First timer help,orals alone?,test base etc?

[Matty300c]

Hi guys new here….this will be a journey for me and a big one.spent a lifetime hating how I look,skinny is not a good look and never has bee and I’m sick of it,I don’t wear T-shirts!…sick of it!,I want to look good,big,look in a mirror and say “yeh you look good mate”..currently trying to get the food intake/diet sorted before going hard in the gym,and will be a bodybuilding gym with big dudes,once I’m sorted with both these il be looking at maybe orals and pinning if I can do it with one good eye lol,I’m in the uk and theres that many adds popping up with this n that and probably fake so where should I get stuff?,see guys in the gym?,any legit sites,WhatsApp numbers?…..is anadrol/anavar/dbol worth doin alone on a small cycle to see what happens?,obviously the liver needs looking after,my goal is to get big/strong no matter what.i need to push myself to the limit and willing to do it,had a trt test and I’m in the high range if that makes any difference to anything.any tips/help or just advice from real users would be great,cheers guys

 

[Smont]

2 problems, #1 is food, going on cycle without fixing your diet will no result much, the food is the primary driver of weight. Steroids don't have calories in them and you need more calories and a structured meal plan.

Problem 2 is that orals make most people's appetites worse, and your limited to four to six week runs which isn't enough time to really build much actual muscle tissue in the first place.

When people do what you're aiming to do and just run short oral cycles (especially when not in a caloric surplus) and they're not eating enough they will gain a small amount of cosmetic benefits while on the drugs and then when you come off the drugs you lose the cosmetic benefits. Back in the day you would hear people talking about losing their games post-cycle, what was actually happening was they didn't make any games they were losing the cosmetic effect that the drug provides.

You're opening title tells us everything that's wrong, you're trying to get the food sorted before going hard in the gym yet you're looking for steroid cycle. So you're not eating and you're not even really working out right now but you're thinking about jumping on steroids. This is a recipe for failure. And that's not me being a jerk, that's just me being 100% honest!

There really isn't much advice to anyone can give you other then to get your food sorted out. Work on progressive overload and once you've put on a good chunk of weight so that you know you're actually heading in the right direction then maybe consider the other things.

I can tell you that a injectable cycle that lasts upwards of 10 to 12 weeks will do significantly more than a short oral cycle. Testosterone will increase your appetite a little as opposed to the orals lowering it. And we're not a source sharing forum so we cant tell you what is or isint a good source.

If you wanted to start with the most mild approach possible and test the waters you could run 300-400mg 4 andro and 600mg epiandro and those are not liver toxic and they don't have really any negative effects on blood work. You could run something like that for 8 to 12 weeks no problem and it won't suppress your appetite. You would still want some nolvadex or enclomphine for pct

 

[Matty300c]

Any advice is good advice buddy for a beginner so appreciate the reply…I need to get my shiz together for certain

 

[Castaway]

Any advice is good advice buddy for a beginner so appreciate the reply…I need to get my shiz together for certain

What are your current stats? Goals? Spacific I mean. Have you reached close to what you feel are your max as goals go, ie: strength, bf%, endurance naturally?