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First Cycle Ideas

McLovinz

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Whats up guys. I'm gonna do my first cycle but not positive what to run i've done my research and am leaning toward test-propinate and winny
 
you better love needles. I wouldn't go with prop and winny for a first cycle. Winstrol is pretty useless unless you have very low bodyfat. First cycle you shoudl be taking advantage of big first cycle gains and bulking up.

Test and dbol baby
 
McLovinz said:
Whats up guys. I'm gonna do my first cycle but not positive what to run i've done my research and am leaning toward test-propinate and winny
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I'd opt for either test cyp/test enanth for a 1st cycle. Daily injections become very old very quickly...
 
quigs said:
I'd opt for either test cyp/test enanth for a 1st cycle. Daily injections become very old very quickly...
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Yeah but prop is fun in the biceps and tri's. Makes them swell up nicely. lol nothing like people seeing you a week later and saying wtf did you just come from the gym. How did your arms grow that big in week. ha.
 
How about those stats?
Assuming you've trained a good while and are of a decent age I would just keep it simple this 1st go-around. Test E @ 500mg/wk split into 2 pokes/wk. for 10 wks. If you eat right and enough you'l do well w/ that.
 
cranny said:
How about those stats?
Assuming you've trained a good while and are of a decent age I would just keep it simple this 1st go-around. Test E @ 500mg/wk split into 2 pokes/wk. for 10 wks. If you eat right and enough you'l do well w/ that.
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i agree here but we need just a little more info on you.
 
Agreed. With Cranny and piston... test-e 500mg per wk, 250mg on monday, 250mg on thurs. Keep it simple for your first. If your diet is in check as well as your training, you should have great results.
 
he might want to do test cyp @ 500mg instead of enan. Or a test cyp enan combo dosed @ 250mg test cyp 250mg enan. a nice blend like that!! w/ dbol @ 50-60mg I suppose. Or anadrol if you know what you're doing. what are your stats???
 
gotripped said:
he might want to do test cyp @ 500mg instead of enan. Or a test cyp enan combo dosed @ 250mg test cyp 250mg enan. a nice blend like that!! w/ dbol @ 50-60mg I suppose. Or anadrol if you know what you're doing. what are your stats???
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What type of gains could a first time user expect with test@500mg a week? I'm starting my first cycle soon and having the same debate.. not sure if I want to add deca or not.

Also why do injections twice a week? I thought the easter was long enough to allow injections only once a week
 
spoofy said:
What type of gains could a first time user expect with test@500mg a week? I'm starting my first cycle soon and having the same debate.. not sure if I want to add deca or not.

Also why do injections twice a week? I thought the easter was long enough to allow injections only once a week
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For a first cycle, 500mg of test will give some great gains, there really isn't a cookie cutter number of how much weight or strength you will gain as that totally depends on your training and diet. Stick with 1 compund for your first cycle. It does have a longer esther, but you still want to maintain balance levels as much as possible, injecting 500mg once per week (which many people do) will also be more painful than splitting it up. I remember my 1st injection of test-e (250mg in my right cheek) and the next 3 days I could barely sit, I can't imagine what 500 would've felt like
 
would doing a just Test E cycle cause you to bloat up though? I was thinking about running a Test E and winny cycle to keep it dry????? any suggestions????????????????
 
FLSUCIO said:
would doing a just Test E cycle cause you to bloat up though? I was thinking about running a Test E and winny cycle to keep it dry????? any suggestions????????????????
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estrogen will go up so you will notice some bloat..but that will also contribute to gains. If you want to avoid the estrogen you can always add arimidex but that will also limit your gains
 
you will retain some water with test-e... But it won't be bad.. I would still just stick with test only. The cleanliness of your gains will depend more on your diet.
 
freqfly said:
you will retain some water with test-e... But it won't be bad.. I would still just stick with test only. The cleanliness of your gains will depend more on your diet.
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Completely agree. I would think water retention would be minimal w/ 500mg/wk. Be sure and drink plenty of water along w/ a clean diet and you'll be good to go.
 
For My First Cycle I Ran Test Cyp At 600mg A Week For About 10 Weeks... And D Bol At 40 Mg's A day For The First 5 WeekS... And Finished Up With Some Winnie To Harden Up...like It Was Stated Earlier Daily Inj. On A First Run Is Kinda Rough... I Was Very Pleased With The Results... I Went From 180 To 200lbs... And Seem To Be Holding Strong... Dont Think I Will Be Using Orals Much In The Future...
 
im 22 been lifting for 6 years im 5'11'' and weight 270lbs ive been powerlifting for 4 years and now want to lean up
 
winny in an of itself doesnt cause you to lose fat. it is an androgenic muscle hardening drug, which makes an individual already at a lower bf% look more defined. this is why it is designated as a cutting drug, not because it actually causes you to become cut.

its also a TERRIBLE choice for powerlifters. the drug is notorious for making joint and tendon injuries more common.

test prop is fine, but it wont necessarily cause less bloat...if that is what you were shooting for by picking it. it is also a very painful injection.

i would recommend 500mgs week of testosterone enanthate with clen for 3 weeks in the beginning, and 3 weeks to wrap it up. possible winny at the end if you prefer, if you dont mind toning down the training a little.
 
primo is a pre contest drug. bodybuilding contest that is.

its a fine steroid, no doubt about it, but by itself its not going to do much. and i hope you arent looking at big cats profiles because the recommended dosage in that thing is way off target. youre going to need at least 500mgs, more like 750 or a gram if you have any experience with it. its also SUPER expensive.

test is your best bet. its the most basic steroid with the most predictable and controllable side effects....anyone on this board is going to recommend it at 500mgs for 10-12 weeks.

ps. no cycle should be run without some testosterone in it.
 
If you're trying to shred then I'd go with Test Enan 500, Tren Enan 400 for 12 weeks and Anavar at 50 mg weeks 1-6/8. Some will say to sub the Anavar with Winny but that might create some issues for your hairline.
 
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