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First REAL cycle. "HELP ME OUT"

Cantell

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Ok, I know the bashing will come, but I am looking at starting my first cycle.

Stats:

Lifting 5 years
22 Years old
Weight 195lbs 13-14% Bf (been at this along time)

Lifts:
Bench 330
Deads 3x5 345lbs
Squat 3x5 385

History, done a few PH cycles to NO avail excpect a little "cutt" from Hdrol.


PLAN: Test E (I believe) for 12 weeks by itself at 500mg.

PCT: Nolva 40-40-20-20 with a natty test booster.



QUESTIONS!!!!

1. Should I take a cycle support throughout? Ie, milk thistle, hawthore berry, ect.

2. Should I change routine? (Gonna do a 3x a week, chest/tris, legs/shou, back/bis)

3. Diet! Plan on putting on some mass clean as possible, should I be alot over maintanence? Or with the help from the "GEAR" could I eat at or even under maintanence and still gain size? I know naturally you can not.

4. Is TEST alone good for decent gains? Or what should I expect?
 
QUESTIONS!!!!

1. Should I take a cycle support throughout? Ie, milk thistle, hawthore berry, ect.

2. Should I change routine? (Gonna do a 3x a week, chest/tris, legs/shou, back/bis)

3. Diet! Plan on putting on some mass clean as possible, should I be alot over maintanence? Or with the help from the "GEAR" could I eat at or even under maintanence and still gain size? I know naturally you can not.

4. Is TEST alone good for decent gains? Or what should I expect?

1) no, there is no significant liver strain, blood pressure is the only at all likely side, and its not very likely at that dose
2) no
3) you should still shoot for 500-1000 over maintenance a day
4) yes, you got to where you are with less than 1/3 that amount of test, why wouldn't more than tripling what you have naturally be good for gains
 
Thanks for the reply.

Stupid question: If you were to eat below maintanence, and be on a cycle like this, "what would likely happen"?

Side note, I plan on watching BP closely. Kinda worries me
 
Ok, I know the bashing will come, but I am looking at starting my first cycle.

Stats:

Lifting 5 years
22 Years old
Weight 195lbs 13-14% Bf (been at this along time)

Lifts:
Bench 330
Deads 3x5 345lbs
Squat 3x5 385

History, done a few PH cycles to NO avail excpect a little "cutt" from Hdrol.


PLAN: Test E (I believe) for 12 weeks by itself at 500mg.

PCT: Nolva 40-40-20-20 with a natty test booster.



QUESTIONS!!!!

1. Should I take a cycle support throughout? Ie, milk thistle, hawthore berry, ect.

2. Should I change routine? (Gonna do a 3x a week, chest/tris, legs/shou, back/bis)

3. Diet! Plan on putting on some mass clean as possible, should I be alot over maintanence? Or with the help from the "GEAR" could I eat at or even under maintanence and still gain size? I know naturally you can not.

4. Is TEST alone good for decent gains? Or what should I expect?

1. No cycle support is needed.
2. No need to change your workout routine.
3. Eat as much clean food as possible. The more garbage you eat, the more bull**** weight you will gain. If you eat clean and have a strict diet, protein 1.5g-2g per pound you weigh, and a good amount of carbs you will put on lean muscle. The more you eat, the more you will gain.

Using Test E, you will not notice anything till about week 3-4. Then it's constant, steady gains. If you workout properly and eat properly you should be able to gain 12-15lbs.

Do Test E for 12 weeks like this:
weeks 1-12 500mg/week split up into 2 doses ie, mon/thurs to keep your levels even.

Week 14-18 Nolva (not sure on Nolva dose, never used)

If you have never ran test before and don't know if your prone to gyno I would possibly have something on hand for that as well.
 
Thanks for the reply.

Stupid question: If you were to eat below maintanence, and be on a cycle like this, "what would likely happen"?

Side note, I plan on watching BP closely. Kinda worries me

You would not get much if anything out of it. You need to supply the muscles the food to get them to grow.
 
Thanks for the reply.

Stupid question: If you were to eat below maintanence, and be on a cycle like this, "what would likely happen"?

Side note, I plan on watching BP closely. Kinda worries me

its so iffy if you eat below maintenance. you'd likely see some fat loss, and over the span some lean gains, but it would be a lot less. The point you are trying to reach is where you maxiimize the lean gains while minimizing fat added. Otherwise its pointless to bother with the criminal risk of testosterone as well as the physical risks.
 
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