First pheraplez cycle- help or critique please

In Hulk

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First pheraplex cycle- help or critique please

So, I'm 23, 6'3, 190 lbs, years of training.

So far I've got planned is pre loading milk thistle@1000mg for 5 days.

Cycle:
Week 1: 15mg ED 1 or 2 scoops Cycle Support ED
Week 2: 22mg ED " "
Week 3: 22mg ED " "
Week 4: 30mg ED " "

post cycle therapy: Nolva 40/30/20/20

Questions...
1) Should I throw in some celery seed or Red Yeast Rice for pre loading?

2) Is there anything that Cycle Support doesn't cover?

3) Is Nolva enough for post cycle therapy? Maybe also a Test Boosting complex?
 
In Hulk said:
So, I'm 23, 6'3, 190 lbs, years of training.

So far I've got planned is pre loading milk thistle@1000mg for 5 days.

Cycle:
Week 1: 15mg ED 1 or 2 scoops Cycle Support ED
Week 2: 22mg ED " "
Week 3: 22mg ED " "
Week 4: 30mg ED " "

post cycle therapy: Nolva 40/30/20/20

Questions...
1) Should I throw in some celery seed or Red Yeast Rice for pre loading?

2) Is there anything that Cycle Support doesn't cover?

3) Is Nolva enough for post cycle therapy? Maybe also a Test Boosting complex?
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Maybe have an AI on hand in case of E issues. Also a test booster couldnt hurt. Two good natty pct products imo are Dermacrine Sustain, and AI's upcoming POST cycle support.
 
What about a product like 6-OXO in addition for PCT?

I'm also considering using clomid instead of nolva.

Anyone recommend some good anti-cortisol products as wlel or would it be necessary?
 
In Hulk said:
What about a product like 6-OXO in addition for post cycle therapy?

I'm also considering using clomid instead of nolva.

Anyone recommend some good anti-cortisol products as wlel or would it be necessary?
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I wouldnt use 6-oxo in pct.

Good cort supps are: Retain 2, Lean Extreme, X-lean, etc...
 
Since I have you Travis, would you also recommend Red Yeast Rice or COQ10 in addition to the milk thistle for pre loading? Do I just run the pre load for 5-7 days?

Thanks for your input, really appreciate it. Goes to everyone in this thread who's contributed
 
In Hulk said:
Since I have you Travis, would you also recommend Red Yeast Rice or COQ10 in addition to the milk thistle for pre loading? Do I just run the pre load for 5-7 days?

Thanks for your input, really appreciate it. Goes to everyone in this thread who's contributed
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Hmmm, I dont know that off the top of my head. I know pre loading milk thistle 2 weeks before is pretty standard. I dont think it will hurt anything to pre-load RYR an COQ10 however.
 
Instead of using Cycle Support could I get by with just NAC and ALA during the cycle? Just as a way to get a feel for PP and note how it affects my body, just kind of as a study for future cycles with PP?

Or is this a stupid and dangerous idea and should just go with Cycle Support?
 
i know you took matthews advice but just to let you know that there is filler in the caps and halfing them pretty much cant be done accurately to say your taking 22mg and 22mg the other.

I like COQ10, its good stuff overall, ive read some studies that suggest RYR can be dangerous...? eh. I would opt for cycle support just for the convienence factor. I do think supplementing support supps for on cycle separately (buying diff bottles) is better but then you #1 pay more #2 take more pills....its your call.
 
pistonpump said:
ive never gone past 30mg but i think ill have to. just picked up the load of PP clones from the Supreme sale.
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Piston, how long do you generally wait in between cycles? I've got some bottles I've been sitting on and just curious how long I should wait before starting another once I finish my first cycle.
 
In Hulk said:
So going straight to 15/30/30/45 for my first cycle wouldn't be overkill?
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no. I was using 30mg for my first cycle and it was good the first week but slowed down, i should have bumped it to 45.
 
i dont really like the big jumps that come with the 15mg caps so i buy 10mg and 15mg caps and mix. Picked up juggernaut Pherabol and CEL P-plex, id reccommend using both. You can play with dosing. First PP cycle i had AX PP 10mg and GL Pheramax 15mg (later to find out it was an ergo clone). Well with the two brands i just picked up they are both really good PP clones not ergo.

to answer your question BoneDaddy, i like to take my month of PCT and follow it with a month to two months of testboosters and just normal stuff. It depends on how harsh the previous cycle was to me imo and also if i have other obligations that would interfere with a cycle, like traveling.
 
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