superbeast668
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Tren deca and trestolone smash the hpta. Trest is in research as a male contraceptive.
Fit for February 14th... Or Dead Lift in a DRESS!!!
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Tren deca and trestolone smash the hpta. Trest is in research as a male contraceptive.
superbeast668
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As promised.. Don't play with a "sealed" tube of superglue while trolling AM.
As promised.. Don't play with a "sealed" tube of superglue while trolling AM.
bean5er
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Lmao
wasme
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lol ... no but all we have it chocolate, chocolate chip, and berry.
superbeast668
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I knew I didn't like canada... No strawberry or cinnamon? That's blasphemous!
wasme
Legend
Strawberry might be the berry. I think there are two berries. No cinnamon, no sundae, no fn peanut butter /chocolate which is my fav.
And don't say you don't like Canada. Say something like, Simon what's your address and I'll send you some !!! lol
wasme
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You could be right, was a long time ago. I did the same, gotta have my Stern in the mornings.
superbeast668
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Let me get caught up from holidays and I'll see what I can do.
It's not all of canada. Just Vaughan. Hated it there. The company I worked for was based out of there and they treated employees like dog sh!t
Lmao stern was def 95.1. I remember listening to him going to school about a million yrs ago.
wasme
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Was just kidding around...
Ya that would make me dislike Vaughan too. That and getting to it up the 400 always sucks a$$.
superbeast668
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Yes. It took me 13 hours this time last year to get home after a light dusting of snow. 401 and qew were gridlocked. It's how I found out about 907. That's nice and quick.
MrKleen73
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Dan, Kleen is right, pop tarts will work as well BUT if you're like me, I cannot limit myself on **** like that. That's why I leave that **** for cheat meals or free meals. That's just me though I should've clarified
Cheat / Free meals don't justify gorging either guys... I have ket a box of them for 2 months before when they didn't fit my macros at the time. I used to do things that made self control with food damn near impossible but when clear headed not so much.
Sucks about the over cooking, great on the macros.
Increase fats and cholesterol intake and lower carbs a bit to adjust. Body needs cholesterol to make testosterone. Add 5000 IU vitamin D to your diet and see if that helps. Think about adding ZMA to your supplements taking it all at night.
Thank you Kix
Okay another solid fukcing day. I feel like I did during the first half of my prep, focused, determined and ON POINT!
Back and calves this day
One arm bb row
4 work sets of 10/10/10/9
Smith BB row rest pause
4x6 elbows out
Close grip pull downs
2 big drop sets
Meadows style DB pullovers
3x10
DB Shrugs 3 sec contraction
3x12 these are brutal if weight is heavy enough
Did some stretching in there twice haha
Seated calves
6x10+10partials
Didn't end up doing HIIT which brings me to my question. This is why I do t do well doing my own diet, I continually second guess myself.
I've dropped 1 lb every day this week which is kinda freaking me out. 1-2 lbs a week is ok but three lbs in 3.5 days ????? Macros were 305/102/105 for 2575ish cals. A lite lower than normal.
My question for anyone really but I'll call on Kleen specifically, Im on day 8 I believe of this 100g carbs high fat does this sudden weight drop concern anyone? Should I do a 200-300g clean refeed or wait it out another 4 days or so?
My strength is actually slightly increasing. I feel and look a tad tighter but I don't want to lose too fast.
I'm open to your suggestions opinions. With where I'm at a slow steady cut /recomp should be enough to get me close to my goals but I'd rather deadlift in Zumba wear then look flat but lean. Haha
I wouldn't sweat it, you are rocking it and have lowered your carb intake by almost half. Between that and being spot on with your water intake you could easily flush that much in water on lower carbs.
Yeah and if you didn't get pharma grade SERMS you may have simply gotten research grade alcohol or fillers.
MrKleen73
Legend
This morning was a leg day.
Body Up Lying Leg Curls - 50x20, 70x15, 85x12, 100x10, 115x8>85x25 partials
Below Parallel Squats - 225x12, 245x10, 275x8, 315x6 - Knees went in a bit on last 2 at 315 could tell my conditioning was a little off from not squatting all the time.
Leg Press with 3 second Negatives no lock out for constant tension - 640x8, 810x8, 810x8, 810x8 - these were pretty hard by the end with the three second count!!!
Calves on Donkey Calve Raise Sled 2-2-2-2 tempo - 250x15, 270x12 - Nice burn and pump from the slow reps with pauses and stretches.
All in all a pretty good workout, rest was pretty much as quickly as my wife could finish her set and us change the weights.
Diet yesterday ended up being very low carb, I could not really count the calories in the end of the day as we were at a company party. So I opeted to keep carbs at a minimum. I was way under 100grams of carbs probably closer to 50 grams if that. I had a few doubles of Jack Black on the rocks with a splash of diet coke to kill the bitter. Open bar but no Crown. Not sure what they were thinking... Anyway I was dragging ass this morning but decided I drank so I needed to get my ass up and do the damn thing like I hadn't. Thank goodness for Pre Workouts!
For dinner last nigh was some roast beef, and ham at the party then the wife showed up but it was an employee only party so I left and went downstairs to eat with her. I had missed a meal so I had room calorie wise. Had Seared Snapper with avacado pico de gayo and some fresh veggies. It was DELICIOUS!!!!
Body Up Lying Leg Curls - 50x20, 70x15, 85x12, 100x10, 115x8>85x25 partials
Below Parallel Squats - 225x12, 245x10, 275x8, 315x6 - Knees went in a bit on last 2 at 315 could tell my conditioning was a little off from not squatting all the time.
Leg Press with 3 second Negatives no lock out for constant tension - 640x8, 810x8, 810x8, 810x8 - these were pretty hard by the end with the three second count!!!
Calves on Donkey Calve Raise Sled 2-2-2-2 tempo - 250x15, 270x12 - Nice burn and pump from the slow reps with pauses and stretches.
All in all a pretty good workout, rest was pretty much as quickly as my wife could finish her set and us change the weights.
Diet yesterday ended up being very low carb, I could not really count the calories in the end of the day as we were at a company party. So I opeted to keep carbs at a minimum. I was way under 100grams of carbs probably closer to 50 grams if that. I had a few doubles of Jack Black on the rocks with a splash of diet coke to kill the bitter. Open bar but no Crown. Not sure what they were thinking... Anyway I was dragging ass this morning but decided I drank so I needed to get my ass up and do the damn thing like I hadn't. Thank goodness for Pre Workouts!
For dinner last nigh was some roast beef, and ham at the party then the wife showed up but it was an employee only party so I left and went downstairs to eat with her. I had missed a meal so I had room calorie wise. Had Seared Snapper with avacado pico de gayo and some fresh veggies. It was DELICIOUS!!!!
Lukef2000
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My fats are currently sitting around 80g, do you think I should bump them up to say 100? Ill throw VitD and some Zma and see if that helps.
I had pharma grade serms, I always make a point of spending a bit more on post cycle supports.
superbeast668
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why dont you look into going keto on the diet, or maybe just "paleo". they both call for tons of fat. you wont be smashing carbs so it'll keep you lean as well as hopefully help your testosterone production.
MrKleen73
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Yeah 100-120 would be good.
Good stuff here.
Speaking of good stuff.
Microwave Crustless Quiche I came up with on the fly this morning.
2 cans tuna, 2 whole eggs, 3/8 cup 2% shredded cheese, cajun seasoning, drain tuna and put it all in a blender & blend quickly then poor / scoop into microwave safe bowl cook uncovered for 2-3 minutes then cover and cook for 2-3 minutes. Let cool and eat with hot sauce on top.
It did not need the hot sauce to be honest but I love hot sauce!!!
This was great and the macros were sexy too.
444 calories 3g carbs 20g fats 63g protein
superbeast668
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Omg that recipe is delicious. I wanna try with chicken and maybe toss a pepper or onion in
superbeast668
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Smashed back.
1arm bb rows. 4x8
Wide grip partial pulldowns
5x8
Wide grip low cable row
4x10
Db pullover 3x12
Hypers 3 sets till fail.
I did a few extras. I was definitely getting into it today. 90 sec rests on bb rows everything else was 45. Did 20 mins on the fatmill.
2406 cals 75f 150c 284 pro. Missed on macros. Stomach ache and severe bloat all day. Tons of gas. Food hasn't been my friend but I'm trying damnit! Final meal- 1c egg whites, 6oz sirloin and 1scoop myofusion probiotic in almond breeze. Ran out of salad otherwise is eat that too.
1arm bb rows. 4x8
Wide grip partial pulldowns
5x8
Wide grip low cable row
4x10
Db pullover 3x12
Hypers 3 sets till fail.
I did a few extras. I was definitely getting into it today. 90 sec rests on bb rows everything else was 45. Did 20 mins on the fatmill.
2406 cals 75f 150c 284 pro. Missed on macros. Stomach ache and severe bloat all day. Tons of gas. Food hasn't been my friend but I'm trying damnit! Final meal- 1c egg whites, 6oz sirloin and 1scoop myofusion probiotic in almond breeze. Ran out of salad otherwise is eat that too.
Lukef2000
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I might look into a paleo type diet, I don't think I could do keto tho, tried it in the past and I wanted to seriously hurt people lol.
Ok ill drop carbs and bump fats!
That recipe looks amazing kleen, might have to give it a go!
Danb2285
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Having a hard time hitting macros today. Sitting at 1840 cals right now with one meal left. Right now I'm at 180p/133c/70f and I have one meal left for tonight. And in just had to force feed my last meal. Just not hungry today. Trying to think of something I can eat after work that's calorie dense with little carbs and fats...I'm thinking a grilled chicken salad but Thats not gonna get me anywhere close to my numbers. Any ideas??
Montego1
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99/1 ground Turkey
Danb2285
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bean5er
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Weird off day today super busy super stressful. Messed up on macros somehow not really sure.
325p
120c ??
125f
I was just throwing stuff in my six pack bag today and threw in and extra half cup of rice which I ate without eating thinking. Oh well no biggie I guess. Tomorrow's a new day and I'll be doing a leg press squat superset along with light chest work.
325p
120c ??
125f
I was just throwing stuff in my six pack bag today and threw in and extra half cup of rice which I ate without eating thinking. Oh well no biggie I guess. Tomorrow's a new day and I'll be doing a leg press squat superset along with light chest work.
Montego1
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Danb2285
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Lagging? Not so much bud. Wheels are looking jacked and lean.
Montego1
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Dats what I was thinking
bean5er
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I got some leg pics today too........but I'm hiding
Hiding schmiding! Let's see em
Why thank you I've been killing them but in relation to my upper body they are small. My goal is three trunks lol
bean5er
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Sooooo today is all fukcered up! The wife and I were up with my son literally every 45 mins last night. He has a horrid cough and when my alarm went off at 330 he was asleep so I hit snooze. I know I know man up well sleep is as important so I'll do one of two things. Try and get in tonight and continue as scheduled tomorrow or push everything back a day and take Monday off then resume.
Woke up late and just put a bunch of food together slammed a shake so we will see how the diet shakes out.
Woke up late and just put a bunch of food together slammed a shake so we will see how the diet shakes out.
superbeast668
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Beans your legs are legit. Hope your kid feels better man. Load up on glutamine that way if you catch it you'll fight it off quick
iparatroop
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Well, you've got two already. You're gonna have to mess with genetics or something to grow the other. Sorry man.
iparatroop
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20131213 (Friday the 13th)
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Cube W2D3 rep squats
Comp stance
220x3x8
Front squats
175x2x8
Heavy barbell walks (not sure if this is Lilly's intent, but I don't care).
355x8 trips
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Box step-ups
245x3xVarying reps (8 per leg at least)
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Didn't do pause squats or pull-ups. My right brachialis is, at least strained. Giving it a break for a bit on the pull-ups.
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Cube W2D3 rep squats
Comp stance
220x3x8
Front squats
175x2x8
Heavy barbell walks (not sure if this is Lilly's intent, but I don't care).
355x8 trips
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Box step-ups
245x3xVarying reps (8 per leg at least)
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Didn't do pause squats or pull-ups. My right brachialis is, at least strained. Giving it a break for a bit on the pull-ups.
Danb2285
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Chest day today. Was in and out including cardio in less than 45 mins. Which is ok since I was in a hurry but still feel like I left stuff out today. Subbed incline press for incline cable fly's because my shoulders and elbows have been bothering me a little bit the last two days. Probably has something to do with it being -4 here yesterday morning. Its pretty much been cold as fuk for like a week now.
Db twist press -45 sec rest
50-10
60-10
60-10
60-8
Cable incline fly slow negative- 30 sec rest
15-12
15-11
15-8
HS Chest press 3 second hold and squeeze 3 second negative- weight does not include machine weight-45 sec rest
180-8
180-8
200-6
Ab work- wheel of death 2 sets
Hanging leg raises/swings 4 sets
Cardio-10 mins HIIT treadmill sprints
Not sure how macros are going to end up today. Ive decided to start throwing grapefruits back into breakfast so carbs will be a little bit higher from here on out.
Db twist press -45 sec rest
50-10
60-10
60-10
60-8
Cable incline fly slow negative- 30 sec rest
15-12
15-11
15-8
HS Chest press 3 second hold and squeeze 3 second negative- weight does not include machine weight-45 sec rest
180-8
180-8
200-6
Ab work- wheel of death 2 sets
Hanging leg raises/swings 4 sets
Cardio-10 mins HIIT treadmill sprints
Not sure how macros are going to end up today. Ive decided to start throwing grapefruits back into breakfast so carbs will be a little bit higher from here on out.
bean5er
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Thanks brother will do
Lol good catch damn phone or maybe my fat fingers
Very good session
HokiePride
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....The wife is fukcing 8.5 weeks pregnant!!!!' Finally. Three and a half years of trying two different fertity treatments and boom first round of IVF and it worked
Congrats!
bean5er
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Thank you bud!!
MrKleen73
Legend
Yes that would have been perfect, and while making it better a tiny bit of dill!
Keto makes everyone unhappy the first 3 weeks. That is why you really don't want to do any refeeds your first 3 weeks or it can prolong the bodies shift to predominantly burning fats for energy.
Well no wonder they are lagging, that is a lot of leg meat to drag around. Size has definitely come up considering that is not even a flattering angle. Plus as lean as they are in relation to the rest of you they won't shrink up as much as the rest of your body when you cut.
Well you have 2 and the 3rd well if you don't already big enough there you are pretty much stuck...
Sounds like you spent all night manning up taking care of the lil one. No need to exhaust yourself when there is an obviously a heightened chance of getting ill right now due to exposure.
Precisely this ^^^^^
LMAO that we both picked up on that. Great Minds!
Take care of that brachialis! Nice work on those step ups and the heavy barbell walks.
Not a problem grapefruits are excellent for fat burning.
I too stayed in bed this morning. I was exhausted all day yesterday after my leg workout from having the drinks and late night the night before. Plus just starting to get up daily at 3:45 again. So when the alar went off I just hod nothing. I could have forced it but it would not have been a good idea as I can tell I was running myself down.
I didn't get enough carbs in for my evening carbs last night, but protein and fats were a bit higher and the macros well they evened out for just a little under my total calories goal.
Totals 2,414 cals 146g carbs, 73g fats, 304g protein, 15g fiber
Looking at my current condition I may end up having to switch to keto in a couple weeks if everything doesn't start kicking in quickly. We shall see. I will be starting a SARM soon then may add in a bit of DS but probably going to save the real DS stuff for the last 6 weeks of this so I am peaking when I should be peaking.
bean5er
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Just going to throw some observations out there as far as what I'm doing nutrition wise.
First, weight had held steady at 209-210 upon rising so I'm assuming that Initial drop was water and glycogen. Going to continue this layout for 5/6 more days then slowly add carbs in and cycle them.
Also on my off days I'm implementing all fat and protein for first part of day and saving carbs for last two meals. Turns out I read the same article Kleen posted the other day on meadow's site.
By doing this it is said the body will better utile carbs later in the day and in turn you will feel better as well. I will say I'm feeling much better having protein and fats throughout the day and eating my carbs later. I typically struggle finishing my day with protein and fats only.
I am however still utilizing my peri-workout nutrition with carbs on training days. Since my main focus isn't strictly fat loss I feel this is important. The article claims it's not but I'm just experimenting. So,
Non training days
Last two meals I eat my carbs
Training days
First three meals I eat all my carbs
Pre intra post
Going well actually and if I lean up faster than anticipated I may give CBL a try.
Just my initial thoughts this far
First, weight had held steady at 209-210 upon rising so I'm assuming that Initial drop was water and glycogen. Going to continue this layout for 5/6 more days then slowly add carbs in and cycle them.
Also on my off days I'm implementing all fat and protein for first part of day and saving carbs for last two meals. Turns out I read the same article Kleen posted the other day on meadow's site.
By doing this it is said the body will better utile carbs later in the day and in turn you will feel better as well. I will say I'm feeling much better having protein and fats throughout the day and eating my carbs later. I typically struggle finishing my day with protein and fats only.
I am however still utilizing my peri-workout nutrition with carbs on training days. Since my main focus isn't strictly fat loss I feel this is important. The article claims it's not but I'm just experimenting. So,
Non training days
Last two meals I eat my carbs
Training days
First three meals I eat all my carbs
Pre intra post
Going well actually and if I lean up faster than anticipated I may give CBL a try.
Just my initial thoughts this far
MrKleen73
Legend
What they did find in a Scientific review by Alan Arganon and another guy basically regarding the "Anabolic Window" was that in a "Fasted state" protein alone post workout increased nitrogen balance by like 16 % and protein with carbs increased it almost 3 fold. However in a fed stated which included eating protein up to 4 hours prior to the workout, or aminos immediately pre workout kept nitrogen balance in an already positive state and the post workout carbs did not have a large effect at all in that situation because nitrogen balance was already high. So basically the post workout Anabolic Window was more important for "fasted" trainers than "fed" trainers. Keep in mind the aminos directly pre workout was considered a fed state.
The article I posted mentioned a formula to use to figure out how many carbs to take in post workout somewhere in the 30 - 50 range for the type of work we are doing. However the source of the carbs not as important so you could use fruit in that situation which will spike insulin, which shuttles nutrients into the muscle even though the fructose would be mostly absorbed by the liver and not the muscle leaving the muscle with high sensitivy for th glycogen later in the day while still being slammed with the protein post workout via the insulin spike. Just food for thought when you do the post workout carbs. If not fruit perhaps some High Branched Cyclic Dextrins, price is right over at Truenutrition at about $11 per lb.
bean5er
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Great stuff buddy. I was coming to the conclusion through experimentation that the anabolic window isn't as critical if pre and intra nutrition is on point.
I really hate carbs pre intra post and feel like a bloated mess tbh.
I hate fasted training but have moved away from foods pre wo and have gone to hbcd's karbolyn and even powerade for my carbs pre wo and intra (obviously). The shake pre is still weighing me down as it's usually only 30 mins before so I was thinking of switching to bcaas pre and intra , no shake.
Thoughts?
Also what do you think of my plan to slowly add carbs back in and start cycling? Or do I just jump straight to my higher levels.
I was thinking
2 hi 200-250g
1 med 150-175g
4 low 100-125g
I'm just unsure how to transition.
I will be picking up HBCD along with my whey from TN here in a week or so!
Sorry for all the questions just trying to learn and hopefully help others who may have the sane ?s
MrKleen73
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I train "fasted" on 6 grams Modern BCAA pre & 8-10 Intra in a half gallon of sugar free coolaid mix. Works great, never run out of steam and lately with the carbs late in the evening, I get even better pumps in the morning same as I do when I eat moderate carbs a couple hours before training.
So you are grouping your high and mediums together or are those just the numbers per week? A nice rotation using basically these numbers is High/medium/low/low repeat.
I think since you have been low carbing it just go right into the cycling with your first high day, and start with the higher numbers so you have more room for adjustment.
bean5er
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Sounds good I'll do that. High/medium/low low repeat sounds perfect. I'll do that for sure.
Obviously have to adjust fats individually for those days right? Fat never changed with my old coach always statues the sane no matter where carbs were at.
superbeast668
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So, family dinner tonight for my grandpas 85th.. Diet... Yeah.... I'm drinking whiskey. Don't worry I'm not on methyls :-D
Dannybeezy I got a new toy. Traditions ultralight muzzleloader. I need sausage and jerky lmao.
Dannybeezy I got a new toy. Traditions ultralight muzzleloader. I need sausage and jerky lmao.
Danb2285
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Hell yeah! I bought a TC impact and put a nikon pro staff on it a couple weeks ago. What kind of powder are u running through it?
MrKleen73
Legend
No once you start the carb cycling you would leave the protein and fats static. High protein, 70-75g fats and just cycle the carbs.
MrKleen73
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Hey I wouldn't sweat the alcohol too much especially straight whiskey or with a calorie free drink. Check this out for a good read. Invalid Link Removed
superbeast668
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I'll get back to you. I had the guy at the shop set me up.
Don't tell me that. If I had a weakness it's the bottle. I need to feel guilt from it. :-/
wasme
Legend
I did not know this. I was under the impression when the carbs were low you would increase fat. Always learning from you Chris..
Good read indeed