FORMERON FAQ

EatMoar said:
That's awesome. Lol self experimentation, god I need to dabble in some of that. You have a crazy amount of knowledge man.

I think I'm just going to order like 4-5 bottles and keep running this for a while. At what point (pump wise) does it become suppressive?
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Ive never seen it be suppressive. I assume at some point it will be but its well above what most people will ever use.
Probably in the 600mg+ daily range. Or like 8+ pumps.
This is considering absorption and then % of conversion to a suppressive compound.
 
brundel said:
Ive never seen it be suppressive. I assume at some point it will be but its well above what most people will ever use. Probably in the 600mg+ daily range. Or like 8+ pumps. This is considering absorption and then % of conversion to a suppressive compound.
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Mkay, Good to know. I don't plan on using 8 pumps lol.
 
EatMoar said:
Mkay, Good to know. I don't plan on using 8 pumps lol.
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4 pumps is plenty, just coming to the end of my third bottle and all has been great, strength increase, pumps, and general size increase (not massive but nice) slight fat loss. having a break (don't wanna) for a month and then i'll get myself some more.

Brundel any incinderine in the pipeline, obviously once you are feeling better mate?
 
MikeST said:
4 pumps is plenty, just coming to the end of my third bottle and all has been great, strength increase, pumps, and general size increase (not massive but nice) slight fat loss. having a break (don't wanna) for a month and then i'll get myself some more. Brundel any incinderine in the pipeline, obviously once you are feeling better mate?
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Like you say, 4 pumps is plenty. Also too expensive to go extra pumps. I'm currently on my 3rd bottle at 4 pumps. Don't want to stop either. It's keeping me lean & pumped. All good things must come to an end though :(
 
2 pumps a day in the AM is killing my shoulders during my PM workouts. I'm guessing it's the Formeron drying me out as nothing else I am taking should be effecting my joints like this. Well at least I know it's working.
 
How long should one wait after cycling another AI such as Erase? The product's label states to take a 4 week break before using any other hormonal. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
 
MikeST said:
4 pumps is plenty, just coming to the end of my third bottle and all has been great, strength increase, pumps, and general size increase (not massive but nice) slight fat loss. having a break (don't wanna) for a month and then i'll get myself some more.

Brundel any incinderine in the pipeline, obviously once you are feeling better mate?
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I have the raws in house now. GOnna send them off this week or early next week.
So...estimated 2 weeks. till I have some to send to retailers. :)
 
uubiduu said:
brundel how would you compare formestane to 6-bromo?anabolic effect,suppression etc
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Ive never used 6 bromo.
From my understanding-

Formeron is a better AI.
Less suppressive.
Equally or more anabolic depending on dosage.
 
BigGame84 said:
2 pumps a day in the AM is killing my shoulders during my PM workouts. I'm guessing it's the Formeron drying me out as nothing else I am taking should be effecting my joints like this. Well at least I know it's working.
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Unfortunately this can be an issue for some. Especially guys who have not used anything in the past.
My first AI use I could barely train my elbows and shoulders hurt so bad.

I trained through it but take it easy if you do so you dont injure yourself.
Or cut the dose in half to 1 pump.
 
MaXopA said:
How long should one wait after cycling another AI such as Erase? The product's label states to take a 4 week break before using any other hormonal. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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Technically if its an AI you can just continue use as there is no suppression.
 
I've been using formeron the last 3 or 4 days and enjoying the effects. I'm super gyno prone, and pretty much anything that has any kind of muscle enhancing effects gives me pain behind my left nipple, and nipple sensitivity. I had been using Erase (not sure if old formula or new) as an ai alongside anabeta elite, but the Erase was doing nothing to control my symptoms, even at full dose of 3 caps per day. Right from the first dose of Formeron I've noticed great improvement, although one squirt a day wasn't enough, as 10-12 hours later my discomfort had been returning. I've added a second dose in the evening, and after a few days of 1 squirt twice daily there's been minimal nipple pain/sensitivity. Very good stuff so far, only concern I have is whether I can get a second bottle past Canadian customs in the mail...

What is the half life of Formestane? Once enough of it builds up in the system, is once a day dosing sufficient to keep some in the bloodstream all day?

I recall it being mentioned that hand sanitizers can be of use for increased absorption earlier in this thread. My concerns with that is the possibility of endocrine disruption from triclosan, as well as similar concerns with parabens. Due to the alcohol in the hand sanitizer, wouldn't any of these kind of ingredients be shuttled right through your skin and into your body at least to a certain degree? Would dabbing the area with an alcohol wipe instead be of use?
 
Ive seen several reports regarding half life. I believe it to be in the 24 hour + range.
THis doesnt mean 2 doses isnt needed though.
Not many people can get away with 1 pump a day dose.

It is a suicidal AI so it takes a while for aromatase to rise and then estrogen to rise again after you stop using the Formeron.
Hand sanitizer can help in some instances. USe one with aloe or vit E or both. Not all hand sanitizers have triclosan. I dont see it listed on either of the 2 different brands I have in my medicine cabinet.

I dont think there is any reason to be concerned with endocrine problems using hand sanitizer.

I would continue at the 2 pump dose.
 
Thanks for the quick reply. If I am to apply lotion to the sight of application, how long after applying should I be safe to do so in order to avoid affecting formeron absorption? I ask because I've run into skin irritations in the past from other transdermal formulas.

I think I was a little quick to proclaim myself symptom free in the nipple area, I still get the occasional twinge/sensation in the area. I'll likely bump up from 2 slow pumps to 1 fast pump and 1 slow pump, and adjust upwards as needed.
 
max silver said:
Thanks for the quick reply. If I am to apply lotion to the sight of application, how long after applying should I be safe to do so in order to avoid affecting formeron absorption? I ask because I've run into skin irritations in the past from other transdermal formulas.

I think I was a little quick to proclaim myself symptom free in the nipple area, I still get the occasional twinge/sensation in the area. I'll likely bump up from 2 slow pumps to 1 fast pump and 1 slow pump, and adjust upwards as needed.
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Our transdermal formula is alot less irritating than almost all of the transdermal preps on the market.
Still, if you have reason to use a lotion afterward try to do so as far away from your applications as possible.
I would split application sites. Lots of lotions have oils in them which can negatively effect absorption of certain compounds.

So....Upper chest, neck, delts area. Use wrists to rub in, not hands. Apply lotion at least a few hours after.
Second application use inner thighs. Also using wrist not hands to apply as anything on the hands is wasted.

You can always bump up the dose until estro gets under control and then back off to a maintenance dose.
 
brundel said:
Our transdermal formula is alot less irritating than almost all of the transdermal preps on the market.
Still, if you have reason to use a lotion afterward try to do so as far away from your applications as possible.
I would split application sites. Lots of lotions have oils in them which can negatively effect absorption of certain compounds.

So....Upper chest, neck, delts area. Use wrists to rub in, not hands. Apply lotion at least a few hours after.
Second application use inner thighs. Also using wrist not hands to apply as anything on the hands is wasted.

You can always bump up the dose until estro gets under control and then back off to a maintenance dose.
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I think I may hold off on bumping up to dose too much until I get another bottle. I have one ordered, but it's a crapshoot as to whether or not it'll be inspected by Canadian customs. Also, I've been using nitrile gloves to apply, so no worry about wasting product due to using hands to apply. The gloves are cheap to pick up in large quantities from costco thankfully.

I will hold off on using lotion until I determine I actually have any issues. With other transdermal formulas it takes about a week until any irritation pops up.
 
Brundel, would running Formeron at 2 pumps with 20-30mg epi suppress estrogen too much? I'm looking at a 30-45 day run. Thanks
 
hrdgain81 said:
Brundel, would running Formeron at 2 pumps with 20-30mg epi suppress estrogen too much? I'm looking at a 30-45 day run. Thanks
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Short term it shouldnt be an issue.
If joints start to hurt back off on the Formeron dose a bit.

Someone else just finished a similar cycle and he gained 17lbs lol.
I think its in this thread somewhere...

just read through the 100 pages and find it lol JK
 
brundel said:
Short term it shouldnt be an issue.
If joints start to hurt back off on the Formeron dose a bit.

Someone else just finished a similar cycle and he gained 17lbs lol.
I think its in this thread somewhere...

just read through the 100 pages and find it lol JK
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Thanks again brundel, you have been awesome with all the info and quick responses. If BLR was publicly traded I'd be buying your stock like I'm buying your products.
 
The problem, if you want to call it one, is that there really never needs to be a deal because they can't keep BLR products in stock at full price. But, that just shows the quality that is going out.
 
kisaj said:
The problem, if you want to call it one, is that there really never needs to be a deal because they can't keep BLR products in stock at full price. But, that just shows the quality that is going out.
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This is a good problem to have. Im trying to solve it though.
Id rather have everything in stock because..it would still sell.

Im trying to setup a reorder when I get to 50% stock on things. Hopefully this will help keep everyone in stock.
 
RipdnTxs said:
Any idea when Formeron will b back at Nutraplanet ???
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I shipped to them yesterday.
We have dozens of other retailers if NP is out of stock. NP is one of my favorites but they make very small orders and are out of stock at least as much as they are in stock.
 
One guy said he had flared gyno and stopped when he dropped the doseage. Doesn't make any sense to me. But it definitely wasn't formeron.
 
Brundel, I'm finishing a pretty long blast of test e at 600mg/week. Last inject was yesterday. I'll be running torem, and nolva for SERMs, but was curious if you'd be willing to work something out if I replaced my aromasin with formeron and posted bloods afterwards
 
steppinRazor said:
Brundel, I'm finishing a pretty long blast of test e at 600mg/week. Last inject was yesterday. I'll be running torem, and nolva for SERMs, but was curious if you'd be willing to work something out if I replaced my aromasin with formeron and posted bloods afterwards
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I dont understand using 2 serms. Serms are estrogens and there are often side effects. Id choose one. Its like saying your going to take an nsaid and an nsaid for a headache. Makes no sense. I know lots of guys do it but there is no valid reason to do so.


Formeron can replace aromsin yes.
Thank you for the offer but there are dozens of blood results already. No need to spend money to validate a product so well documented with previous blood results.
 
On my third bottle and not looking back. only using 2 pumps and I feel a difference still. Not that alpha 4 pump god feeling but strength is still up. I use 2 pumps 45-1hr preworkout, game over basically.
 
brundel said:
I dont understand using 2 serms. Serms are estrogens and there are often side effects. Id choose one. Its like saying your going to take an nsaid and an nsaid for a headache. Makes no sense. I know lots of guys do it but there is no valid reason to do so.


Formeron can replace aromsin yes.
Thank you for the offer but there are dozens of blood results already. No need to spend money to validate a product so well documented with previous blood results.
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As far as the two SERMs I was under the impression tamoxifen and clomid work under different MOAs.. Clomid doesn't agree with me and I've heard torem is a great substitute.. Anyways thanks for the response. I'm curious about running forma for this pct just because I've had good experience stand alone and have used it on cycle (back when I did orals only)
 
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