using Cel's Form, 4 pumps 2 times per day. Notice a little tingling after app and that sortt of tightnessd in my hands that I seem to get from estrogen reduction when I am on Epi but not getting much else! I am on day 5 or 6 now and I was so excited about the LIBIDO BOOST everyone has been raving about. I am not shut down from the cycle but I was desparate for the libido boost as this is something I was soooo excited about and now I am getting nothing. Somebody please help. I feel like an outcast!!!!!!!!
 
luclyluciano said:
Dang, I am frustrated! Just finished a mild cycle of promagnon. Started using Cel's Form, 4 pumps 2 times per day. Notice a little tingling after app and that sortt of tightnessd in my hands that I seem to get from estrogen reduction when I am on Epi but not getting much else! I am on day 5 or 6 now and I was so excited about the LIBIDO BOOST everyone has been raving about. I am not shut down from the cycle but I was desparate for the libido boost as this is something I was soooo excited about and now I am getting nothing. Somebody please help. I feel like an outcast!!!!!!!!
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How long was the cycle? Suppression is often times more then what you may feel and restoration could take a little bit longer then you would think.
 
luclyluciano said:
Dang, I am frustrated! Just finished a mild cycle of promagnon. Started using Cel's Form, 4 pumps 2 times per day. Notice a little tingling after app and that sortt of tightnessd in my hands that I seem to get from estrogen reduction when I am on Epi but not getting much else! I am on day 5 or 6 now and I was so excited about the LIBIDO BOOST everyone has been raving about. I am not shut down from the cycle but I was desparate for the libido boost as this is something I was soooo excited about and now I am getting nothing. Somebody please help. I feel like an outcast!!!!!!!!
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If your PCT is sans a SERM, then it's gonna take a bit longer for you to recover, and a bit longer for you to start noticing recovery.
 
luclyluciano said:
Dang, I am frustrated! Just finished a mild cycle of promagnon. Started using Cel's Form, 4 pumps 2 times per day. Notice a little tingling after app and that sortt of tightnessd in my hands that I seem to get from estrogen reduction when I am on Epi but not getting much else! I am on day 5 or 6 now and I was so excited about the LIBIDO BOOST everyone has been raving about. I am not shut down from the cycle but I was desparate for the libido boost as this is something I was soooo excited about and now I am getting nothing. Somebody please help. I feel like an outcast!!!!!!!!
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Libido boost is an individual thing, be patient. Plus it depends on what your cycle was, individual response, dosage, etc.
 
luciano,
you can be sure that the formestane is still controlling estrogen well, even if you aren't getting the libido boost. However, in pct, formestane never gave me a libido, strength, or aggression boost. I prefer it ON cycle and in nha stacks.

GMG,
unless it was rediculously aggressive dosing, I disagree with your post. IMO a serm has no place in a pmag solo run.

With pmag, there's not much loss of libido or testicular mass so I wouldn't need clomid. There's virtually no gyno risk (unless you had a history of gyno) so I wouldn't need Nolva.

Finally, luciano used formestane as his AI. Form + a serm would equal some low estrogen symptoms. IME vision suffered for me with that combo.
 
would post cycle support + CEL form be enough for a 4 wk epi ptc? at around 40mg? Or would a serm be needed

What about a 5 wk h-drol at 50/50/75/75/75?

Thanks guys
 
serm v no serm is a worthless arguement. even if supp co's came out with a product that tested more effective than serms, there would still be those that line up on the side of needing a serm. it all comes down to you have to go with what you feel comfortable with, remember serms have both advantages and disadvantages. do your research and make an informed decision on whats best for you for the compound you are using.
 
celc5 said:
luciano,
you can be sure that the formestane is still controlling estrogen well, even if you aren't getting the libido boost. However, in pct, formestane never gave me a libido, strength, or aggression boost. I prefer it ON cycle and in nha stacks.

GMG,
unless it was rediculously aggressive dosing, I disagree with your post. IMO a serm has no place in a pmag solo run.

With pmag, there's not much loss of libido or testicular mass so I wouldn't need clomid. There's virtually no gyno risk (unless you had a history of gyno) so I wouldn't need Nolva.

Finally, luciano used formestane as his AI. Form + a serm would equal some low estrogen symptoms. IME vision suffered for me with that combo.
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I failed to see that he said he wasn't shut down from the cycle. I tend to agree with you, I just thought he was shut down and looking for his libido to kick back in on my first read through.
 
qwerty33 said:
would post cycle support + CEL form be enough for a 4 wk epi ptc? at around 40mg? Or would a serm be needed

What about a 5 wk h-drol at 50/50/75/75/75?

Thanks guys
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You could go with our PCT Assist + our topical formestane, but personally I would run the topical formestane on cycle and overlap it 2 weeks into PCT, with my PCT being Inhibit-E and Liver Assist XT by SNS along with PCT Assist by us.
 
ok but why? epi and h-drol will control estro while on. So why would form be needed during? Curious why you rec inhibit-e if estro is controlled with form and pct assist/ post cycle support raise test?

is inhibit-e atd?

Thanks CEL
 
qwerty33 said:
ok but why? epi and h-drol will control estro while on. So why would form be needed during? Curious why you rec inhibit-e if estro is controlled with form and pct assist/ post cycle support raise test?

is inhibit-e atd?

Thanks CEL
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Epi and H-Drol do not control estrogen while on cycle. People seem to think that because certain things dont aromatize that you dont have to worry about anti-e's and thats not the case.

I would run topical formestane on cycle because it is a good on cycle anti-e that has other effects that compliment H-Drol very well in my opinion.

I recomend Inhibit-E because it is what I personally use myself for an anti-e in my own personal PCT. I recomend PCT Assist as a natural test booster with anti-estrogen properties.

My personal PCT for most cycles is Inhibit-E and Liver Assist XT by SNS, along with PCT Assist and Suppress-C by us. I think Suppress-C is optional, but I would use it myself.

I love topical formestane, but I use it on my cycles with an overlap into my PCT.
 
for h-drol 50/50/75/75/75 or epi 30/30/40/40.
I assume this works = well for both

-topical form your sugg dose for ptc (taper) staring last 2 weeks of cycle
-p.c.t assist 3am 3pm no taper
-cycle support for on and ptc (or can liver assist xt be used wile on also?)
why is this better?
-Endoamp max (cort ctrl)

I personally dont like ATD which is inhibit-e kills libido. Should i just save the topical form for wk1 of ptc with pct assist to get my hpta back to normal?

Thanks again CEL
 
Q,
of the 2 plans that you have laid out in your last post, IMO the Hdrol would be a more productive cycle and have an easier recovery.

The reason we use form ON cycle is because, as CEL said, it compliments recomp compounds well. More fat loss, more strength gain, more aggression. We're not worried about estrogenic sides from halo and epi... at the same time, I don't consider them estrogen control agents either.

When I kept my ATD dosage to 1 cap/day, my libido did not suffer. It was up a little actually at 1 cap. At 2 caps, I had shaky libido and altered sleep patterns. Plus, the Post Cycle Assist has a reputation for being very friendly to libido.

I was a non-responder to Endoamp. I've never tried the Max version.

Concerning form dosage, you could run 2 pumps twice per day ON cycle. Then 1 pump twice per day for the first 2 weeks of pct alongside of 1 cap ATD. Then once you drop the form, you could interpret that as beginning to taper your estrogen control overall.
 
qwerty33 said:
for h-drol 50/50/75/75/75 or epi 30/30/40/40.
I assume this works = well for both

-topical form your sugg dose for ptc (taper) staring last 2 weeks of cycle
-p.c.t assist 3am 3pm no taper
-cycle support for on and ptc (or can liver assist xt be used wile on also?)
why is this better?
-Endoamp max (cort ctrl)

I personally dont like ATD which is inhibit-e kills libido. Should i just save the topical form for wk1 of ptc with pct assist to get my hpta back to normal?

Thanks again CEL
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I use topical formestane on cycle at 100 mg per day, then overlap it into PCT with it being 100 mg per day the first week of PCT, and 50 mg per day the second week of PCT.

Cycle Assist should be used on cycle before it is the more complete on cycle product. Liver Assist is a better choice than Cycle Assist and CS for PCT purposes because it is more specifically focused on liver detox and support.

For cortisol control, you would have a hard time finding anything more effective than our Suppress-C. If you want a capsule rather than a topical, I would use Reduce XT.

ATD normally only affects libido at above 50 mg per day. Plus if you do the form overlap with it and/or are using PCT Assist, I doubt you would notice any libido issues at all.
 
celc5 said:
luciano,
you can be sure that the formestane is still controlling estrogen well, even if you aren't getting the libido boost. However, in pct, formestane never gave me a libido, strength, or aggression boost. I prefer it ON cycle and in nha stacks.

GMG,
unless it was rediculously aggressive dosing, I disagree with your post. IMO a serm has no place in a pmag solo run.

With pmag, there's not much loss of libido or testicular mass so I wouldn't need clomid. There's virtually no gyno risk (unless you had a history of gyno) so I wouldn't need Nolva.

Finally, luciano used formestane as his AI. Form + a serm would equal some low estrogen symptoms. IME vision suffered for me with that combo.
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thanx Celc...if Form doesn't do much for Libido after a mild cycle,, can u recommend something else? Again...I am not shut down but one of the benefits i was soooo excited about was the huuuuge libido boosting benefits people were raving about and now that it"s not there I have to admit, I am a little disappointed. Ithink I may be getting leaner...but this is hard to say for sure as I am attaking with cardio...running the treadmill everyday for 45 minutes and on an incline I might add...used to hate running now I kinda like the mental discipline required! I have some Maca and Fenugreek on hand, gonna start running that. It's just that my mind has been so set up for a libido boost by reading all the past Form posts, I kinda have been anticipating this for a long time saying to myself "I gotta run Formestane, I gotta run Formestane!" And now nothing!:surprised: I even bougght T-911, 2 bottles and surprisingly that stuff does absolutely nothing for me...must be a non responder there?
 
luclyluciano said:
thanx Celc...if Form doesn't do much for Libido after a mild cycle,, can u recommend something else? Again...I am not shut down but one of the benefits i was soooo excited about was the huuuuge libido boosting benefits people were raving about and now that it"s not there I have to admit, I am a little disappointed. Ithink I may be getting leaner...but this is hard to say for sure as I am attaking with cardio...running the treadmill everyday for 45 minutes and on an incline I might add...used to hate running now I kinda like the mental discipline required! I have some Maca and Fenugreek on hand, gonna start running that. It's just that my mind has been so set up for a libido boost by reading all the past Form posts, I kinda have been anticipating this for a long time saying to myself "I gotta run Formestane, I gotta run Formestane!" And now nothing!:surprised: I even bougght T-911, 2 bottles and surprisingly that stuff does absolutely nothing for me...must be a non responder there?
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Formestane helps alot of peoples libido, but some it doesnt. PCT Assist normally helps with libido ALOT.

That doesnt surprise me with the T-911.
 
luclyluciano said:
thanx Celc...if Form doesn't do much for Libido after a mild cycle,, can u recommend something else? Again...I am not shut down but one of the benefits i was soooo excited about was the huuuuge libido boosting benefits people were raving about and now that it"s not there I have to admit, I am a little disappointed. Ithink I may be getting leaner...but this is hard to say for sure as I am attaking with cardio...running the treadmill everyday for 45 minutes and on an incline I might add...used to hate running now I kinda like the mental discipline required! I have some Maca and Fenugreek on hand, gonna start running that. It's just that my mind has been so set up for a libido boost by reading all the past Form posts, I kinda have been anticipating this for a long time saying to myself "I gotta run Formestane, I gotta run Formestane!" And now nothing!:surprised: I even bougght T-911, 2 bottles and surprisingly that stuff does absolutely nothing for me...must be a non responder there?
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You are running 45 minutes a day on an incline during your PCT? Might want to cut that back to keep some gains bud.

How long have you given these supplements to judge your reaction from them? I thought formestane was great stuff, even dosed lower than 200mg. T911 worked for me as well.

I think you may be expecting a little too much. It's formestane, not viagra.
 
So i put this all together with everything CEL and celc told me. I also added my staples which I take normally and I have to say it looks good. I just got off 1-t tren 6wk bulk (great product) (TRS + clomi ptc) and probably will run my cycle below over and over from here on out. H-drol was my first cycle ever when it was sold in the gnc. Got me shredded and strong.

CEL H-drol*
50/50/75/75/75 CYCLE

Wk1:
50mg h-drol
Cycle Support 2.0 1 scoop

wk2:
50mg h-drol
Cycle Support 2.0 1 scoop

wk3:
75mg h-drol
Cycle Support 2.0 1 scoop

wk4:
75mg h-drol
CEL forme 100mg; 2 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Cycle Support 2.0 1 scoop

wk5:
75mg h-drol
CEL forme 100mg; 2 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)

PCT:

wk6:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
CEL forme 100mg; 2 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm

wk7:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
CEL forme 50mg; 1 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm

wk8:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

wk9:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

My Staples:
Triple strength fish oil
Flacseed oil
Xtend
No Shotgun pre-wo
ZMA pm
Opti-Men
Now Glucoseamine & Chrondroitin w/ MSM
100% Whey Mint Post-wo
Nitro Core 24 am-pm

My question for CEL & cel 5, is this perfected?

2nd- will i have room to apply the Supp-c and topic form when i hit wk 6 & 7 or should i get oral cort blocker?

3rd where is the best place to apply topic form and supp-c? upper body?

4th- CEL h-drol will stick around. Not like the tren products that are all getting pulled? I assume its safe since the gaspari-50's were pulled a long time ago?

5th- is cycle support/ CA necessary w/ h-drol since it is mild? This cycle is expensive as is

Thanks
 
GMG760 said:
You are running 45 minutes a day on an incline during your PCT? Might want to cut that back to keep some gains bud.

How long have you given these supplements to judge your reaction from them? I thought formestane was great stuff, even dosed lower than 200mg. T911 worked for me as well.

I think you may be expecting a little too much. It's formestane, not viagra.
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I don't know bout Viagara, never took it, how was for you? I ran H-roid/promagnon for recomp mainly from being off my training schedule for approx.1 year and getting a little fat around my midsection. I am running to further my recomp and was excited about the libido boost from Form as we'll as the other benefits. Was already disappointed with T-911 as it did nothing in all departments. Hope this helps clarify for you!
 
luclyluciano said:
I don't know bout Viagara, never took it, how was for you? I ran H-roid/promagnon for recomp mainly from being off my training schedule for approx.1 year and getting a little fat around my midsection. I am running to further my recomp and was excited about the libido boost from Form as we'll as the other benefits. Was already disappointed with T-911 as it did nothing in all departments. Hope this helps clarify for you!
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I haven't taken viagra either, I was being facetious.

I guess you ran them both for a month then? I was asking how long you had taken the supplements in question that did nothing for you.
 
qwerty33 said:
So i put this all together with everything CEL and celc told me. I also added my staples which I take normally and I have to say it looks good. I just got off 1-t tren 6wk bulk (great product) (TRS + clomi ptc) and probably will run my cycle below over and over from here on out. H-drol was my first cycle ever when it was sold in the gnc. Got me shredded and strong.

CEL H-drol*
50/50/75/75/75 CYCLE

Wk1:
50mg h-drol
Cycle Support 2.0 1 scoop

wk2:
50mg h-drol
Cycle Support 2.0 1 scoop

wk3:
75mg h-drol
Cycle Support 2.0 1 scoop

wk4:
75mg h-drol
CEL forme 100mg; 2 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Cycle Support 2.0 1 scoop

wk5:
75mg h-drol
CEL forme 100mg; 2 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)

PCT:

wk6:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
CEL forme 100mg; 2 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm

wk7:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
CEL forme 50mg; 1 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm

wk8:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

wk9:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

My Staples:
Triple strength fish oil
Flacseed oil
Xtend
No Shotgun pre-wo
ZMA pm
Opti-Men
Now Glucoseamine & Chrondroitin w/ MSM
100% Whey Mint Post-wo
Nitro Core 24 am-pm

My question for CEL & cel 5, is this perfected?

2nd- will i have room to apply the Supp-c and topic form when i hit wk 6 & 7 or should i get oral cort blocker?

3rd where is the best place to apply topic form and supp-c? upper body?

4th- CEL h-drol will stick around. Not like the tren products that are all getting pulled? I assume its safe since the gaspari-50's were pulled a long time ago?

5th- is cycle support/ CA necessary w/ h-drol since it is mild? This cycle is expensive as is

Thanks
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Thats alot of info. Notes:
- I would run H-Drol 50 mg per day the first week, then 75 mg per day thereafter
- I would add in the topical form at the beginning of week 3.
- Obviously I would suggest Cycle Assist over CS.
- The first 2 weeks of PCT I would run the Inhibit-E at 50 mg per day, but thats just me.
- H-Drol was never or at least should never have been sold in a GNC.

Answers:.
1. Perfection is a matter of opinion. I listed above what I would do.
2. You would have plenty of room to apply Suppress-C. You can use inside of thighs, arms, tops of feet, etc.
3. See above answer
4. No one knows the future of any of the ph's.
5. Cycle Assist should be taken on any ph cycle.

Let me know if I can help you further.

luclyluciano said:
I don't know bout Viagara, never took it, how was for you? I ran H-roid/promagnon for recomp mainly from being off my training schedule for approx.1 year and getting a little fat around my midsection. I am running to further my recomp and was excited about the libido boost from Form as we'll as the other benefits. Was already disappointed with T-911 as it did nothing in all departments. Hope this helps clarify for you!
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Topical formestane helps most people alot with libido, but everyone is different. PCT Assist should help alot.

For recomp, try the Suppress-C. I stacked it with RK-500 Xtreme and worked very well.
 
Q,
your plan looks fine to me.
There's some tweaks here and there for personal preference, but I don't see anything that looks like a "red flag" that could backfire in your plan.

Yes, running cycles is expensive. Don't run a cycle if you don't want to dish out the cash to do it right :nono: Don't forget about food cost also... when I'm bulking, my grocery bills hit the $50-75 per week mark very easily even though I'm a coupon, sale, and generic shopper most of the time.
 
GMG760 said:
I haven't taken viagra either, I was being facetious.

I guess you ran them both for a month then? I was asking how long you had taken the supplements in question that did nothing for you.
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T-911......I took 1 1/2 bottles, still have half left...I went as high as 6 pills in a day. Trust me....I felt nothing. Non responder maybe! I am not pleased.

Cel's Formestane...I am now on day 6.
 
Thanks will add in the Form starting wk3. and CS/CA while on

Chest, lats and traps are good points for topical cream right? Not just inner arms and thighs?

As for the Inhibit-E I probably will go 50mg for the first 3 days then drop it to 1 cap. I liked celc5 idea of 1cap only. As long as 1 cap gets my HPTA back in full swing.

Whats the shelf life on h-drol? or exp date
 
Yes, chest, lats and tri's are all good areas to apply. As long as it's in a area where skin is thinnes then you should be good to go. Tops of feet and behind the knees work really well too.

50mg is a good does for Inhibit E. I agree in the sense that its pretty strong and lower doses can in fact work as advertised.

Each bottle of hdrol comes with a listed expiration date(just check the bottle). If vaccum sealed and froze shelf life could be anywhere from 2-4yrs(maybe more).
 
froze meaning stored in a freezer correct? same goes for topical forme? I hope you guys still produce both h-drol and topical form. I love those products.

Supress-c is not being looked at by the fda right? All these threads and clearing of stock are makeing me crazy.
 
qwerty33 said:
froze meaning stored in a freezer correct? same goes for topical forme? I hope you guys still produce both h-drol and topical form. I love those products.

Supress-c is not being looked at by the fda right? All these threads and clearing of stock are makeing me crazy.
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I have no clue about freezing any topical. I doubt that would work out well.

No one knows what the FDA is doing right now, so its impossible to give you an accurate answer.
 
very true well as long as the form can last 1 year im all good. I stocked up last night on h-drol and cel form :)
 
qwerty33 said:
very true well as long as the form can last 1 year im all good. I stocked up last night on h-drol and cel form :)
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Yes, frozen. I see others say that topicals usually have a standard shelf life of 2yrs, so you should be good to go.
 
I have a few open bottles of the "old stuff," maybe 2-3ish years old and it works just like I bought it yesterday. It's been sitting in the bottom drawer in my bathroom, and I haven't done anything special with it concerning storage.
 
glad to hear since in have half a bottle of the old stuff also that has been in a zip lock for 6mths. Plan on useing it with my next h-drol run
 
I was referring to old TD's. But also, I don't freeze orals. MAYBE if I had something that was well past the expiration date by a year or 2. I've never heard of less results even with orals that have been "expired" for over a year. IMO people like to sound smart with all their air tight locked freezer bags :laugh:
 
does it matter if TD's are stored on their side? Best to shake em up every mth or something? freezing orals i feel would not change anything
 
qwerty33 said:
does it matter if TD's are stored on their side? Best to shake em up every mth or something? freezing orals i feel would not change anything
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heat/heat/heat. if you have topical form that has been sitting for a while, just hold it under hot tap water for a few minutes and shake the hell out of it-should be just fine, i find old bottles of td formestane all the time.
 
Ok, this thread got me antsy and I threw on 100mg TD form preworkout today just to "remind" me what it's about... pump and drive immediately :head:

Vascularity was up during the workout and I had a little increased aggression. I'm a few hours post workout now and libido is up too.

That's just one dose and I haven't touched anything hormonal for maybe 6 or 8 weeks :think: Maybe I'm just lucky but this stuff is my fav :thumbsup:
 
yea man if anything i hope cel doesnt have to stop making it and h-drol. My fav compounds hands down.
 
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