First time user logging a Havoc cycle

i dealed with the same thing a couple days into my cycle(headaches). its gone away tho. keep up the log. looks good man:biggthumpup:
 
Day#6 1/16/2009

sWaking Weight~204.8

30mg today

Workout~ME Squat Day

Sumo Deadlifts
135x8
205x2
255x1
325x1
375x1
405x1
425x1
Romanian Deadlifts off 6" box
225x6
245x6
Lying Leg Curls
105x12
135x8
Reverse Hypers
50x8
50x8 + Mini Band
50x8 + 2 Mini Bands
40x8 + 2 Mini Bands
Chest Supported Rows using 3 different grips
180x8
180x8
180x8
Alternating DB Hammer Curls
35x10
40x10
50x10
55x8
Weighted Cable Crunches and Weighted Leg Raises

~DONE~

No headaches today. Felt strong in the gym, 425 Dead is my best in several years, My PR is 450 2 years ago in a meet. My weight is up 4.8 pounds, but I did notice my uniform belt felt a little snug last night at work. So not 100% sure where this weight is just yet. Plan to do measurements this weekend and each weekend throughout the cycle, to better track progress.

Also I did use the lifepack outta the Medic unit last night at work to check my vitals. BP 114/76 Pulse 67 No complaints there
 
Day #7 1/17/2009

Waking Weight~ 203.6

30 mg today

Workout~ Off day from weights

Did 30 min 4mph at 5% incline this morning before breakfast.

Nothing special to report today.
 
Day # 8 1/18/2009

Waking Weight~ 205.2

So at the conclusion of week one I am up 5.2 pounds, pretty impressed with the weight gain so far.

Workout~ A complete rest day.

I only got about 3 hours of sleep last night. We had an extremely busy night at the fire station and I got horrible sleep. So most of today was spent relaxing.

Back at the gym tomorrow, so stay tuned for week 2 results.
 
DAY #19 1/19/2009

Waking Weight~ 204.4

Workout~ Speed Bench

My journal is in the truck and its cold, so no details of workout right now.

Nothing special today, still kinda dragging from a crazy night at work Sat.

Flat Bench(3 diff grips all for explosive speed)
135 BB Weight plus Avg Bands for 9 sets
Straight Bar Skulls
80x10
80x10
80x10
80x10
Plate Raise
35x10
45x10
45x10
Tricep Rope Pressdown
50x12
60x12
60x12
DB Lateral Raise
20x10
25x10
25x10
Reverse Pec Deck
75x10
75x10
90x10
Lat Pulldown
100x10
100x10
100x10
Low Cable Row
100x10
100x10
100x10
Cable Crunches
150x25
150x25
Weighted Leg Raises
15x10
15x10

~DONE~
 
DAY # 10 1/20/2009

Waking Weight~ 204.6

Workout~ Dynamic Squat Day

Parallel Box Squats
125 BB Weight + Avg Bands Double Choked to bottom of rack
10 sets of 2 reps
Dimel Deads
205x10
205x10
205x10
Leg Extension
50x20
50x15 Both sets done single leg
Band Seated Leg Curls
12
10
12
Pull Throughs
90x10
105x10
120x10
Reverse Hyper
30x12
30x12
30x12
Incline DB Curl
30x10
35x10
40x10

~DONE~

Nothing out of the ordinary to report for today.
 
hey man. Just from my experience so far, I felt a slight strength increase on Day 10 from it. I buckled and bumped it to 40mg today (day 12 for me). Strenght is up, pumps are harsh.....I swelled up like a blimp from them at the gym lol. Hoping you get the same results around this time.
 
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Whats your libido and motivation like at the moment? :)
 
Chub said:
Whats your libido and motivation like at the moment? :)
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I really have not noticed any change in either area. I have always had great motivation to hit the gym and that has continued. As far as libido, I still try to get it 5 times a day and she tells me no atleast 10 times a day, damn women, LMAO. All and all I feel great, but not really any different than off cycle. Strength seems to be up a bit and today is morning of day 11 and I am up 6.2 pounds.
 
Day# 11 1/221/2009

Waking Weight~206.2

Still at 30mg for this week

Workout~ All Light Weight Supersets since next two days are max effort days

Did not log any weights used, good workout, avg pump, doing some cardio this afternoon plus abs.
 
maurice02 said:
hey man. Just from my experience so far, I felt a slight strength increase on Day 10 from it. I buckled and bumped it to 40mg today (day 12 for me). Strenght is up, pumps are harsh.....I swelled up like a blimp from them at the gym lol. Hoping you get the same results around this time.
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Agree with the 40mg and strengths up and pumps up too.

Im on day 10 with 50mg and no sides.
Day 35 since start of cycle.

Gonna go the whole 6 weeks and finish 2 bottles off.

Made some awesome gains as well.

PCT (with SERM) is all lined up as well.


following you here ffmedic32
 
boo99 said:
Agree with the 40mg and strengths up and pumps up too.

Im on day 10 with 50mg and no sides.
Day 35 since start of cycle.

Gonna go the whole 6 weeks and finish 2 bottles off.

Made some awesome gains as well.

PCT (with SERM) is all lined up as well.


following you here ffmedic32
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Running 50mg on day 10, damn. Is this your first time using Havoc or have ya been down this road before?

I am doing 30 now, planning to bump up to 40mg this sunday and run it at 40mg for the last 3 weeks, so a total of 5 weeks.

I am up 6.2 pounds right now, not sure I can say its 100% LBM gain.
I dont think I look any bigger. My girl said last night she thought my legs were getting bigger, as if they need to grow. I have a hard time getting pants to fit correctly now. I did measurments at day 7 and my waist was up 1/2 inch and chest up 3/4 inch, all others stayed the same.
 
ffmedic32 said:
Running 50mg on day 10, damn. Is this your first time using Havoc or have ya been down this road before?

I am doing 30 now, planning to bump up to 40mg this sunday and run it at 40mg for the last 3 weeks, so a total of 5 weeks.

I am up 6.2 pounds right now, not sure I can say its 100% LBM gain.
I dont think I look any bigger. My girl said last night she thought my legs were getting bigger, as if they need to grow. I have a hard time getting pants to fit correctly now. I did measurments at day 7 and my waist was up 1/2 inch and chest up 3/4 inch, all others stayed the same.
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heya, yup 50mg till the end. First time on havoc/Epi--yes-- but I did a cycle of Anavar when I lived in Venice CA years ago. There was a lot there to choose from at Golds then but I had heard it (Anavar) was mild for the 1st time so did 5 weeks of it.

I wish I can do that again since Anavar is very kind to the liver and water retent is nearly non existent with it as well.

As far as this cycle, I know I gained some LBM but who can say how much from the weight I gained. I know I gained muscle but it aint all LBM.

Clothes are one of the best ways to know we are gaining-- be it LBM or not.

I know there are definite changes in my size, I even posted a bicep before/during pic on bb.com.

Bumping to 40mg is when most say they see the best changes on havoc.
I dont know if 50mg is a waste or not but Im doing it this way since I have gone up with my max lifts with it. I do see more acne as of today which will be monitored.

Im getting more bloodwork on Friday again if I can get in to my MD.

be well ffmedic32!



boo
 
ffmedic32 said:
Running 50mg on day 10, damn. Is this your first time using Havoc or have ya been down this road before?

I am doing 30 now, planning to bump up to 40mg this sunday and run it at 40mg for the last 3 weeks, so a total of 5 weeks.

I am up 6.2 pounds right now, not sure I can say its 100% LBM gain.
I dont think I look any bigger. My girl said last night she thought my legs were getting bigger, as if they need to grow. I have a hard time getting pants to fit correctly now. I did measurments at day 7 and my waist was up 1/2 inch and chest up 3/4 inch, all others stayed the same.
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Hey what is up. I noticed you were up 6.2 already. I am on day 14 and have eaten completely clean so far, probably less than what I should and up 5 pounds. nothing has gone to my waist thankfully LoL. You been eating clean?
 
Gotta slip in a cheat day at least once a week! :D
 
maurice02 said:
Hey what is up. I noticed you were up 6.2 already. I am on day 14 and have eaten completely clean so far, probably less than what I should and up 5 pounds. nothing has gone to my waist thankfully LoL. You been eating clean?
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Yeah I have been pretty clean. I usually eat clean all year long. I do have a cheat meal here and there. Like we had pizza for lunch the other day.
I dont need any more around my waist thats for sure. All my pants are fitting tighter, buts its all in the thigh area..LOL
 
Day# 12 1/22/2009

Waking Weight~ 205.8

Workout~ ME Bench Day

Flat Bench
125x6
185x4
225x2
265x1 3 boards
285x1 3 boards
300x1 3 boards
310x a flippin miss on 3 boards
285x1 raw to chest
JM Press
135x10
165x8
185x6
205x6
DB Skulls Palms IN
30x10
35x8
40x4 35x4
35x10 all sets were enhanced with a mini band around back
Seated DB Military
45x8
60x8
75x7
75x7
Wide Grip Pull Ups
3 sets of 10, assisted with an avg band
Reverse Grip Bent Over Rows
135x8
185x8
185x8

P90x Cardio X DVD

~DONE~

Nothing special to report today, did have a bit of that annoying headache this evening again.
 
Day # 13 1/23/2009

No weight today

Workout~ ME Squat Day

Sumo Deadlifts
135x8
225x3
315x1
405x1
440x1
460x1-------NEW PR HELL YEAH
Glute Ham Raise
BWx10
40x6
50x6
Lying Leg Curl
105x8
135x6
150x6
Reverse Hyper
30x10
30x10
30x10 all sets enhanced with 2 mini bands
Chest Supported Rows
180x10
230x8
230x8
260x8
Hammer Curls
35x10
40x8
50x6
60x6

~DONE~

Pretty flippin pysched about the new PR on my dead.
 
Day# 14 1/24/2009

Waking Weight~ 206.6

Workout~ Off day, probably due some light abs and cardio later today.

Bumpin up to 40mg starting tomorrow.

Strength seems to be up some, I did pull 460 yesterday which is a PR.

Libidio is still up, no signs of shutdown yet.

Overall I really dont feel any different, but its just the end of week 2.

Only neg I have had so far are some light annoying headaches.

Positives~ My weight is up 6.6 pounds this morning

As far as the PR deadlift, not 100% sure thats Havoc, I have been training Westside style for about 5 weeks now. So I am sure that applying Louie's techniques have had a significant impact on my lifts.
 
DAY# 17 1/27/2009

Waking Weight~ 208.9

Missed updating the log over the weekend, just took the weekend off to rest a bit.

Workout~ Speed Bench Day

Forgot my journal at work, so I did not log anything today.

Overall good workout, great pump and some badass vascularity in my arms.

So at the start of week 3 my gains are looking like this.

DATE Week 3
WEIGHT +7.8
NECK same
Shoulder
CHEST +3/4
BI same
BI-FLEX +1/4
FOREARM same
WAIST +1 1/2
QUAD +3/4
CALVE + 1/4
BF % same




I really hope that the increased waist measurment is actually an increase in lower back size since I been hitting it hard with deads and reverse hypers.

Oh I seriously dont believe that I am 11% Bodyfat, but thats what I come up with so I just use it as a tool.
 
Have been taking some progress pics along with my Havoc to see what kinda changes actually take place.

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All and all I am up about 9 pounds at the start of week 3.
 
Day # 18 1/28/2009

Waking Weight~ 208.8

Workout~ Dynamic Squat Day

Parellel Box Squat
135 Barbell plus Avg Bands for 10 sets of 2 reps
Dimel Deads
185x10
205x8
225x8
Leg Press
300x10
300x10
300x10
Leg Curl Lying
80x12
80x12
80x12
Leg Ext
100x12
100x12
100x12
Seated Calf Raise
70x10
70x10
70x10
Reverse Hyper
30x12
30x10
Glute Ham Raise
2 sets of 10
Hanging Leg Raises
4 sets of 12
Standing Oblique Crunches
50x12
60x12
65x12

~DONE~

Really had a hard time getting motivated today, just was not feeling it today.
Found a great recipe for back pumps,,Havoc plus reverse hyper,,LOL,,damn
 
Day# 19 1/29/2009

Waking Weight~ 209

Off day from heavy weights, just did some general work.

Biceps Curls, forearm curls, shrugs, calf raises, ab work , 15 min on treadmill.

~DONE~

I have plans for a 5 week cycle just found out my department is shipping me to New Mexico for Suicide Bomber training for the entire 5th week. So I gotta find a place to lift out there. Or should I maybe bump to 50mg for the 4th wek and stop it after 4 weeks?
 
ffmedic32 said:
Have been taking some progress pics along with my Havoc to see what kinda changes actually take place.

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All and all I am up about 9 pounds at the start of week 3.
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nice positive changes there bro!

good job man


boo
 
Hi guys, I've been following this post a little over a week now and love it. Good job, keep it up. I've been thinking about doing havoc for awhile now and you've inspired me to do so.

Here's my question: I'm 5'7" and 160lbs. should I take havoc at
20,20,20,30,30,30,30
30,30,30,30,30,30,30
40,40,40,40,40,40,40
40,40,40,40,40,40,40
40,40,40,40,40,40,40

like you guys, or because of my weight, take smaller doses. Please let me know what you think. Thx
 
bucsFan said:
Hi guys, I've been following this post a little over a week now and love it. Good job, keep it up. I've been thinking about doing havoc for awhile now and you've inspired me to do so.

Here's my question: I'm 5'7" and 160lbs. should I take havoc at
20,20,20,30,30,30,30
30,30,30,30,30,30,30
40,40,40,40,40,40,40
40,40,40,40,40,40,40
40,40,40,40,40,40,40

like you guys, or because of my weight, take smaller doses. Please let me know what you think. Thx
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Need a bit more info before offering solid advice man. How old are ya, how long been lifting, prior ds/ph experience.

The dosing you have listed above is my exact schedule for this cycle.
 
Day#20 1/30/2009

Waking Weight~ 209.8

Workout~ ME Bench Day

Flat Bench
Barx12
135x8
185x2
225x1
265x1
290x1
300x1----NEW PR---- Finally busted the 300 mark
315x1--off 3 boards---PR for 3 boards also
First time benching 300, I felt huge after that. I know not huge weight, but I am pysched about it.
JM Press
135x10
185x6
215x4
225x4
DB Tricep Extension
30x8
35x6
40x6
35x6---All sets enhanced with mini band
DB Military
45x8
60x6
70x6
80x6
Wide Grip Pull Up
3 sets of 10,,,assistance with avg band
Reverse Grip Bent Over Row
135x10
185x6
205x6
Weighted AB Work 9 sets

~DONE~

Great workout great pump, up 10 pounds, libidio is great, no acne, no shutdown, Loving me some Havoc so far
 
nice work on the PR!
 
Need a bit more info before offering solid advice man. How old are ya, how long been lifting, prior ds/ph experience.

The dosing you have listed above is my exact schedule for this cycle.


Ok I'm 29, I've lifting on and off the last 10 yrs. I've been lifting four days a week consistently the past 18 months or so. I have zero experience with ph. I've had friends take ph before so I know what they know and what I have researched over the last few months.
 
Day#24 2/3/2009

Morning Weight~ 213

Workout~ Chest and Tri's

Great workout today, had great energy and focus. Did flat bench 225 for 11, which is the best I have done is some time.

Took superbowl weekend off and rested up a bit, plus got some good cheat meals in Sunday. I would hate to know how many pounds of fried Walleye and Perch I consumed.

So all and all I have to say Havoc has been great to me.
I am up about 14 pounds, some of it is fat, i will start the cardio back up in PCT
My strength is up all around.
I have had no side effects aside from the occasional back pump.

I had planned for 5 weeks, but really thinking that I may just stop at 4 weeks, since gains are good and no sides. Thinking I might be better to stop while I am ahead.
 
are your arms feeling pumped like all the time? mine are and its great lol
 
Yeah I feel a good pump most of the day. I have noticed that I can get a pump type feeling from doing very little. Like today I was painting my bathroom, I felt like I did an hour in the gym..LOL

I do know that I have an addiction to the mirror lately. Can't help but to check out my gains, every time I walk by.
 
2/8/2009

Ok so I have totally let this thread go, life has been so busy lately. I am sitting here at the Columbus airport trying to get this updated. So I decided to stop after 4 weeks. Had great gains no sides. Took my first dose of Nolva last night before bed. Holy SH*T that stuff taste like A**....LOL

All and all I ended up about 13 pounds of gain. Seems to be mostly solid. Week one of PCT is gonna be spent in New Mexico for training. So this might be interesting.
 
Alright well digging thru the cupboards and found I still have a bottle of havoc,,so I think its time for round 2 to kick off..

Gonna run
Havoc
Cycle Support
Liver tabs
Vit C
BCAA +G
Fish Oil
Taurine

PCT will be
Diesel Test
Liquid Nolva
Relora
and the normal support supps

I am starting lighter and leaner with a perfect diet this time....Anxious to see where it will go this time
 
Im on board man! Im gonna run mine in jan for 6 weeks...How did everything end up on your 1st run of Havoc? did you keep everything, or did all the strength/muscle flush down the toilet?
 
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