For the guys hopping on DHT based PH's (epiandro)

[netflixNchill]

How are you planning to protect your prostate?

 

[Burnfire]

ultra natural prostate by life extension seems to have a solid profile. Maybe someone else can chime in on this

 

[netflixNchill]

I've never used epiandro and OL's new product will require me to use it at 500mg a day which blows away all the competition, and if the SEDDS delivery works then I'm FURKD in a good/bad way. Wish epiandro had a longer half life so I could just dose 250mg once a day?

 

[Dragoninho]

Keep my estrogen levels in check...

 

[warrior737]

Saw palmetto

 

[VaughnTrue]

 

[netflixNchill]

Sold!^

 

[T-Bone]

I actually had my prostate feel much better when I used Antaeus Labs Ultra Stano. Didn't get anything out of it as far as ergogenic benefits though. It did help with libido a lot though. This was at 1 gram per day too. I won't be running epiandro again ever because there are other products I can use for libido. Epiandro is just not for me.

 

[netflixNchill]

I plan to use it for a mini cut along with some 11oxo

 

[VaughnTrue]

I plan to use it for a mini cut along with some 11oxo

I loved 11oxo when I ran it. I used an INSANE dose however(buying in bulk when it was available in powder was great).

Wish it was still readily available

 

[Mister_T_]

I actually had my prostate feel much better when I used Antaeus Labs Ultra Stano. Didn't get anything out of it as far as ergogenic benefits though. It did help with libido a lot though. This was at 1 gram per day too. I won't be running epiandro again ever because there are other products I can use for libido. Epiandro is just not for me.

T-Bone please list some examples of other libido products. Just cause "the more the merrier" haha

 

[VaughnTrue]

T-Bone please list some examples of other libido products. Just cause "the more the merrier" haha

4-dhea/4-andro
3,4divanil
MACA
longjack
epimedium
nitrates
fadogia

all make my list

 

[T-Bone]

4-dhea/4-andro
3,4divanil
MACA
longjack
epimedium
nitrates
fadogia

all make my list

Fenugreek works really well in 2-3 week cycles.

 

[Mister_T_]

I have a bottle of the epi elite on its way and i'm planning on running it at 750mg. So far I haven't noticed any issue whatsoever in the prostate region. I do still plan on running a SERM PCT in case of any rebound.

 

[Mister_T_]

4-dhea/4-andro
3,4divanil
MACA
longjack
epimedium
nitrates
fadogia

all make my list

I will have to look into the 3,4divanil...

Some research I have done suggests that when 4-andro converts in the body...its the same as running an epiandro product. If I am correct, 4 andro coverts to test and epiandro converts to DHT.

 

[VaughnTrue]

I will have to look into the 3,4divanil...

Some research I have done suggests that when 4-andro converts in the body...its the same as running an epiandro product. If I am correct, 4 andro coverts to test and epiandro converts to DHT.

epi convert to DHT
4-dhea/andro converts to testosterone


testosterone and dht have very different roles in the body, so I would not consider them equal by any means. both very fun compounds however.

 

[Thefatbloke]

There is a lot of misunderstanding about prostatic hypertrophy and DHT. Whilst DHT is required for the prostate to grow, oestrogen has to be either raised or relatively high as well. DHT with a normal oestrogen does not cause prostate problems, in fact in some countries (France) DHT topical gel is used as treatment for BPH as the anti-aromatase effect reduces oestrogen and reduces the size of the prostate.

Epi-Andro is already 5alpha reduced and therefore 5AR inhibitors like Saw Palmetto would have no effect at all. Dragoninho has the right idea here if you want to try anything then controlling oestrogen is an option, but given that DHT does this by itself, then you probably dont need to worry about your prostate at all unless you know you have a raised oestrogen level.

 

[T-Bone]

There is a lot of misunderstanding about prostatic hypertrophy and DHT. Whilst DHT is required for the prostate to grow, oestrogen has to be either raised or relatively high as well. DHT with a normal oestrogen does not cause prostate problems, in fact in some countries (France) DHT topical gel is used as treatment for BPH as the anti-aromatase effect reduces oestrogen and reduces the size of the prostate.

Epi-Andro is already 5alpha reduced and therefore 5AR inhibitors like Saw Palmetto would have no effect at all. Dragoninho has the right idea here if you want to try anything then controlling oestrogen is an option, but given that DHT does this by itself, then you probably dont need to worry about your prostate at all unless you know you have a raised oestrogen level.

So that's why taking high doses of epi-andro actually helped my prostate!.

 

[netflixNchill]

That...and big bubba from the back

 

[T-Bone]

That...and big bubba from the back

Keep your personal home remedies to yourself.

 

[Dragoninho]

There is a lot of misunderstanding about prostatic hypertrophy and DHT. Whilst DHT is required for the prostate to grow, oestrogen has to be either raised or relatively high as well. DHT with a normal oestrogen does not cause prostate problems, in fact in some countries (France) DHT topical gel is used as treatment for BPH as the anti-aromatase effect reduces oestrogen and reduces the size of the prostate.

Epi-Andro is already 5alpha reduced and therefore 5AR inhibitors like Saw Palmetto would have no effect at all. Dragoninho has the right idea here if you want to try anything then controlling oestrogen is an option, but given that DHT does this by itself, then you probably dont need to worry about your prostate at all unless you know you have a raised oestrogen level.

That´s what I said.. without this good explaination .

 

[Dma378]

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/732585

Pretty easy read here. Trying to find some details on rate of conversion of epiandro to DHT, mg/mg. This study was on 70mg/day TD application. Not sure how that translates to 500-750mg of epiandro.