Fixing my erectyle disfunction

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Alrighty,

I decided to create a thread where I will document how I am going about solving my ed.
Basically, i dont want to get too graphic but here it is.
Been blasting 500mg test for 12 weeks, last 5 weeks masteron enanthate 200mg per week (cant do more it gives me panic attacks). Had my last injection on thursday, 2 days ago. So i am still at peak test levels. Dropping down to trt dose right now.
My libido is low but i can kinda get it going.
I havent had morning wood for over a week and dont get randoms during the day at all. And i also added 50mg of proviron lately.
This morning while i tried to have sex the damn thing first wouldnt get hard at all. I admit it, was a bit nervous but quickly i gained confidence and calmed down. Eventually, after good 15 minutes, the damn thing got semi hard (long, but still limp) for about 10 seconds and instead of a usual pow pow hahahah i dont know how to describe it better it just dripped like a leaky faucet. And I took 25mg of proviron and 10mg of cialis 4 hours earlier!
I was pissed!

So does anyone have any idea what could it be? I am going to try tomorrow again, with another 10mg of cialis and 50mg of proviron. I am also going to get e2 and prolactin labs done on monday.
Who knows. I might be one of the guys who needs caber on test only.
ps: Immediately after the drama was over, I wanted to go again. So libido is kinda there. But the damn limp leaky faucet is dead. Completely.

Oh and dont think that i am bitching, this is just the way to document how I will go about solving the problem. I play with steroids, and if you're playing, you're paying of course.
 
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So this is the issue. Experiencing hormonal induced ED is going to naturally cause anxiety/stress induced ED. That's the sucky part. The best way to recover from that is to honestly put your libido on a shelf somewhere. Meaning, literally just forget about having an erection. Could take a couple weeks. A few weeks. The mind is powerful. An offputting thought in my head even causes me to lose an erection, and I am hormonally fine, and researching cialis low dose daily.
 

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So this is the issue. Experiencing hormonal induced ED is going to naturally cause anxiety/stress induced ED. That's the sucky part. The best way to recover from that is to honestly put your libido on a shelf somewhere. Meaning, literally just forget about having an erection. Could take a couple weeks. A few weeks. The mind is powerful. An offputting thought in my head even causes me to lose an erection, and I am hormonally fine, and researching cialis low dose daily.
But how the hell didnt cialis help? And why was it dripping like that? I am 100% positive its not in my head and that it is caused by either prolactin or something else.
I wasnt really anxious or nervous, as soon as i laid down with a girl all the tension went away but it was still limp.

We will see what the labs have to say. Meanwhile, i am giving cialis and proviron another shot.
 
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But how the hell didnt cialis help? And why was it dripping like that? I am 100% positive its not in my head and that it is caused by either prolactin or something else.
I wasnt really anxious or nervous, as soon as i laid down with a girl all the tension went away but it was still limp.

We will see what the labs have to say. Meanwhile, i am giving cialis and proviron another shot.
Well, maybe your case is due to prolactin. But, I take 5 to 7.5mg cialis a day, and if I get into conversation with my wife, not even having a negative thought, I can go limp, even on cialis.
 

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Well, maybe your case is due to prolactin. But, I take 5 to 7.5mg cialis a day, and if I get into conversation with my wife, not even having a negative thought, I can go limp, even on cialis.
Usually guys who have anxiety induced ed dont have problems while masturbating etc and only the problem presents itself when they are with a woman. My stuff is dead as a noodle no matter the circumstances.
 
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When is your labs?
 

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I will do them on monday morning. And post them here of course.
 
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Interested in your findings.
 
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Your estrogen is probably high, I’d take 25mg of exem for 3 days then do it eod at 12.5 mg for a week and see. I was having the same issue post cycle and I did that. BAM. First day after the 25 mg doses I had MW again. I was running Ralox too, a bit of clomid would help as well
 

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Interested in your findings.
Also, i dont know if this means anything to you, but i have 0 sensitivity. Hands, tits...nothing

@ChocolateClen i actually crashed my e about 14 days ago. I am pretty vascular fot the bodyfat i am at currently so i dont hold any water. Also, i dont have a moonface. And right now, my libido is actally good.
 

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In for info as always.
I’ve been having a slightly similar issue and I’ve had it before but it was more so keeping an erection after awhile. Or right before I get off I’d go soft which sucks ass. I found that raising my AI helped that out. Lately I’d been having somewhat of an issue with it but I’ve also been getting night sweats so bad that I wake up and my blankets are wet, bloating around my waist, emotional issues like I’ve been reading or typing something out and start to tear up, and that all screams high E to me.
The leaking part actually sounds like a prostate issue to me which may be from the mast.
 
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Test don’t guess..
 

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The best way to recover from that is to honestly put your libido on a shelf somewhere.
That is not going to be easy as my libido is actually good right now and it seems to be getting stronger hahahaha.
 

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Gentlemen,
Results are in. And its bad.

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I am embarassed to post this as I have clearly failed to manage my e2. Probably because I was taking masteron and proviron I didnt feel high e2 sides because of the dht antagonizing action. I am vascular , as high as i can be at 12-14% bodyfat.
I have already started 25 mg of aromasin ed. And I basically have 2 questions.

1. For how long would you continue dosing aromasin at 25mg per day considering e2 this high? Or should I just go until my libido and wood return and then proceed with 12.5mg eod (or something like that). This is all considering my last injection was on thursday and from now on i am on 125mg per week (although my levels will still be high for 2 or so weeks i believe).

2. My prolactin is high. Would something like Prolactrone be sufficient or do I need cabergoline? It is definitely possible that high e2 drove prolactin up, but i am sure it (prolactin) was high before because i had libido issues even with e2 @24 pg/ml.

Advice is appreciated.
 
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The exem or aromasin should bottom out prolactin as well. I could be wrong though. I’d do 12.5 mg Ed till MW then 12.5mg e3d for 2 weeks
 

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is it possible that high e2 and prolactin are making me feel sick? Friends are telling me my face is puffed up under the eyes (just the face, i dont hold water elsewhere) and i have really bad bags under my eyes, as if i havent slept for days. And i feel generally weak and sick.
 
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At those prolactin levels, I would not recommend any over the counter herbs. I don't think that would be sufficient.

Very high prolactin and estrogen can make you feel sick. A nursing mother has high prolactin, and they typically do not feel great while in the nursing phase.
 

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At those prolactin levels, I would not recommend any over the counter herbs. I don't think that would be sufficient.

Very high prolactin and estrogen can make you feel sick. A nursing mother has high prolactin, and they typically do not feel great while in the nursing phase.
Caber it is then.
 

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Took some test and Deca yesterday with .25mg adex because some of the test was prop, took .75mg today. Last night I was super sensitive in bed, today after my adex me and the old lady went at it a couple hours later and I couldn’t hardly feel anything, to the point I started going soft before finishing. These drugs are crazy and super annoying sometimes. Yesterday I was crazy emotional but hard as a rock and today I’m better emotionally but can’t feel anything from the waist down. It blows.
 

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Take a very very low dose, up to twice a week. It is extremely potent. Fast working. Abused it will mess you up, and you heart valves.
I know man but do i have a choice? Prolactin is almost 100 points over reference.
Will try 0.25mg per week (half a tab).

@Brain5ick so low e2 causes lack of sensitivity for you then? Interestingly enough, i had some good mw (still not rock hard as when i was 16, but still a nice surprise after weeks of not having any)today after just one dose of 25mg aromasin. But libido is still shot. I have read that prolactin is extremely suppressive on a man's libido, and mine is way above reference.

And when it comes to being emotional, yes i am more emotional right now with e2 this high, but not any more emotional than when i was natty. So its not all about e2 levels, it seems that (t/dht):e2 ratios is what matters more. My test is still probably above 2000. And when i was on proviron, i wasnt emorional at all.
 
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I’ve been on the fence about using strong aas it’s story like this that scary me away - I hope everything works out for you
 

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I’ve been on the fence about using strong aas it’s story like this that scary me away - I hope everything works out for you
Well, it is always a better choice not to touch any aas (unless prescribed by a medical doctor to treat a certain medical condition). You are going to live longer and healthier life if you choose not to use.

And i dont personally think these kind of stories are what should be keeping you away from abusing aas. Yeah, its embarassing and makes you pissed. But its nothing compared to cardiovascular side effects which may/will (probably will) present themselves over time.

That being said, its my fault that my e2 got so high and prolactin, well, i am just one of those folks who needs to manage prolactin on test.
 

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Man i am waking up drenched in sweat again, and having mild panic attacks. It seems to happen every time i lower my e2. Wood is back but libido is still down in the dumps, caber is on the way.
 

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Man i am waking up drenched in sweat again, and having mild panic attacks. It seems to happen every time i lower my e2. Wood is back but libido is still down in the dumps, caber is on the way.
Damn man I know the feeling. Good luck and god speed brother.
 

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It seems that us who had naturally very low test react more adversely to supraphysiological doses of testosterone. Our body wasnt meant to be operating at high normalevels, let alone supraphysiological.
That could also explain rapid increase in my hematocrit.

Just for fun i got me an oxymeter, the one you put on your finger. My spo2 during the day is 96-97% and upon waking it is 97-98%, so that rules out sleep apnea i hope. What worries me, however, is when i lay and relax in bed i feel the need to yawn and then my spo2 is 93% ! That is not good.
 

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It seems that us who had naturally very low test react more adversely to supraphysiological doses of testosterone. Our body wasnt meant to be operating at high normalevels, let alone supraphysiological.
That could also explain rapid increase in my hematocrit.

Just for fun i got me an oxymeter, the one you put on your finger. My spo2 during the day is 96-97% and upon waking it is 97-98%, so that rules out sleep apnea i hope. What worries me, however, is when i lay and relax in bed i feel the need to yawn and then my spo2 is 93% ! That is not good.
I had that same theory. I believe we just react a little more intensely to them than others do. I think your o2 is ok but I’m no doctor.
 

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Lately i have been reading about side effects of tren and if it wasnt for you experiencing similar sides from test, i would be inclined to believe that my masteron was laced with tren. But the lack of dramatic gains and the color of the powder make that impossible.
 

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Lately i have been reading about side effects of tren and if it wasnt for you experiencing similar sides from test, i would be inclined to believe that my masteron was laced with tren. But the lack of dramatic gains and the color of the powder make that impossible.
Were you bulking or cutting?
 

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Were you taking any AI on cycle???
Of course i did, 25 mg of aromasin 2x per week. However, i obviously let my e2 go haywire at the end, as you can see from the bloodwork posted above.

I was bulking. Gained about 22 lbs (10kg).
 

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I just turned 50 and was taken OTC test boosters and ed supplements. I had anxiety ED when I met my current wife, she was really pretty and never experienced it before. But after 5 or 6 years of taking it. I just quit and have wood with no assistance. Although I don’t last as long as I did with the supplements. Here’s my new wife with my son.
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Alrighty,

I decided to create a thread where I will document how I am going about solving my ed.
Basically, i dont want to get too graphic but here it is.
Been blasting 500mg test for 12 weeks, last 5 weeks masteron enanthate 200mg per week (cant do more it gives me panic attacks). Had my last injection on thursday, 2 days ago. So i am still at peak test levels. Dropping down to trt dose right now.
My libido is low but i can kinda get it going.
I havent had morning wood for over a week and dont get randoms during the day at all. And i also added 50mg of proviron lately.
This morning while i tried to have sex the damn thing first wouldnt get hard at all. I admit it, was a bit nervous but quickly i gained confidence and calmed down. Eventually, after good 15 minutes, the damn thing got semi hard (long, but still limp) for about 10 seconds and instead of a usual pow pow hahahah i dont know how to describe it better it just dripped like a leaky faucet. And I took 25mg of proviron and 10mg of cialis 4 hours earlier!
I was pissed!

So does anyone have any idea what could it be? I am going to try tomorrow again, with another 10mg of cialis and 50mg of proviron. I am also going to get e2 and prolactin labs done on monday.
Who knows. I might be one of the guys who needs caber on test only.
ps: Immediately after the drama was over, I wanted to go again. So libido is kinda there. But the damn limp leaky faucet is dead. Completely.

Oh and dont think that i am bitching, this is just the way to document how I will go about solving the problem. I play with steroids, and if you're playing, you're paying of course.
I don't see anything with supplements so I would highly recommend zinc as well as boron. Boron can work absolute wonders especially on trt. It will make the most of everything you're taking and make it more available. Also some magnesium may help. All three of those should help with shbg and Cialis and proviron make me **** like a pornstar so I really don't know what else to tell you other than possibly talk to doctor Thomas O'Connor and best of luck brother. We've all been there and I feel for you so I hope things start to get better.


Edit - I would also cut out the masteron for a while to see if the anxiety and masteron are related because it sounded like they were and anything that's going to give you anxiety is going to **** with your manhood.

Edit #2- p.s.- your wife is gorgeous btw. Congrats.
 
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I don't see anything with supplements so I would highly recommend zinc as well as boron. Boron can work absolute wonders especially on trt. It will make the most of everything you're taking and make it more available. Also some magnesium may help. All three of those should help with shbg and Cialis and proviron make me **** like a pornstar so I really don't know what else to tell you other than possibly talk to doctor Thomas O'Connor and best of luck brother. We've all been there and I feel for you so I hope things start to get better.


Edit - I would also cut out the masteron for a while to see if the anxiety and masteron are related because it sounded like they were and anything that's going to give you anxiety is going to **** with your manhood.
Masteron is gone, am on 125m test e per week.
As you can see, my e2 and prolactin were extremely high. I sorted out e2 but i still need to bring prolactin down.
 
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Masteron is gone, am on 125m test e per week.
As you can see, my e2 and prolactin were extremely high. I sorted out e2 but i still need to bring prolactin down.
Vit e @ 300iu per day will lower prolactin by 69%
Vit b6/ pyridoxine @ 300mg will also lower prolactin by 70%

You can buy both if those cheap as hell or i make a supp called prolactout that have those two and a few other things that are all known to lower prolactin. Why uts o high us beyond me no tren/deca but who knows. Or just grab some prami and kill it like crazy. But i think e & b6 will do just fine. Sorry i missed the labs etc. Was late and just read the title and intro post.
 

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Vit e @ 300iu per day will lower prolactin by 69%
Vit b6/ pyridoxine @ 300mg will also lower prolactin by 70%

You can buy both if those cheap as hell or i make a supp called prolactout that have those two and a few other things that are all known to lower prolactin. Why uts o high us beyond me no tren/deca but who knows. Or just grab some prami and kill it like crazy. But i think e & b6 will do just fine. Sorry i missed the labs etc. Was late and just read the title and intro post.
I got caber on the way. It is probably high because i let my e2 go rampant. But then again, i heard from multiple people that test raises prolactin.
 
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Shbg rises as result of cell danger response due to cellular inflammation. It’s a natural protective mechanism. I have reduced several shbg by identify and addressing the problem. One case was mold other, another one mycoplasma, others have been dysbiosis or glyphosate /enviromental toxins etc. it’s what I have been saying for past decade going back to the basics. Trying to force it down using drugs is only going to mask the problem..
 
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Shbg rises as result of cell danger response due to cellular inflammation. It’s a natural protective mechanism. I have reduced several shbg by identify and addressing the problem. One case was mold other, another one mycoplasma, others have been dysbiosis or glyphosate /enviromental toxins etc. it’s what I have been saying for past decade going back to the basics
So systemic inflammation can cause low testosterone through high shbg?
 
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So systemic inflammation can cause low testosterone through high shbg?
Absolutely, we see it all the time clinically. This is why when guys start talking thyroid and TRT , they get a rude awakening. Each case is unique, but age and case history are determining factors. Testosterone is not a primary mechanism for survival. It’s a luxury 😂
 

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Morning wood has been back for the past few days. Like 80% hard.
Libido is still low though. Things are starting too look up a bit.
 
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Also, i dont know if this means anything to you, but i have 0 sensitivity. Hands, tits...nothing

@ChocolateClen i actually crashed my e about 14 days ago. I am pretty vascular fot the bodyfat i am at currently so i dont hold any water. Also, i dont have a moonface. And right now, my libido is actally good.
If you crashed your E, that’s probably the issue. I would stop running any AI if you are running one and also drop the Masteron. The Mast is probably what killed your estrogen.

With higher E, my sex drive drops but I can still get it up. With low E my sex drive drops but my dick also stops working and goes limp during.

I highly doubt it’s prolactin. Typically if your estrogen is in control, your prolactin will be too. Low E from the Mast (even less E after you added the Proviron) would also explain the anxiety.
 
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If you crashed your E, that’s probably the issue. I would stop running any AI if you are running one and also drop the Masteron. The Mast is probably what killed your estrogen.

With higher E, my sex drive drops but I can still get it up. With low E my sex drive drops but my dick also stops working and goes limp during.

I highly doubt it’s prolactin. Typically if your estrogen is in control, your prolactin will be too. Low E from the Mast (even less E after you added the Proviron) would also explain the anxiety.
I know when I crashed my E I felt like **** for a few days but it almost immediately helped me at least get in the mood. Took a few days for my E to get up a little bit but I had it under control and I had MW 2 days after I crashed mine with an AI and controlled it with clomid and Ralox.
 

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If you crashed your E, that’s probably the issue. I would stop running any AI if you are running one and also drop the Masteron. The Mast is probably what killed your estrogen.

With higher E, my sex drive drops but I can still get it up. With low E my sex drive drops but my dick also stops working and goes limp during.

I highly doubt it’s prolactin. Typically if your estrogen is in control, your prolactin will be too. Low E from the Mast (even less E after you added the Proviron) would also explain the anxiety.
This bloodwork was done the day after I failed to achieve an erection and had a leaky faucet.
 

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I just wanted to add few closing words to this thread, thinking that someone may come over this thread in the future searching for answers.

I may very well be asexual. This is the most likely answer to my libido "issues". Just because i want to experience sex from time to time doesnt necessarily mean i desire it. It is merely a matter of curiosity.

For some time now test has been @ 1500 ng/dl and e2 is perfect, measured at 17, 24 and 27 pg/ml on few different occassions. I have 0 libido, zero desire. I mean, i do appreciate the moment when I see an attractive woman, but i do not have any desire to partake in any kind of sexual activity with her. It has been this way most of my adult life (except for the first 2 weeks on 500mg test when i was unbelievably horny but that was probably a fluke).

Just wanted to clear some things up for future references.
 
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Cro, a lot of these guys have given you great advice and Matrix is right about SHBG. Nettle Root can fix that problem better than AIs IME. Estrogen antagonists, AIs and anti-estrogens only fix the problem by eventually lowing high E2 levels (thus lowering SHBG) but believe it or not I suspect it's low E more often than high E that's the problem. Also, high-dose Resveratrol sometimes helps libido in a punctuated fashion.

Matrix also mentioned infectious ideologies, and latent-type intracellular pathogens can be notorious for causing abnormal globulin ratios from various cytokine disturbances and auto-immune like responses. You might consider getting a more in-depth blood differential to rule that out. Nettle Root works but will only mask the low libido, it probably won't clear a mycoplasma.
 
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Elevated shbg is a symptoms of the insults from the enviroment, lifestyle, pathogens causing gene expression, inflammation to the gut or liver. After researching this more then any one else for more then a decade, these have been the clinical conclusion validated by not only therapeutic. Had a case of NADFL, where insulin resistance was causing stress to the liver resulting in the elevated shbg. It was not the diet that was the problem, but pathogenic over growth and altered diversity of the gut biome. Once the gut microbiome was restored shbg was literally dropped by from 55 down to 24 where it should be. 15 years ago the average shbg of a male was 20-25 now we are seeing 35 and higher as the new normal. This is just one example of how shbg is a symptoms of deeper cause. Another issue we see commonly in elevated shbg is altered phase 1,2,3 of the liver. Often time the liver phase one is fast with 2 and 3 being very slowly. It’s kind of like shitttting into a clogged toilet you can not flush fast enough. This results in estrogens not being detoxified which are recirculating back around attatching to estrogen receptors only push unidentited higher not being caught in the blood. Have you ever wondered why guys have e2 issues with normal levels? It’s from estrogens being not metabolized by the liver pushing shbg higher. There are 2 examples I have been mentioning for several years on this and other forums for over a decade. The number of elevated and Lowe bilirubin is alarming being missed by traditional medicine. This is a sign your liver is in trouble not being seen on other markers I am also seeing higher levels of SHBG and sleep apnea or sub clinical sleep apnea. If you are snoring then you’re definitely a mouth breather which can cause problems with your G.I. and oral mucosa and micro biome adding fuel to the hidden inflammation
 
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Cro, a lot of these guys have given you great advice and Matrix is right about SHBG. Nettle Root can fix that problem better than AIs IME. Estrogen antagonists, AIs and anti-estrogens only fix the problem by eventually lowing high E2 levels (thus lowering SHBG) but believe it or not I suspect it's low E more often than high E that's the problem. Also, high-dose Resveratrol sometimes helps libido in a punctuated fashion.

Matrix also mentioned infectious ideologies, and latent-type intracellular pathogens can be notorious for causing abnormal globulin ratios from various cytokine disturbances and auto-immune like responses. You might consider getting a more in-depth blood differential to rule that out. Nettle Root works but will only mask the low libido, it probably won't clear a mycoplasma.
I think I am dialed in right now as far as e2 is concerned. Energy is good and aggression during workouts is back. Also, except for some panic attacks i have (i am prone to them) i feel good.
So i am pretty happy with the situation.

As i said, i never really had good libido before steroids. Would get morning wood like once in a month after 16 years old (used to get it regularly when i was like 15). Only those first 2-3 weeks of test blast were crazy
 
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I have heard this scenario over and over again by males. Come back in 5 to 10 years and seen by not addressing the underlying pathology where one’s health may be and how it could’ve been easily prevented if the proper steps were taken earlier on
 
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Shbg rises as result of cell danger response due to cellular inflammation. It’s a natural protective mechanism. I have reduced several shbg by identify and addressing the problem. One case was mold other, another one mycoplasma, others have been dysbiosis or glyphosate /enviromental toxins etc. it’s what I have been saying for past decade going back to the basics. Trying to force it down using drugs is only going to mask the problem..
I've never even thought that mold or fungi could lower my T. I've had what i think are low T symptoms since moving to a property with a small black mold issue, which i keep on top of, do you think that could be an affecting?
 

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