Good Morning AM! Longtime lurker, first time poster.
TL;DR: I’ve mapped my first PH cycle (1-Andro, Epiandro) below to the best of my research and would greatly appreciate some of the veterans on here to weigh in and provide any insight/a peer review to help me out.
I know you guys get these posts all the time but I appreciate any time you have to share, as this will be my first experience with any hormonal anabolic and I want no surprises. I’ve tried to do my due diligence making use of the plethora of posts out there (thanks for the content btw) and studies/whitepapers/journals.
Personal Info:
29 years old, 5’8” tall, currently 162 lbs on the leaner side (175-180 lbs when bulking), estimated 13-14% body fat (measured with 7 point caliper test). I’ve been lifting since I was 17 years old to rid myself of very lean/thin framed genetics. I got pre-cycle natural bloods done already to have a baseline measurement: Total Test/Free Test is (673 ng/dL) / (15.5 ng/dL), respectively.
I’m comfortable with my workout routine and diet for the most part and will not be affected by COVID gym shutdowns since my basement is my home gym. My goal is a clean and lean bulk with strength increase and hardness. It’d be a dream to add 5-6lbs while maintaining or even dropping a BF % point or two. I’ve been using supplements for as long as I can remember.
Cycle Info:
I’ll be stacking 1-andro (HT 1-testosterone and BSL Choosen1 brands) and Epiando (CEL Stano-plex) together for an 8 week cycle as follows:
1.25g Arachidonic acid, 3g carnitine tartrate, & 15g lecithin standardized to 1200mg of phosphatidic acid preworkout (one of my favorite natty stacks. I have some near-dated X-gels to use up and love the synergy between this plus a primed anabolic environment). My basic staples and ergogenics (creatine hcl, various proteins, EAS’s, beta alanine, etc.) will be used as normal and omegas will be spaced as far away as possible from preworkout. Taurine is on hand for the fabeled back pumps. I’ll be washing my hair with PURA D'OR Original Gold Label Shampoo too (recommended on here) through the whole cycle/PCT just for peace of mind with DHT increase and hair shedding lol.
I’ve got Dermacrine on hand if case the suppression sides get the best of me and the epiandro doesn’t fight the lethargy/libido loss like I hope it does, though I hope to not have to use it. I’d rather have it and not need it than vise versa. IF sides are bad, would 3 pumps 3X a week be enough to combat them? What would be considered an excessive amount to use to the point I should take alternative action? Will the sides actually go away if I’m dosing the Dermacrine properly (how I’ll know it’s working)? Would there be any worthwhile benefit to low dose it through the cycle anyways, sides or no?
PCT:
4 week Nolvadex (tamoxifen) based PCT. No natty test booster included (a concern?). Cortisol and estrogen rebound control.
Everything above is physically on hand, ready to go. I’m a firm believer in using the minimum amount of “anything” to achieve results and expect to have a good amount of the extra’s on hand after this cycle, which I am perfectly fine with (next cycle stock perhaps ). I apologize for the lengthy post and scattered questions, but I legitimately appreciate any feedback, guidance, critique, etc. that you’ll can give.
If anyone see’s its value, I’d be happy to post weekly/bi-monthly updates of the cycle to add to the collection of data on AM. I am planning the cycle start either August 2nd or 9th.
Thank you again for any comments and answers!
TL;DR: I’ve mapped my first PH cycle (1-Andro, Epiandro) below to the best of my research and would greatly appreciate some of the veterans on here to weigh in and provide any insight/a peer review to help me out.
I know you guys get these posts all the time but I appreciate any time you have to share, as this will be my first experience with any hormonal anabolic and I want no surprises. I’ve tried to do my due diligence making use of the plethora of posts out there (thanks for the content btw) and studies/whitepapers/journals.
Personal Info:
29 years old, 5’8” tall, currently 162 lbs on the leaner side (175-180 lbs when bulking), estimated 13-14% body fat (measured with 7 point caliper test). I’ve been lifting since I was 17 years old to rid myself of very lean/thin framed genetics. I got pre-cycle natural bloods done already to have a baseline measurement: Total Test/Free Test is (673 ng/dL) / (15.5 ng/dL), respectively.
I’m comfortable with my workout routine and diet for the most part and will not be affected by COVID gym shutdowns since my basement is my home gym. My goal is a clean and lean bulk with strength increase and hardness. It’d be a dream to add 5-6lbs while maintaining or even dropping a BF % point or two. I’ve been using supplements for as long as I can remember.
Cycle Info:
I’ll be stacking 1-andro (HT 1-testosterone and BSL Choosen1 brands) and Epiando (CEL Stano-plex) together for an 8 week cycle as follows:
- 1-Andro: 285 mg daily, 8 weeks. Dosed evenly through the day, with food. Enough stock to go up to 330 mg daily if needed, but I’d like to see what 285 does first.
- Epiandro: 600 mg daily to start, enough stock to go to 900 mg daily at any point if I feel the need to. Dosed once in the morning and once preworkout.
- SNS Liver Assist XT & Standardized Saw Palmetto through the entire cycle and PCT (I can’t find stock of reasonably priced CEL Cycle support anywhere).
1.25g Arachidonic acid, 3g carnitine tartrate, & 15g lecithin standardized to 1200mg of phosphatidic acid preworkout (one of my favorite natty stacks. I have some near-dated X-gels to use up and love the synergy between this plus a primed anabolic environment). My basic staples and ergogenics (creatine hcl, various proteins, EAS’s, beta alanine, etc.) will be used as normal and omegas will be spaced as far away as possible from preworkout. Taurine is on hand for the fabeled back pumps. I’ll be washing my hair with PURA D'OR Original Gold Label Shampoo too (recommended on here) through the whole cycle/PCT just for peace of mind with DHT increase and hair shedding lol.
I’ve got Dermacrine on hand if case the suppression sides get the best of me and the epiandro doesn’t fight the lethargy/libido loss like I hope it does, though I hope to not have to use it. I’d rather have it and not need it than vise versa. IF sides are bad, would 3 pumps 3X a week be enough to combat them? What would be considered an excessive amount to use to the point I should take alternative action? Will the sides actually go away if I’m dosing the Dermacrine properly (how I’ll know it’s working)? Would there be any worthwhile benefit to low dose it through the cycle anyways, sides or no?
PCT:
4 week Nolvadex (tamoxifen) based PCT. No natty test booster included (a concern?). Cortisol and estrogen rebound control.
- Nolvadex everyday (correct?) dosed by week: 30/20/20/10mg. Any issue taking in the morning?
- SNS Reduce XT or XPG Suppress-C (topical B-Androstenetriol). Guidance here about one vs the other and dosing of each would be appreciated, I’ve read a lot of variability on here and don’t want to over- or under- dose whichever I use. I have never used either.
- I’ve got OL Elim1nate (new Luteolin based one), SNS Inhibit E, and Aromasin on hand for choice of estrogen control. I’ve got all on hand (just in case) but only want to use the minimum of “whatever” to achieve hormonal balance. I was thinking of introducing either the elim1nate or Inhibit E on my 2-3 week of PCT and running two weeks past PCT with a taper off. What do you guys think? I don’t want to crash my E2 as much as I don’t want gyno.
Everything above is physically on hand, ready to go. I’m a firm believer in using the minimum amount of “anything” to achieve results and expect to have a good amount of the extra’s on hand after this cycle, which I am perfectly fine with (next cycle stock perhaps ). I apologize for the lengthy post and scattered questions, but I legitimately appreciate any feedback, guidance, critique, etc. that you’ll can give.
If anyone see’s its value, I’d be happy to post weekly/bi-monthly updates of the cycle to add to the collection of data on AM. I am planning the cycle start either August 2nd or 9th.
Thank you again for any comments and answers!