First Run Log Epi/Stano

justeat said:
Looks good so far bro! I was debating bumping the Epi but after what you said, 45 seems like a good place to be. 10lbs in 3 weeks is solid... More time to gain. Ad if not, more time to solidify these gains. Win win either way
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60 had me feeling rough for those few days. Had I not gotten sick, I would've stuck it out, but the 45 feels great. I'll probably kick the Stano up to 1400 next week. I have enough to run that through the end.

Yeah bro...I'm gonna make a hard run these last 3 weeks.

You keep killin it too :D
 
Did we lose you? I haven't seen any updates in a few days.
 
Last week's training was tough after being sick, but all the work got done and I added Saturday as a training day again. Figured, why not get after it with a couple weeks left.

Today, I'm feeling great. I upped that dose back to 60 on Epi and Stano is still 1200.

Weight is still around 232 and that's solid for me. I'm gonna take these last two weeks, eat slightly above maintenance and build a little more and recomp some.

Sides have been non-existent. I've been feeling sharp.


Here's my thoughts though...next cycle, I'm just pinning Test ;)
 
Good to see you back! I'm a couple weeks behind you, so I've been following looking for ideas on what to expect. I felt that ON feeling this morning and didn't want to leave the gym. I'm at 45epi and 1000 stano. Did you notice much difference moving to 1200 stano? I'm at 195 lbs, so maybe I should stay where I'm at? Thanks for your thoughts and your log!
 
eddieaz said:
Good to see you back! I'm a couple weeks behind you, so I've been following looking for ideas on what to expect. I felt that ON feeling this morning and didn't want to leave the gym. I'm at 45epi and 1000 stano. Did you notice much difference moving to 1200 stano? I'm at 195 lbs, so maybe I should stay where I'm at? Thanks for your thoughts and your log!
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I toyed with the dosing of the Epi and Stano.

In the morning, I would take 15 Epi & 400 Stano. Then, do the exact same thing twice more.

Then, I took 30 Epi & 400 Stano and I could feel the difference. I felt the Epi hit a bit more. I feel better when the Stano is shining.

Now, I am at 30 Epi/600 Stano twice a day and I feel it's the $$$ dosage for me. It hits a little harder and it's a nice preworkout hit.
 
Abadjiev said:
I toyed with the dosing of the Epi and Stano.

In the morning, I would take 15 Epi & 400 Stano. Then, do the exact same thing twice more.

Then, I took 30 Epi & 400 Stano and I could feel the difference. I felt the Epi hit a bit more. I feel better when the Stano is shining.

Now, I am at 30 Epi/600 Stano twice a day and I feel it's the $$$ dosage for me. It hits a little harder and it's a nice preworkout hit.
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I see. Maybe instead of taking it 3x a day, I'll try 2. 30/600 in the morning (that's when I work out), and 15/400 in the evening.
 
eddieaz said:
I see. Maybe instead of taking it 3x a day, I'll try 2. 30/600 in the morning (that's when I work out), and 15/400 in the evening.
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Dosing is up to you. I'm a newb myself, so I'm just testing what works for me.

Well, today is the beginning of week 5 and I feel like I can push these products a bit more...so...I'm bumping Epi to 75 and Stano to 1400. Might as well really dig in these last couple of weeks.

Morning weight: 230.6 (+9.6lbs in 4wks)

BF %: down about 1.5 - 2 %

Sides: Nonexistent. I completely took out the Formeron because it felt unnecessary. I'll save that for pct and taper out to prevent rebound.

Lifts: Strength has been about the same. Nothing really crazy to report here. I definitely have an aggressiveness most days, slightly more than usual, but I'm always aggressive when it comes to lifting. I like to get sh*t done!!! In reality, strength that is maintainable comes from proper programming, not compounds.

Goals for rest of cycle: lose another 1-2% bf and maybe add another couple lbs. If I can walk out of these 6wks + pct with 6-8lbs LBM and be down BF, I count that as a win.
 
Walked into the gym today and KILLED IT!!!

Highlights:

Snatch PR - 209lbs

Clean & Jerk PR: 260lbs

Front Squats up to 305 x 1 x 3sets
 
So, I've been feeling really solid these last few days. On a lot of the Epi reviews/logs, I see that around week 5 is when they feel the most lethargic, but I seem to not be having that. I was more lethargic a couple weeks back while it was kicking in. Today, I'm feelin $$$.

Headed to the gym in a couple and I'm gonna blast this last week and a half at 90 Epi and see how it goes. Next time, I think I'll run it right from 60 and then work up. It has felt very mild and the sides have been basically nonexistent.
 
Abadjiev said:
So, I've been feeling really solid these last few days. On a lot of the Epi reviews/logs, I see that around week 5 is when they feel the most lethargic, but I seem to not be having that. I was more lethargic a couple weeks back while it was kicking in. Today, I'm feelin $$$.

Headed to the gym in a couple and I'm gonna blast this last week and a half at 90 Epi and see how it goes. Next time, I think I'll run it right from 60 and then work up. It has felt very mild and the sides have been basically nonexistent.
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That's very encouraging! Like I said before, I'm a couple weeks behind you and the ON is definitely ON. My recovery time seems to be WAY up. I'm at 45 epi and 1000 stano and feeling pretty great. I may try bumping stano to 1200 next week. We'll see.

Thanks for the updates!
 
eddieaz said:
That's very encouraging! Like I said before, I'm a couple weeks behind you and the ON is definitely ON. My recovery time seems to be WAY up. I'm at 45 epi and 1000 stano and feeling pretty great. I may try bumping stano to 1200 next week. We'll see.

Thanks for the updates!
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I consistently kept the Stano moving up and the Epi at a slower rate. I think this is what kept the sides at bay.

Keep at it. Good luck.
 
Good to hear man...in at the end of week 5 now and feeling ok with lethargy and all, but my body is deff feeling it more. Maybe it's the Epi's drying effects, or just a lot or stress on my body with the aggressive weights. Either way, good to see that it's treating you well- I'm interested In seeing how 90mg treats you.

Have you noticed benefits from going to 45->60?
And how have the gains been so far?
 
justeat said:
Good to hear man...in at the end of week 5 now and feeling ok with lethargy and all, but my body is deff feeling it more. Maybe it's the Epi's drying effects, or just a lot or stress on my body with the aggressive weights. Either way, good to see that it's treating you well- I'm interested In seeing how 90mg treats you.

Have you noticed benefits from going to 45->60?
And how have the gains been so far?
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Recovery feels much better and aggressiveness is UP exponentially with the jumps from 45 -> 60, and even more noticeable with the jump from 60 ->75.

As for the dryness, I felt it most around week 3, but I bumped fish oil up to 4-5 capsules daily and jumped my daily glucosamine Chondroiton from 2 to 3 tabs. It's a non issue lately with those changes.
 
Today's Session:

Dialed this session back a little to prepare for a raping on Tuesday. Probably be going for maxes.


Snatches (Dead Hang/Above knee/Below Knee):

88lbs x 3 x3sets
110lbs x3 x4sets
132lbs x 3 x3sets


Power Clean + Push Jerk:

132lbs x 2 x3sets
154lbs x 1 x2sets
176lbs x 1 x4 sets


***Tempo: (Concentric: Pause : Eccentric)***

Superset:
Tempo Flat BB Bench (3:2:3 tempo)/Low Tempo Band Flies (3:3:3 tempo)

135x10/15reps (x2)
185x5/12 reps (x2)
185x10/15reps

That last set was a push.
Feelin great today. Back pumps were nothing crazy, but certainly noticeable.
 
Can't get moving this morning. Lethargy hit HARD today for some reason. Gonna grab a coffee and get this day rollin. I have 3 clients to train and then I gotta take the kids swimming later. Time to man up!

Weight has been hovering around 233 the last few days and I've been eating nonstop. Looking like I'm carrying a little water this morning, but I did drink near an extra gallon yesterday with being outside ALL day.

10 days left til PCT. Gonna run hard though the finish line. Will add a couple double sessions and up the food a bit.
 
Woke up f*cking ready for it!!!

Epi still at 90/Stano at 1400

Rocking this last week and a half OUT!!!!!!!


Today:

Snatch Doubles: (floor/below knee)
110x2 x3sets
132x2 x2sets
154x2 x2sets
165x2
176x2
187x2
198x2 x2sets

Snatch Singles: (floor)
220x1 x3sets


Clean + 3 Split Jerks:
154x1 x2sets
186x1 x3sets
198x1 x2sets

Front Squats:
Up to 308x1 x5sets


Everything was smooth and fast as hell today. On damn point!!!
 
Abadjiev said:
Woke up f*cking ready for it!!!

Epi still at 90/Stano at 1400

Rocking this last week and a half OUT!!!!!!!

Today:

Snatch Doubles: (floor/below knee)
110x2 x3sets
132x2 x2sets
154x2 x2sets
165x2
176x2
187x2
198x2 x2sets

Snatch Singles: (floor)
220x1 x3sets

Clean + 3 Split Jerks:
154x1 x2sets
186x1 x3sets
198x1 x2sets

Front Squats:
Up to 308x1 x5sets

Everything was smooth and fast as hell today. On damn point!!!
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Awesome. Killing it;)
 
Looking great keep it up man. Finish strong this was definitely a successful run
 
justeat said:
Looking great keep it up man. Finish strong this was definitely a successful run
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Thanks, brosef.

I agree, this has been successful. I've been working on the research necessary to do a 12wk test cycle in the early fall. 500-750mg/wk.

That should make things interesting ;)

I'm curious to see the residual gains after this cycle though. PCT and diet will be tight, so I'm hoping for a nice set of gains.
 
Today:

Weight: 234.8 (+13.8lbs in 5wks)


2 Full Cleans + 1 Split Jerk (whole set = 1):
132x1 x3sets
154x1 x2sets
176x1
198x1 x2sets
220x1 x3sets

HOLY FUUUUU*K were these feeling heavy today!!! After all those snatches yesterday, my hams and calves were just murdered.

Snatch High Pulls:
220x4 x2sets
242x4 x2sets
264x4 x3sets

Squats:
186x5 x2sets
220x5 x2sets
264x5
285x5
308x5 x2sets
330x5 x2sets


I'm smoked. It took everything I had to finish. Sh*t, it took everything I had to get there. I didn't sleep well or long and I was just feeling roughed up.
 
A much needed off day today. Thank God.

Body was just feelin it from this week of training. Toss in the Kenpo 3-4 days a week as well and I've been getting my a$$ handed to me.

Weight holding just under 235 again, which is almost 14 full lbs in 5wks. Today is the start of week 6.

Epi @ 90
Stano @ 1400
Ar1macare Pro @ 6 caps daily (just bumped it at the end of last week when I kicked to 90)

Back to the grind tomorrow!!!
 
Feelin pretty rough still. May dial the Epi back this week and cruise into pct at a lower dose. Major lethargy today, but I hammered my session earlier. I have been having serious issues getting to sleep AND staying asleep.

5 days left and then pct starts.

Weight holding at a steady 234.8lbs. Hoping to end pct at around 230. That would be 9lbs off this cycle with no raise in bf %. I would count that as a win!
 
Woke up feeling rested and outstanding this morning. Slept like a brick. I needed that.

Gonna hit the gym before my 12hr shift.

I have no programming scheduled today, so I'm thinking a BRO DAY :D

I haven't done a DB Bench in forever, so those are on tap with some arms and shoulders. I can full Clean 300+lbs, but a few reps with some DB Bench are gonna cripple me lol. Looking forward to it.
 
PUMP F*CKING CITY!!!

Triple-Set:

DB Incline Bench/Power Jerks off Blocks/BB Tempo Curls:

60s x 12/176 x 5/70 x 10

x 8 rounds


My blood is going and I'm sweating like a lesbian in a fish market!!!
 
Abadjiev said:
PUMP F*CKING CITY!!! Triple-Set: DB Incline Bench/Power Jerks off Blocks/BB Tempo Curls: 60s x 12/176 x 5/70 x 10 x 8 rounds My blood is going and I'm sweating like a lesbian in a fish market!!!
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Woohoo! Keep it up! Just a few more days left. Are you going to continue your log into pct?
 
Abadjiev said:
Yeah, since it's my first cycle, I thought it would be beneficial to have my viewpoint recorded for future new users.
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Thanks! I'll keep watching. Glad to see all your gains. I'm hoping you get to keep most f them.
 
Morning weight: 236.8 (+15.8 overall)

Felt really great this morning even though I slept like garbage.

Today's session:

Snatch Triples:
110x3 x3sets
132x3 x3sets
154x3 x3sets

Power Clean & Jerk singles:
132x1 x2sets
154x1 x2sets
187x1 x5sets

Front Squats:
187x3 warmup
220x1 x2sets
242x1
264x1
275x1
all that was basically warmup stuff...
308x1 x3sets
308x5 x3sets

W-Bar Curls:
up to 110x10 x5sets

Squats felt great today. Overall, I moved outstanding from the start. My jerks were the fastest they've ever been...granted, it was very light...but, I stayed tight and killed all lifts.
 
Keep it up! How are the gains going? Are you close to your goals?
 
eddieaz said:
Keep it up! How are the gains going? Are you close to your goals?
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The gains are great.

Today is the final day before PCT.
This morning, I weighed 234.2lbs upon waking up. That's 13.2lbs after 6wks. But, I added ZERO bf. I'm not really sure I went down in BF%, but I certainly did not go up. That's a fkn win in my book!

Sides were basically nonexistent this entire 6wks and overall, it was simple and to the point.

As I got up into Epi at 90, I upped my cycle support and fish oil and I felt GREAT.

This was a solid first run and I'll be starting pct tomorrow. I'll keep some posts going through PCT to address strength and gain retention.

Today's session is going to be a goddamn BEAR, so I'm gonna give it a hard run!!!
 
Today's session is going to be a goddamn BEAR, so I'm gonna give it a hard run!!![/QUOTE]

Bust it like a big dog!
 
Today:


Clean & Jerk singles:
132lbs x 1 x3
176x1 x3
198x1
220x1
231x1
242x1
253x1 x5

Clean High Pulls:
231x3 x2
286x3 x3

Front Squats:
A bunch of sets up to...
308x3 x5

Chins: (pause at dead hang)
BWx10 x4


Looked like more on paper. I beasted this session. Not even a flinch on any one of these reps.
 
Weight: 235.0


1st Day of PCT:

Nolva: 20
DAA: 4 caps
Sup3r PCT: 4 caps

Also, added creatine and BCAAs back into the daily regimen. Diet will stay the same in hopes to retain majority of gains from the cycle.

Easy setup. No worries.
 
Today's Training:

Snatch Triples from power position:
A bunch of sets up to...
135x3 x5sets

Power Clean/Full Clean set:

135x1/135x1 x3sets
185x1/185x1 x3sets
205x1/205x1 x3sets

Pause Front Squats:
A bunch of sets up to...
275x5 x3sets


Relatively light session. Much needed for how consistently heavy we have been going.
 
Abadjiev said:
Today's Training:

Snatch Triples from power position:
A bunch of sets up to...
135x3 x5sets

Power Clean/Full Clean set:

135x1/135x1 x3sets
185x1/185x1 x3sets
205x1/205x1 x3sets

Pause Front Squats:
A bunch of sets up to...
275x5 x3sets

Relatively light session. Much needed for how consistently heavy we have been going.
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Keep rockin it! Are you feeling any different now that you're on pct?
 
Day 4 of PCT:

Weight: 235.8lbs (+.8 since Friday)
Though I imagine that excess is from stored glycogen from having two off days in a row this weekend and not having my water as high as usual because it was a BUSY weekend.

No side effects or negatives so far in PCT. I'm not gonna lie, I kind of enjoy the chemically taste of the nolva; I drink it straight up and no need to wash it down. Hunger was down the first two days, but seems to be back to normal.

Will keep updating through the next few weeks.
 
Today:

Feelin pretty solid.


Snatch Triples (Power Position/Above Knee/Below Knee):

Up to 154lbs x 3 x5sets


Power Clean/Squat Clean Superset:
Up to 198x2 x5sets


Front Squats:
Up to 300x3 x4sets


Nothing crazy about this session. Coach is lowering volume and sandbagging this week to go real hard next week and the following. Then, a meet in 4wks.
 
So far so good! Let us know how the workout go!
 
Feeling $$$ today!!!

Morning Weight: 236.2

Today's session:

Snatches:
110x3 x3sets
132x1 x3 sets
154x1
165x1
...begin Waves...
Waves of
176x1/187x1/198x1/209x1
(1min rest between each weight... 3 full waves)

Sweating Bullets right about now!!!

2 Front Squats/1 Split Jerk: (full complex = 1)
132x1 x3sets
176x1 x2sets
198x1
220x1
242x1 x3sets

Snatch Grip Deadlifts with 5count pause above knee:

242x5 x5sets


This was a great session. I'm feeling really confident in all my lifts and my positions are near flawless at the moment. Always progressing and looking to be better.
 
I haven't felt this outstanding in quite some time. I feel like I'm coming back to some normalcy.

- Didnt sweat through my shirt last night. First time in over a month lol.
- I woke up with a RAGER. My lady was more than pleased. Finally starting to get a little libido back.
- Strength is staying high and I seem less winded while training.


Today:

Cleans (singles):
132x5 x3 sets
176x1 x2 sets
198x1
220x1
242x1
264x1
275x1
286x1
302x1
319x1
...drop to doubles with 1min rest in between...
264x2 x2 sets


Snatch Grip Behind the Neck Push Presses:
176x5 x2 sets
198x5 x3 sets


Squats:
220x5
264x3
286x3
308x3
330x3 x2 sets
341x3 x2 sets


Smoooooooth session. Everything moved really well and technique was feeling precise.
 
What are you taking for pct? Seems like it's working well for you.
 
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