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Follidrone Formeron Mass550 PermaSwole - Hardgainer Log

Joshlm69 said:
Do you think its worth taking Alphamine while lean bulking? Stimulants affect my libido a bit weirdly, wasn't really keen on taking it daily incase it caused 'stimdick' etc, i may be making it up in my head though
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I think Alphamine (or anything with yohimbine) is best taken on a cut/recomp unless you do fasted training/intermittent fasting, or if you just like Alphamine as your pre-workout.
 
ma70 said:
I think Alphamine (or anything with yohimbine) is best taken on a cut/recomp unless you do fasted training/intermittent fasting, or if you just like Alphamine as your pre-workout.
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Uk version of alphamine doesn't contain yohimbine, it's banned here :(
 
ma70 said:
Oh, oops. What's the ingredient profile on it?
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Serving Size: 1 Scoop (3 g)
Servings Per Container: 84



Amount Per Serving



Alphamine FIT Matrix 1567.5 mg



Lean Performance System

Choline Bitartrate, Alpha-Hydroxy-Isocaproic Acid, Eucommia Ulmoides Leaf (98% Chlorogenic Acid), Olea Europaea Leaf (Extracted for Oleuropein)


Ergo-Thermogenic System

Caffeine Anhydrous, Higenamine HCl, N-(2-hydroxy-2-p-methoxyphenylethyl) benzamide


N-Coumaroyldopamine 10 mg




Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Silicon Dioxide, Sucralose, Acesulfame-K, Vegetable Stearate, Beet Juice Concentrate Powder.
 
Normal Supp Intake

2 follidrone pwo
1 viron after breakfast
3 Opti-Men after breakfast
1 pack of Animal Flex after breakfast
2 Goji Berries 2000mg each after breakfast
3-6 yohimbine when training in the moning (starting at 3, working up)
3 scoops trutein through the day
1 scoop creatine & 1 scoop instant oats post workout shake
3 ZMA 1 hour before bed

Ordered some L-Cartinine to supplement diet with, probably 2g a day, anyone have any experience with L-Cartinine?
 
Nice shoulder session today, enjoyed it, legs are pretty sore from squats yestetday

Military Press - Slow on the way down, 3-4 seconds

44 x 20
110 x 6
110 x 6
110 x 6
110 x 6
100 x 6

Arnie Press

97 x 9
97 x 7
97 x 8
97 x 6

BB Upright rows

66 x 10
66 x 10
66 x 10

Side Laateral Raises

35 x 10
35 x 10
35 x 10

Front Laateral Raises

35 x 20
35 x 20
35 x 20

Shrugs, with Circle weight

110 x 10
110 x 10
110 x 10
110 x 10
110 x 10

Palm in Pullups

22 x 8
22 x 8
22 x 7

Did 10 minutes on the bike after just to loosen up my legs, but they literally were burning from doms so couldnt do anymore than that

Well deserved day off weights tomorrow, will probably do cardio tomorrow evening
 
Strong side lateral raises and shrugs! Nice job!
 
I was really counting on seeing an ABE 2-pack deal coming out or something but it never happened so I am over the hype of it honestly. Ppl rave about it but I haven't used it but Folli drives my hunger to great levels at times and I have figured out ways to ensure that its covered. You are eating to gain so I wont say it would hurt, but man....man its not cheap by any means. I think its addition wouldn't add that great a deal in terms of results when compared to the stacks overall price. If ya got a little extra to splurge and try out with it, then by all means go for it. Theres only one way to know.

Ive had a good buddy of mine use ABE for 8 weeks and he gained a few pounds but his diet wasn't actually on point. Funny thing is, no one else knew that, so I believe the results will greatly vary person to person when quality of food is observed.
 
TheMovement said:
I was really counting on seeing an ABE 2-pack deal coming out or something but it never happened so I am over the hype of it honestly. Ppl rave about it but I haven't used it but Folli drives my hunger to great levels at times and I have figured out ways to ensure that its covered. You are eating to gain so I wont say it would hurt, but man....man its not cheap by any means. I think its addition wouldn't add that great a deal in terms of results when compared to the stacks overall price. If ya got a little extra to splurge and try out with it, then by all means go for it. Theres only one way to know.

Ive had a good buddy of mine use ABE for 8 weeks and he gained a few pounds but his diet wasn't actually on point. Funny thing is, no one else knew that, so I believe the results will greatly vary person to person when quality of food is observed.
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I almost pulled the trigger! But I decided against it, to be honest I dont need to be adding in all these variables. The one thing I am interested in is Phosaphatic acid (or however its spelt) but its currently on back order with BB.co.uk

I did however pick myself up some Alphamine Fruit Punch ;). Just going to have 1 scoop a day when I wake up, just for the feel good really, and the energy carries me through the day!
 
Joshlm69 said:
I almost pulled the trigger! But I decided against it, to be honest I dont need to be adding in all these variables. The one thing I am interested in is Phosaphatic acid (or however its spelt) but its currently on back order with BB.co.uk

I did however pick myself up some Alphamine Fruit Punch ;). Just going to have 1 scoop a day when I wake up, just for the feel good really, and the energy carries me through the day!
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To be honest I feel this way sometimes too. Taking multiple anabolics doesn't really help you much if you don't know how they effect you individually which is why I tried Anabeta, X-Gels, and Follidrone mostly solo. I was thinking of taking DCP 2.0 or Recompadrol stacked with Follidrone too.....choices choices choices.
 
ma70 said:
To be honest I feel this way sometimes too. Taking multiple anabolics doesn't really help you much if you don't know how they effect you individually which is why I tried Anabeta, X-Gels, and Follidrone mostly solo. I was thinking of taking DCP 2.0 or Recompadrol stacked with Follidrone too.....choices choices choices.
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To be honest, I think diet/how hard you train is 90% of your results. People see all these results etc from anabolics and think its going to turn them into gods, but its the work the individual is doing behind it which is really producing the results. Follidrone no doubt is aiding me getting in better shape, but I'm putting in double the volume I normally would, and eating like a champ and thats where my gains are coming from. Obviously thats down to Follidrone, but if I took follidrone and didnt increase my volume / diet, I would imagine the results to be average.
 
Joshlm69 said:
To be honest, I think diet/how hard you train is 90% of your results. People see all these results etc from anabolics and think its going to turn them into gods, but its the work the individual is doing behind it which is really producing the results. Follidrone no doubt is aiding me getting in better shape, but I'm putting in double the volume I normally would, and eating like a champ and thats where my gains are coming from. Obviously thats down to Follidrone, but if I took follidrone and didnt increase my volume / diet, I would imagine the results to be average.
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Agreed. That's why my stacks these days are pretty small. I ran monster stacks and I don't think it's worth all the money. I'd rather stagger all of the anabolics.
 
ma70 said:
Agreed. That's why my stacks these days are pretty small. I ran monster stacks and I don't think it's worth all the money. I'd rather stagger all of the anabolics.
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Ultimately my goal is to be 188 with 12% body fat, so I dont exactly need to go too OTT on the supplements, just gotta train hard, eat and sleep well, and I should be there in a couple of years.

Would definitely like to be able to 2xBW bench and squat though, thats a goal of mine. My squat is terrible, and I hate doing them, so I want to eventually at least like training legs a little bit..haha
 
Joshlm69 said:
Ultimately my goal is to be 188 with 12% body fat, so I dont exactly need to go too OTT on the supplements, just gotta train hard, eat and sleep well, and I should be there in a couple of years.

Would definitely like to be able to 2xBW bench and squat though, thats a goal of mine. My squat is terrible, and I hate doing them, so I want to eventually at least like training legs a little bit..haha
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Same boat on training legs, absolutely hate it but I guess that is why I have chicken legs lol
 
wolfpack893 said:
Same boat on training legs, absolutely hate it but I guess that is why I have chicken legs lol
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my motivation for squatting is that if i slack my girlfriend will eventually outsquat me. Girl is doing 133 5 x 5, which is crazy good considering 2 months ago she could barely do 66 for 5
 
I don't want to hear any more nonsense about not wanting to work legs or there will be neg reps passed around!!

Lol, jk.
 
kisaj said:
I don't want to hear any more nonsense about not wanting to work legs or there will be neg reps passed around!! Lol, jk.
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You weren't born with chicken legs! You don't realise how uncomfortable squatting is haha, just feels horrible. Still do it though , so I can complain if I want! ;)
 
Joshlm69 said:
Not maximising full body gains if you aren't doing legs*
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True. I just said that because I train legs often and Follidrone seems to help me "breathe better" or something along those lines (I do legs on days even when I'm doing upper body stuff)
 
Joshlm69 said:
my motivation for squatting is that if i slack my girlfriend will eventually outsquat me. Girl is doing 133 5 x 5, which is crazy good considering 2 months ago she could barely do 66 for 5
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lol id hate that. squats are something you learn to love, just have to find your groove
 
wolfpack893 said:
don't mind doing like a couple heavy low rep sets of squat like in 5/3/1 but high rep squats are the worst lol
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I usually do 4-5 sets of 8-10 reps, its so horrible.

Its not that I hate legs, its that its uncomfortable to do. My flexibility in my hamstrings is god awful. I get nowhere near close to touching my toes when I try bend over.... flexibility is something I desperately need to spend time on, I just always either forget to do it or neglect it.

If anyone knows a website for decent lower back stretches / hamstring stretches I'd appreciate you linking and I'll work on it from tomorrow.

Arms today after work then playing tennis against a friend. Let me say that again....Tennis straight after arms day. Ball control level ZERO
 
Literally had the best news in the world last night. Girlfriend was trying to keep it a secret but knew I was sad and missing her so told me she was coming back from her holiday 3 days early, so shes back next friday! Sounds super gay but its made me very very happy, but realised I only have 8 days now to really change how I look for her so I can return the favour. So I took a scoop of alphamine, only one though, and try get a little fat burn in the next week so I can bring my abs out a bit more. Going to be hitting the cardio a little bit harder than normal to get some decent results.

Im quite fortunate in that I'm a hard gainer, so stripping fat isnt really that difficult for me

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Just ordered PES select Milk Chocolate, Snickerdoodle and Cookies and Cream, 1 of each. And some Fruit Punch alphamine. Predator Nutrition takes all my monies :(
 
Guna do the pull up challenge today as its arms day. 50 pullups in 3mins, LETS DO THIS.

Will film it and upload
 
wolfpack893 said:
dude your gonna love the snickerdoodle, picked up 3 of those tubs myself so delicious!
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Yeah boiiiii.

Also got 4lbs of CinnamonSwirl Tutein on the way too. Looks like my protein intake for the next 2months is going to be delicious.

GF loves making flapjacks etc with them, so will let her use most of the trutein for cooking, dont think I can part ways and let her use my PES though, "my precious", hahah
 
Realllly short arms session yesterday as I had tennis, so only could workout for 25mins. Still better than not doing it.

Pull up challenge (50 in 3minutes)

Think I managed 46. I made the mistake of doing 18 without pausing and It pretty much burnt my arms out for the rest of the duration. Think next thursday when I try it ill do 10 rest 10 rest 10 rest 5 rest etc etc, will make it much easier.

Close Grip Bench (4 seconds on way down, pause, back up)

143 x 10
143 x 8
143 x 8

Close Grip EZ bar (slow and controlled)

66 x 10
66 x 10

Wide Grip EZ bar (slow and controlled)

66 x 10
66 x 10

Dips, alternating Wide and close grip dips

0 x 10
0 x 10
0 x 10
0 x 10

Obviously didnt go heavy today as I had to play tennis straight after, arms felt so burnt out after the pullups though! Will definitely be trying that once a week :)
 
Body fat is literally running away from me, pretty damn happy. 1 week before gf gets back, gotta finish strong

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Chest Yesterday

Really short session again as I had work meal :(

Bench Press

Bar x 20
220 x 1
231 x 1

4 seconds on the way down, hold on chest, back up

150 x 8
150 x 7
150 x 6
150 x 6
110 x 10

Pull-Overs (big pb)

66 x 10
66 x 10
66 x 10

Cable Press

71 x 15
71 x 15

Cable Flys

52 x 13
52 x 10

Did deadlifts today. Pulled 12lbs more than last week so new PB which is awesome, but unforuntaltey twinged my back doing speed pulls at the end. Its pretty sore but hopefully not too too bad. Didn't continue with session though as I didnt want to risk hurting it further

132 x 10
220 x 5
265 x 5
310 x 1
310 x 1
320 x 1

Speed pulls

Sucks but hopefully if I rest it and have a hot bath and some Animal Flex, by Monday hopefully I can gym. At least this came in the mail today which brightened my spirits a little

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Guna stay in tonight (no alcohol as promised) and watch UFC Ireland Connor McGregor v Diego Brandao, should be a sick card!
 
Joshlm69 said:
Guna do the pull up challenge today as its arms day. 50 pullups in 3mins, LETS DO THIS.

Will film it and upload
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I did this today. The way I did it was 14, 12, 12 and 12. I finished just in time, but it did kick my ass.

Try it out this way next time.
 
Back is a little sore but not too sore, may be okay to squat today after gym, will definitely take it easy though!

As my girl is back on Friday (**** yeah), going to do

Legs Mon
Shoulders Tues
Chest Wed
Back Thurs
Wont be gyming on friday/sat/sunday this week for obvious reasons, haha. Yes, I know youre all like, never put a girl before the gym, well, I am so, deal with it :)
 
she gyms 5 times a week dude, haha.

And no, when youre away from your girl for a month, the only place you want to spend the weekend in your bedroom. the gym can wait.

Went to do legs yesterday but back was still pretty sore. Its actually okay this morning, feels it anyway, but only did some very light squats and cardio yesterday
 
PES select Snickerdoodle was really tasty, although I can imagine it will get quite sickly if drunk too many times.

Going to try PES cookies & cream tonight, apparently its the bomb.

Question, if I have to train shoulders and chest, in 2 days, what is the best order to train them? Shoulders then chest? or chest then shoulders? kisaj TheMovement ma70 brundel
 
Personally, I feel that either one is going to suffer a bit with that. I would actually prefer to work shoulders and chest in the same day because the next day I am going to be weaker than if I put them together. I would just alter it a bit and not really have a dedicated shoulder workout, but work in inclines with my flat press and then accessory work like raises.

If I did have to split them, then I would work chest and then shoulders. My shoulders need a good 2-3 days to recover and get back strength that would be required for a decent chest workout.
 
I have to do them both together or it suffers. I mean I pretty much use bench press and overhead press for my chest, which burns the crap out of my shoulders in the process. My split was that I'd do Overhead Press work 2-3 days after Bench Press work.
 
Cheers for the feedback boys.

I think ill do the following :

Overhead Press
Bench Press
Cable Press
Cable Flys
Arnie Press
Pullovers
Shrugs

Then Back tomorrow, then arms on Thursday, and rest Fri/Sat/Sun

Sound good?
 
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